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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: tomjackson on December 02, 2010, 05:52:42 PM
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Well that was a big waste of £450 Million!
I would have liked the world cup here but at least we don't have to hear about it for the next 8 years!
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Indeed.
I think Putin's comedy timing is classic. To suggest that world leaders boycott the ceremony because of wide spread corruption (or words to that effect) was genius. He said it with no hint of irony either.
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You know, I can see it being in Russia, but Qatar?? If that decision wasn't about money I don't know what was. Football's being reduced to the level of F1 where any geopolitical non-entity can host an event if they've got the money. Are all the stadiums going to be enclosed and air conditioned? Because otherwise playing in Qatar in June/July will be a disaster.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-z2jtUS9-Y&feature=player_embedded#!
The comments on this are tremendous. Racist cretins alarmed about their football getting Islamified.
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You know, I can see it being in Russia, but Qatar?? If that decision wasn't about money I don't know what was. Football's being reduced to the level of F1 where any geopolitical non-entity can host an event if they've got the money. Are all the stadiums going to be enclosed and air conditioned? Because otherwise playing in Qatar in June/July will be a disaster.
Actually Quatar is the one I can understand fully. A very complete and thought-out plan AND the first time in an Arabian country - which was long overdue anyway.
Russia is what I am surprised of.
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Fingers crossed for 2030 when it's next in Europe?
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Well that was a big waste of £450 Million!
I would have liked the world cup here but at least we don't have to hear about it for the next 8 years!
I don't understand....What has cost us half a billion?
Seriously is that what the bid to get the world cup has cost? (and we still didn't get it.....)
Who is picking up that bill for that ?
The Olympics will continue to be a millstone round our necks for years - we could have done without it , and the same is also true for the World cup- you can watch it on the telly anyway.
It's not like our team can actually play judging by this years performance
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Who is picking up that bill for that ?
You and me and all the other tax payers in this country.
We probably should be happy England lost out. ;-)
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Seriously - has bidding for 2018 cost us £450 million?
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You know, I can see it being in Russia, but Qatar?? If that decision wasn't about money I don't know what was. Football's being reduced to the level of F1 where any geopolitical non-entity can host an event if they've got the money. Are all the stadiums going to be enclosed and air conditioned? Because otherwise playing in Qatar in June/July will be a disaster.
Actually Quatar is the one I can understand fully. A very complete and thought-out plan AND the first time in an Arabian country - which was long overdue anyway.
Russia is what I am surprised of.
How is it long overdue exactly? The Arab Countries have only had league football for 30-40 years and are minnows on the international scene. In terms of FIFA's supposed continent based allocation Asia hosted a World Cup in 2002.
While Qatar undoubtedly offered spectacular facilities and are willing to throw huge resources at it, they can't escape the fact that it's a footballing non-entity with temperatures up to 50 degrees. We are talking about a country with a population of less than 1.5 million, a third of those being foreign workers! It's farcical.
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I hope nobody carries the wife there with non-"full-body-covering"-clothes...
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Yeah it's not gonna work for all the female supporters calendars, is it?
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Seriously - has bidding for 2018 cost us £450 million?
Heard it on the radio, thinking about it, it's the cost to stage the bid and lost guaranteed revenue. It's a pointless figure really but shows what was riding on the decision.
Got to stop listening to Talk Sport!
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While Qatar undoubtedly offered spectacular facilities and are willing to throw huge resources at it, they can't escape the fact that it's a footballing non-entity with temperatures up to 50 degrees. We are talking about a country with a population of less than 1.5 million, a third of those being foreign workers! It's farcical.
They said on the news tonight that the county only has two cities, but they'll be building five more by 2022 ("building five more cities"??!!! :o :o ). And nine air-conditioned stadia (posh: Latin :lol: ), which they'll dismantle after the WC and send to Africa.
The whole thing is insane.
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FIFA must have a good environmental policy!
What I though was sad about the South Africa world cup was how little of the revenue stayed locally and the fact there were half full stadiums because local people were priced out.
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FIFA are totally corrupt in my opinion. Money talks. They've always refused to have external organisations take a close look at what they do and how they operate - not sure if it's true or not but apparently on of the reasons they are based in Switzerland is so they can get around lots of disclosure of information regulations. Might have to read up on that.
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The media coverage is all getting a bit hysterical.
On the one hand, we've got Andy Anson, the chief executive of England's bid accusing Fifa voters of lying over who they'd vote for, giving rise to dramatic headlines like "They smiled, shook hands and promised to vote for England... they lied!"
Then we've got stories about Russian bid chief Alexey Sorokin telling the England team on Wednesday his country had enough votes in the bag - and that's taken as proof that it was all "a fix". "Sorokin clearly knew that Russia had enough and he told the English that."
Surely they could've been lying to Alexey as well? And why should Fifa voters be revealing anything about how they're going to be voting anyway? :?
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Seriously - has bidding for 2018 cost us £450 million?
