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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: braintheory on January 18, 2011, 07:46:11 PM

Title: Best attenuator
Post by: braintheory on January 18, 2011, 07:46:11 PM
What do you guys think is the best attenuator?  I've been doing research about this and the Bad Cat Leash, Aracom, and Rivera Rock Crusher look promising so far.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: Telerocker on January 18, 2011, 08:18:34 PM
Look at this one too. Not cheap, but you asked for the best.

http://www.ultimateattenuator.com/ (http://www.ultimateattenuator.com/)

The Ultimate Attenuator, a bold name and a bold statement, something that until you play with one you won't know. We call it the Ultimate Attenuator because it is, pure and simple. If you have an old great sounding amp that just has one problem: it's to loud and will get you expelled from your home by taging neighbours.....then read on! most known attenuators are based on the same old, outdated engineering concept: inaccurate volume control, destructive tone circuitry, and a lot of frustration. If you're like us you want a simple solution that gives you what you want when you want it. Your tone at any level, simple setup, and rock solid stability. No more stepped levels or presets, no more tone dulling effects of passive designs, and no more decrease in frequency response. With the Ultimate Attenuator you get your tone from bedroom to concert levels. Welcome to the Ultimate Attenuator, the most transparent and safest tube amplifier attenuator on the market in the world. Guaranteed
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: Elliot on January 18, 2011, 08:33:47 PM
I have an Ultimate Attenuator and I can say it is bloody good!
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: shobet on January 18, 2011, 09:11:12 PM
I think our friend philx uses one of them live. His lead tone is the amp flat out whilst his rhythm tone is the atenuator at about 70%.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: braintheory on January 18, 2011, 11:57:22 PM
I heard mixed things about the ultimate attenuator.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: fr33man1 on January 19, 2011, 12:22:57 AM
http://www.nos.kingeshop.com/dB--Killer-MK2-100--200-watts-peak-cbpaaabOa.asp

more hand made but safe and handmade in France.

I dunno if he ships abroad but this thing is pretty enhanced here. The coolest feature is that it has a fan, its not dangerous even with a 100w tube amp and its designed only to make you feel less volume without sound quality loss.

The guy makes also cabs, full tube handmade heads and is pretty knowledgeable and he studied almost everything on the market to launch his own attenuator.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: Dmoney on January 19, 2011, 12:44:18 AM
The Hotplate has a fan and you can use it with 100watt heads.
It doesn't sound great at larger levels of attenuation though.

I don't think there is any real way to get that loud amp character at low volumes. Its always going to be different in some way depending on how you do it, what head you have, how much attenuation you use and at what level you set you amp, and how much sound your cab and/or speakers add to your sound. The question is how much you're willing to compromise.

WeberVST make one with a switchable load, so you can use different impedance combinations with the same attenuator. It also has some kind of tone stack.
Faustine Phantom is meant to be good too.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: MrBump on January 19, 2011, 08:24:28 AM
I had a Weber Mass 150, and it was fine.

Relatively cheap too.

Mark.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: blue on January 19, 2011, 01:01:41 PM
i've got the Weber too, does a perfectly good job, and considerably more affordable than the competition.  like the others, with extreme attenuation the tone deteriorates, but i think that's largely because the speaker isn't working so hard anymore.

as with most guitar related things, there's a lot of snake oil and bullsheet involved when these come up.  as far as i can tell, all the attenuator's do a similar job.  whether or not you like the end result of one or another is mostly down to personal taste.  just like with the amp's they're plugged in to :)
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: rossdavidneilson on April 29, 2011, 06:31:34 PM
I'm selling a Rockcrusher on gumtree if you're after one of the higher end ones - http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/rivera-rockcrusher-power-attenuator/78694643.   Easily beats THD, but I haven't tried weber or ultimate attenuator though. 
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: _tom_ on April 29, 2011, 06:46:29 PM
I've tried the THD Hotplate and Weber MiniMass. Out of the two, the Hotplate was easily the best - works well down to about -8dB I think and then it starts to sound a bit mushy.
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: HTH AMPS on April 30, 2011, 01:30:16 AM
The only one I've heard that doesn't seem to colour the tone is the Faustine one - checkout Pete Thorn's demos of it on Youtube.

Downside is they're around US$800.00
Title: Re: Best attenuator
Post by: Denim n Leather on April 30, 2011, 01:54:23 AM
Why do you want to use an attenuator? There are other ways to getting a good, low volume tone, without crushing it with an attenuator.