Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: AndyR on December 26, 2010, 05:38:05 PM
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I know a lot of you metal guys are used to tunings other than EADGBE, but aside from "Hawaiian" (DGDGBD) for slide, I've always found alternate tunings something of a trial :lol:.
But I've been messing with the folkie DADGAD for a couple of months so that I could finally play a song I wrote back in 1994.
It took me three days to record (over half of which was vocals :roll:), but here it is on SoundClick: Elizabeth's Room (http://soundclick.com/share.cfm?id=10041971)
The guitars are a Freshman FA300D. Everything was recorded with a Rodes NT1000 condensor mic.
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that sounds pretty good - i like
i have been messing with c6th for lapsteel the last few weeks - but i think i prefer open E or D
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Awesome!
Being a big fan of the late Davey Graham I used to play acoustic in DADGAD pretty much exclusively when I practiced regularly and I really miss it - After reading your post, I tried to play 'She moved through the Fair', the original DADGAD tune that Graham recorded after he worked out the tuning in Algeria, but I could hardly manage it - shame really as I had it nailed to a 'play in front of others' level a few years ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SwVsLcawHwQ
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Really cool Andy!
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There's a good acoustic song from Chrono Trigger I think, that's the only time I've messed with a weird tuning. If it even is that tuning actually.
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Nice job Andy. That is a great tuning and I really ought to follow your example and explore a bit. Reminds me( your recording) of the early Rod Stewart albums ( when he was still good) and I mean that in a good way (for those who only know Roderick's "Do Ya think I'm Sexy" era perambulations).
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Thanks folks :D
I've just spent the last X hours struggling with a remaster. The one you've all heard so far was a "remaster", but it lacked the warmth of the original (in an attempt to bring out the backing vocals a bit better).
I've just replaced it with another that brings back some of the original's warmth but has a bit more top end... Out of the countless attempts so far, it's my favourite.
I'm gonna stop messing with it now. Partly because I'm waiting for an EDB (Electric Double Bass) that I've got on order. When I've learnt how to play the thing I might add a double-bass part and remix anyway :lol:
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Nice work Andy. Some nice playing and good vocals to go with it.
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I love DADGAD :). Used to use it a lot on my 12 string, gave it a great sound, might have to experiment with this again tonight!
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EADGBE is perfectly fine for metal... if you add a 7th string ;)
while we're on about weird tuning, I found a tuning the other day that's basically downtune a 6, then tune the 6th as if it was a 7th
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Really cool song Andy! makes me think of Greg Lake's stuff.
I like messing about with DADGAD and CGCFGC also tried GCGCFGC on my 7 String which was cool
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I have been playing around with DADF#AD on the tele of late, you can probably guess the band?
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Er... actually I'm not sure... Elmore James, early Fleetwood Mac?... Black Crowes... hmmm... it would be The Faces if it was me :D
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I've been on a bit of a Keef kick of late so it's been swinging between DADGAD & DADF#AD.
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I'm very impressed with your song Andy. My only stumblings into DADGAD territory was when I tried to learn this song. Unfortunately I ran out of steam. Bert Jansch recorded it 1965. I suspect Mr Page may have listened to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkX7Q2J7k48
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I love DADGAD. Most of my bands songs are in drop D, so opening up the bottom two strings to A and D gives a super lush sound when all 6 strings are played.
Play an octave chord at the 9th fret, the F# on the 5th string, and let the open low D, A and high D ring out. Tidy.
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I've been attempting to work through one of Tony McManus' fingerstyle guitar DVDs
mainly does DADGAD and a few very strange tunings like DAAEAE, CGCGCD and CGDGCD for imitating bagpipes.
He's amazing!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLVsrlObxO8&feature=related
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Not a huge fan if I'm honest, but back when I was trying my hand at some Andy McKee acoustic stuff I spent some time in ECDGAD which is great. Nothing ever seems to sound wrong...
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I like your song, Andy, but I struggle with alternative tunings. Standard tuning is hard enough for me to get my megre brain around...
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choucas09 no wonder you struggled to play it in DADGAD - Jansch plays Blackwaterside in simple drop D capo'ed at the second threat. You can get the tab in Stephan Grossman's British Fingerstyle Guitar from Mel Bay.
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Elliot, just checked and you speak the truth. However the tab I had at the time was for DADGAD. It seemed to work as such, but I was too lazy to see it through.
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I like your song, Andy, but I struggle with alternative tunings. Standard tuning is hard enough for me to get my megre brain around...
i got a copy of this ages ago
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alternate-Tunings-Compact-Reference-Library/dp/0825612519/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293816534&sr=8-2
all it really does is tell you how to retune the guitar and gives some useful chords and scales for each tuning - it really easy to start messing with them. just playing a few simple chords sounds refreshingly different
nice pdf here too which is much more in depth than that book
http://www.guitargearheads.com/content/tools/alttunings/alltunings.pdf
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Choucas I should say that Jimmy Page plays Black Mountainside (he rip off of Jansch's Black Waterside) in DADGAD - Apparently he asked Al Stewart how Jansch played it at a session and Stewart had worked it out in DADGAD (believing that's how Jansch played it) - so Stewart taught it to Plaige, who then claimed the arrangement as his own by giving it a slightly different name!
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I like your song, Andy, but I struggle with alternative tunings. Standard tuning is hard enough for me to get my megre brain around...
i got a copy of this ages ago
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Alternate-Tunings-Compact-Reference-Library/dp/0825612519/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1293816534&sr=8-2
all it really does is tell you how to retune the guitar and gives some useful chords and scales for each tuning - it really easy to start messing with them. just playing a few simple chords sounds refreshingly different
nice pdf here too which is much more in depth than that book
http://www.guitargearheads.com/content/tools/alttunings/alltunings.pdf
Good stuff, Wez - I'll have a read.
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Nice link Wes, that will give me some interesting reading for next year.
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i found it earlier whilst looking for that book. It has a mandoguitar tuning (for normal guitar)... i am going to have to see if that works on the mandoguitar i just made (in standard tuning) since it wont be picked up for another few months (and i may as well play)
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My acoustic guitar spends most of its time in DADGAD. If you're looking for another player who uses the tuning the amazing Pierre Bensusan is really worth a listen.