Heard it on the radio, thinking about it, it's the cost to stage the bid and lost guaranteed revenue. It's a pointless figure really but shows what was riding on the decision.
Got to stop listening to Talk Sport!
The actual cost of our bid is meant to be £11 million. I'd pay £450 million if I had it just to not have to listen to 8 years of hype and how we are 'going to win it this time.'
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I'm glad Holland/Belgium didn't get it.
It would have been a financial and legal nightmare. We can't afford it and it's rediculous to change laws for four weeks of football.
Fifa is right at home in Russia. Right in the middle of corruption and mafia. Loads of vodka, roebles, caviar, whores and police escorted armoured limousines.
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yeah...
I'm surprised nobody picked up on this being released as part of the wikileaks thing earlier in the morning...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11893886
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There was a big push in the right-wing UK press to blame the BBC and Panorama in particular for us not getting the bid...
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Except if those stories are true then we never had a chance anyway.
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there was a politician on BBC News yesterday asking for an inquiry into football in general in the UK.
Not so much the bid, although BBC News presenters didn't really understand that, although it was clear (honestly, BBC News presentation is awful).
It would mean an investigation in clubs, how they are run, all kinds of things. could be fun.
I saw one guy say "I have failed to see any explanation as to how the timing of the panorama story was in the public interest...". I guess the key phrase is 'timing of', because I think most fans of football who'd like to see a world cup here would probably be interested in allegations of corruption within FIFA.
I've also heard people blame Birmingham fans for rioting, but eastern European leagues have notoriously violent fans don't they?
I'm not that bothered. It just seems like another thing that (to add to the many other things) is corrupt.
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I think Graham Taylor said it best "The only surprise is that people are surprised."
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everyone is corrupt to some extent, it's just part of the human condition and in relation to their surroundings
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everyone is corrupt to some extent, it's just part of the human condition and in relation to their surroundings
Spoken like a true misanthrope. you and me both, brother.
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there was a politician on BBC News yesterday asking for an inquiry into football in general in the UK.
Not so much the bid, although BBC News presenters didn't really understand that, although it was clear (honestly, BBC News presentation is awful).
It would mean an investigation in clubs, how they are run, all kinds of things. could be fun.
I saw one guy say "I have failed to see any explanation as to how the timing of the panorama story was in the public interest...". I guess the key phrase is 'timing of', because I think most fans of football who'd like to see a world cup here would probably be interested in allegations of corruption within FIFA.
I've also heard people blame Birmingham fans for rioting, but eastern European leagues have notoriously violent fans don't they?
I'm not that bothered. It just seems like another thing that (to add to the many other things) is corrupt.
There are a few Polish clubs which areextremely violent. Proper mental bastrds and nothing like muppett films like the Football Factory.
Paddy
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parts of former Yugoslavia has some pretty crazy fellas too.
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Well given that we got the Olympics and then immediately started whinging about how much it costs and how all the benefits are going to London (the austerity games again) - I can't see that the English deserve the World cup.
However, that doesn't detract from the fact that FIFA act like a international criminal organisation from some James Bond film - Sepp Blatter even sounds and looks like a Bond uber-villain. The worst example to me was telling bidding countries they had to pass laws giving tax and legal concession (especially on restrictions of employment rights) to FIFA and its sponsors and that this had to be kept secret, or it would affect that country's bid - all credit to the Netherlands for telling FIFA to spin on a pole and perhaps sacrificing their bid.
Maybe national FAs should boycott FIFA until it becomes transparent - especially in its criteria for selecting countries - after all the £X million spent could have been used to good effect providing sporting facilities at home rather than lining the pockets of scum.
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there was a politician on BBC News yesterday asking for an inquiry into football in general in the UK.
Not so much the bid, although BBC News presenters didn't really understand that, although it was clear (honestly, BBC News presentation is awful).
It would mean an investigation in clubs, how they are run, all kinds of things. could be fun.
I saw one guy say "I have failed to see any explanation as to how the timing of the panorama story was in the public interest...". I guess the key phrase is 'timing of', because I think most fans of football who'd like to see a world cup here would probably be interested in allegations of corruption within FIFA.
I've also heard people blame Birmingham fans for rioting, but eastern European leagues have notoriously violent fans don't they?
I'm not that bothered. It just seems like another thing that (to add to the many other things) is corrupt.
There are a few Polish clubs which areextremely violent. Proper mental bastrds and nothing like muppett films like the Football Factory.
Paddy
And they've sent it to Russia where black players routinely have bananas thrown at them.
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If Harry Redknapp had been involved in our bid I think we would have got it.
It's a shame that FIFA is (apparently) so corrupt. I'd love to have a job in the football industry but don't think I would last very long at The FA, UEFA or FIFA. All of them need a major overhaul to get the institutionalised corruption out of the game.
The stuff about tax concessions for FIFA during the world cup has been going on for a while and is shocking. That's probably not even the tip of the iceberg.