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Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: The Norwegian Guy on December 15, 2010, 04:17:51 AM

Title: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: The Norwegian Guy on December 15, 2010, 04:17:51 AM

1 master volume
1 master tone
5 way switch
 - 1 neck (singlecoil)
 - 2 neck (singlecoil) +middle (singlecoil)
 - 3 middle (singlecoil)
 - 4 middle (singlecoil) + bridge (humbucker)
 - 5 bridge (humbucker)

dpdt switch to split the humbucker.

Could someone please draw me a wiring diagram? I havent been able to find any, and I've tried search engines.

thanks


Andreas M

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: Frank on December 15, 2010, 05:17:15 AM

Deymour Suncan's got this pretty much covered

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/

edit: http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/wiring-diagrams/schematics.php?schematic=1h_2s_1v_1t_5w_pp

... looks like what you need, shows a push/pull pot on the volume knob so just apply that to the DPDT switch

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: Frank on December 15, 2010, 05:27:37 AM

also, bookmark this link! it'll save you a lot of grief when installing replacement pickups

http://www.seymourduncan.com/support/schematics/schematics.php?schematic=color_codes

edit: although be aware that it may also cause you even more grief as some manufacturers (naming no names, Fender) don't always stick to those colours

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: Andrew W on December 15, 2010, 12:06:40 PM

The only thing with the Seymour Duncan diagram, unless I'm reading it wrong, and all the others I found is that forces you to compromise on the ratings of the pots and caps you use.  My current build is HSS too and in the end I just changed my design so I can use 500K pots for the humbucker and 250K ones for the single coils (4 knobs a la Les Paul).  All the combined schematics I've seen either use a compromise pot value (say 300K) or just use 250K throughout which doesn't seem like the best plan tonally to me.  If anyone has a killer schematic that solves this I'd be all ears though.

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: Frank on December 15, 2010, 09:32:39 PM

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Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: guitarmv on December 19, 2010, 06:51:48 PM

Oh my gosh, Frank, that is funny AND helpful. You must be proud.... :roll:

Anyway, I found this thread because I have the same question, got some Bare Knuckles HSS (Geoff/MM) to wire in, and was wondering about this:

Since I don't even usually bother with a tone pot, why not use one of the pot locations for the HB at 500k, and the other for 250k for the two SC's (with one tone pot for all)?

I am going to continue my search for this type of solution, will hopefully find a pertinent answer here...

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: JacksonRR on December 21, 2010, 10:31:16 PM

Are you looking for one master volume because of the holes you already have in place? Use a dual concentric and a 5 way Super switch. 250 for your singles and a 500 for your humbucker. http://www.guitarelectronics.com/product/CPCS25/CTS-Stacked-Dual-Concentric-Audio-Guitar-Pot-250K500K.html
and
http://www.allparts.com/Fender-5-Way-Super-Switch-p/099-2251-000.htm?click=19167

And wired to the switch terminals as follows:


1 - neck p/u
2 - neck p/u
3 - mid p/u
4 - bridge p/u
5 -
0 - 250k volume pot

1 -
2 - mid p/u
3 -
4 - mid p/u
5 -
0 - 250k volume pot

1 -
2 -
3 -
4 -
5 - bridge p/u
0 - 500k volume pot

1 - from 250k pot
2 - from 250k pot
3 - from 250k pot
4 - from 250k pot
5 - from 500k pot
0 - to master tone and output jack

Title: Re: Need some help with a HSS diagram.
Post by: JacksonRR on December 21, 2010, 10:34:32 PM

And a 250K push pull pot for the tone/hum splitter. Sorry forgot.