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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: nickcoumbe on January 01, 2011, 06:36:23 PM

Title: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on January 01, 2011, 06:36:23 PM
Ok,

I am in the process of finishing a custom build and need some help with pickups.

The guitar is a solid one piece walnut Ibanez RG shape with a bolt on maple/rosewood neck. The neck may change to ebony/maple in the near future. Tunomatic bridge and sperzels with ebanol non locking nut will handle the tuning etc.

It is an H-S configuration with volume, no tone and a 2 position (push-push) switch to give a choice of neck or bridge  pickup only.

I like a pickup with a tight bottom end, and nice open harmonics. I am looking to play blues and rock, with a bit of metal.

I have pretty much decided on a Holy Diver for the bridge. What single coil works well in the neck with those and is good for soloing without becoming too shrill.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Nolly on January 01, 2011, 06:40:16 PM
Hi!
Personally, I enjoy pairing a Trilogy Suite neck with the Holy Diver bridge - should ensure a fluid lead tone without any shrillness.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on January 02, 2011, 12:58:04 AM
Hi!
Personally, I enjoy pairing a Trilogy Suite neck with the Holy Diver bridge - should ensure a fluid lead tone without any shrillness.

I have to admit that I already have a trilogy suite and I am not all that keen on it for this guitar. Principally because of the volume.

I have Sultans in another axe which I probably wouldn't want to use for this project.

Any thoughts on Mother's Milk?
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Nolly on January 02, 2011, 01:16:41 AM
Ah, interesting to hear.
The Mother's Milks give a very traditional strat tone - hollow and bright, with a percussive low end response. If you're after that kind of sound they are hard to beat, though arguably the Irish Tour would provide a similar voicing with more output that give a closer match to the Holy Diver in the bridge.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on January 02, 2011, 01:38:17 AM
Ah, interesting to hear.
The Mother's Milks give a very traditional strat tone - hollow and bright, with a percussive low end response. If you're after that kind of sound they are hard to beat, though arguably the Irish Tour would provide a similar voicing with more output that give a closer match to the Holy Diver in the bridge.

Funnily enough I am just revisiting the clips thread and the ourIrish T and Sultans sound great. Irish Tour has it at the moment, but I am concerned that it will be a bit too bright.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Nolly on January 02, 2011, 09:20:38 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure I'd describe the Irish Tours as much brighter than Sultans, and even so with the fuller bass and mid they definitely put out a thicker sound.
I'm assuming you will be using a 500kΩ pot in the guitar?
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on January 02, 2011, 11:07:02 AM
Hmm, I'm not sure I'd describe the Irish Tours as much brighter than Sultans, and even so with the fuller bass and mid they definitely put out a thicker sound.
I'm assuming you will be using a 500kΩ pot in the guitar?

Yep, 500K push-push with a skull knob :)

I think I'll go with the Irish Tours. I am really impressed by the sound clips and BKP's always seem to translate well from demos to the actual guitar. What you hear is what you get.

As I have two of the other options in other guitars I can always swao around if I don't like.

Thanks for all the advice, and here is a picture as of the progress last night.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Madsakre on January 02, 2011, 11:47:29 AM
Go sinner and ceramic warpig. take no prisoners ;D
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on January 03, 2011, 08:00:17 PM
Go sinner and ceramic warpig. take no prisoners ;D

Sorry, I thought about it and chickened out and went with my original line up of the Irish Tour/Holy Diver.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Telerocker on January 05, 2011, 01:11:30 AM
You will love the IT-neck and it is not thin or too bright, at least not in my customstrat. It does fluid leads very well.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on February 26, 2011, 09:33:00 PM
Well it is finished.

Pics here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52686097@N08/5421326570/in/set-72157625598908129/

To be honest I haven't had a chance to give it a full work out, but the initial signs are positive.
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: Telerocker on February 27, 2011, 03:44:04 PM
Congrats! Hope you like the combi HD/IT
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: FernandoDuarte on February 27, 2011, 10:43:35 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Pickups for Walnut Bodied Ibanez RG Hardtail.
Post by: nickcoumbe on July 08, 2011, 12:56:32 AM
Well,

It has been a while since I installed the pickups,  and I have some thoughts:

Holy Diver (Bridge) - Excellent bridge pickup. Reasonably tight and melodic when over driven and cleans up well. For a guitar with focused highs this pickup works very well. This guitar is thin bodied and I feel the HD conveys enough of the natural bite of the wood without becoming too nasal. I might try it in padauk next.

Cleans up well. TBH all Bare Knuckles seem to do that, which is what makes them great.

Some Clips:

HD Clean
http://www.youtube.com/user/nickcoumbe#p/u/6/tRZgS_DX3gw

HD Dirty
http://www.youtube.com/user/nickcoumbe#p/u/4/tbcFUKpNfgc

Irish Tour (Neck)

To be honest, I fond it difficult to assess this pickup as the wood is probably slightly too thin sounding to show it off well. I think it is OK when over driven but really comes into it's own with the volume rolled back. In a bright guitar it still manages to give a glassy, almost bell-like shimmer without becoming too shrill. I like it a lot in that regard.

Again with the clips

IT Dirty
http://www.youtube.com/user/nickcoumbe#p/u/5/ydsBvGl6HIY

IT Clean
http://www.youtube.com/user/nickcoumbe#p/u/7/hIi60kZZa0I