Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Tech => Topic started by: Jazz Rock on January 07, 2011, 10:57:01 AM
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Hi Guys,
Happy new year to all!
Long time no speak! Hopefully, I'll manage this year to be more tenacious with my guitar playing, which without doubt will get me hanging around more often.
So to start the year I thought I'll post this query that has been rambling in my head for a while now:
I have a Laney LC15R and I am looking for a new speaker.
The amp was shipped with a Celestion Tube 10 speaker which had a nice enough raw sound, quite cool to noodle about in a vintage hard rock style (think ZZ top, early Aerosmith), but it wasn't very focused and the sound turned to mush pretty quickly when you turned up the gain dial. Pretty useless for recording.
So I replaced it with G10 Vintage, which somehow retained the raw quality while improving on the focus and giving the amp some extra humpf in the bass department, which was welcome to play more modern hard rock stuff (Slash and Alice in Chains).
Now the trick is I am playing more and more of my own stuff, and while I still enjoy playing a bit of the above, I feel that, to develop my own style, I would need a more vintage sound... something that would get me closer to a Cream sound. I know I won't get very close with my amp, and I don't want THE Cream sound, I am just looking for a speaker that would give me a bit more clarity. I think that is what I am missing at the moment.
It is a bit different from Cream, but one thing that annoys me is that I can't get my tele to sound like Bruce Springsteen's (even though I have the best pickups for this :) or Frank Black's. I think more clarity and "sparklyness" is what I need.
Any idea which way I should be looking?
Cheers :)
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try a Tayden
http://www.taydenspeakers.co.uk/
british made and helpful guys. I've had a go on a couple of these I think. not sure which ones, but they sound great.
probably worth dropping an email to.
At some point I might get some of their product for myself.
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The Celestion G10 Vintage is based on the Vintage 30, quite a modern sounding speaker. Have a look at their G10 Greenback too.
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Greenback or Alnico Gold is the way to go...
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Thanks guys.
The Tayden true brit seems quite cool. I like the idea that it is home made and yet still less expensive then the greenback it is based on, which, while designed in the UK is I believe made oversea.
Before posting this thread, I was wondering about the Jensen speakers. They do recommend it for LC15s at Watford Valves, but I heard on another forum that Jensens were not made the way they used to be. So I was not too sure. The fact that nobody mentioned them spontaneously is maybe tellling. Anybody had experience with jensen in a small combo though?
It is funny, when I bought the G10 Vintage, I wanted a Greenback but they were not available at the time. Now, from what you guys are saying, I probably should have waited for the Greenback. Interesting.
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JR i know very little of speakers but if your after a springsteen ish sound i'll bet an american amp(fender) is what you
need.i've never used a laney but have had several fenders and they still sparkle as well as anything available.
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I think it's purely a marketing term.
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Tonetubby?
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Those Tayden speakers seem interesting, like what Warehouse Guitar Speakers are doing in the United States.
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JR i know very little of speakers but if your after a springsteen ish sound i'll bet an american amp(fender) is what you
need.i've never used a laney but have had several fenders and they still sparkle as well as anything available.
Hey Gordiji,
A new amp is not an option. I am not trying to nail a particular sound, just to get my amp closer to a sound territory.
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Between Cream and Springsteen is a difficult one - IMO Springsteen is the antithesis of the British/Celestion based sound, so you need an American style speaker:
For Cream i'd say G10 Greenback but for Springsteen its gotta be a Eminence Copperhead or a Weber 10A150 (Alnico) 10F150 (Ceramic) - or even the 10F150T, which the tele verson.
Maybe the hotter Eminence Rajun Cajun would be a good compromise?