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Title: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: keith on February 13, 2011, 01:07:42 PM
Me being an old school rocker brought up on ya Free's,Zeppelin's etc it seems im way behind the terminology if that's the right word so if someone could tell me what Djent is I would be most grateful. I imagine it is a type of music? Appeals to the younger masses or any old boys who may know of this
muchas gracias
keith
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Transcend on February 13, 2011, 01:12:26 PM
If im correct it is actually a term to describe the palm muting sound that is used in a lot of modern metal but it seems to have expanded into being a genre

look up icarus lives on youtube for a basic example (and the most listenable in my opinion)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Davey on February 13, 2011, 02:01:00 PM
pretty much what tony says

it was a word used to describe a certain type of tone (most notably meshuggah) and then it turned into a genre
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 13, 2011, 02:53:37 PM
Aye, you want to prevent yourself from referring to Djent as a "genre" or even a sub-genre of metal, as a lot of people make that fatal mistake, heh. "Djent" is just the sound of a particular guitar tone associated with newer prog / tech / math metal bands like Periphery, Tesseract, Meshuggah, Chimp Spanner and Animals as Leaders.
I really hope it doesn't turn into a name for a genre itself, as I have heard such a diverse array of bands using that sound and from one end of the spectrum to the other, they are all so drastically different from each other that using that term to describe them would get really confusing. I prefer to use the term "prog metal in the vein of Periphery / Meshuggah / Chimp Spanner" (delete as appropriate)

YouTube any of the above bands, or type Djent into Last.FM to get a good idea of the kind of bands that use this sound. I for one absolutely LOVE it, it's just such a meaty, organic kind of tone....which is strange as a lot of these bands use amp modelers to achieve it, heh. A lot of factors go into creating that ultimate Djent tone, I think. Like the construction of the guitars, the woods and the scale length. If you can get the guitar to do most of the work for you in those areas, then dialling in a decent tone on the amp and actually making the sound becomes a lot easier.

Our very own Nolly would be a good person to advise on how to get a good Djent sound, he is very much into the scene and his own band Red Seas Fire use it really, really well!
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: JDC on February 13, 2011, 06:18:09 PM
this is exactly how the djent tone sounds, big power chord downtuned with lots of upper mids http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVP48x4U7QE

djent djent djent djent
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 13, 2011, 06:21:38 PM
This one from Meshuggah would be a good example too, you can really hear the tone from the single notes quite clearly.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7OFjw1cQCA
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: JDC on February 13, 2011, 06:26:16 PM
I don't think modern meshuggah is that djenty, it doesn't make me go "djent djent djent djent" out loud ;)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Jonny on February 13, 2011, 07:01:42 PM
JDC, that video/example is epic!
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: keith on February 13, 2011, 07:54:12 PM
Thanks for the replies chaps. Doesnt float my boat but sure is powerful stuff. Oh my I must be gettin old
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: chrisola on February 13, 2011, 09:23:19 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqT1aA4Q88


this one is brilliant -- such a great guitar player!
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: keith on February 13, 2011, 09:34:11 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihqT1aA4Q88


this one is brilliant -- such a great guitar player!

feck me what a player still not my cup of tea but another thig is the way this guy dresses you would think he would be into  Usher and that type of cr@p
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 13, 2011, 10:59:42 PM
Tosin is quite into his Jazz (as you can probably hear) so I think his dress sense stems from that kind of style.  :wink:

But just goes to show, the way a person dresses shouldn't dictate what kind of music they are into.  :D
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Modular1 on February 13, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
But just goes to show, the way a person dresses shouldn't dictate what kind of music they are into.  :D
Can you spot the secret cool cat jazz master in the picture below.
(http://i150.photobucket.com/albums/s112/metalmilitia306/deathmetalmall.jpg)
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Modular1 on February 13, 2011, 11:39:15 PM
As an aside, i always think the Djent sound could be described as sounding like a sampled instrument than a guitar. It certainly has that kind of timbre. I certainly wouldn't describe it as organic. More synthesized and sterile to my ear. Math metal leaves me a bit cold i suppose. It sounds like music made on a computer which i suppose is the point.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: keith on February 14, 2011, 12:04:11 AM
Tosin is quite into his Jazz (as you can probably hear) so I think his dress sense stems from that kind of style.  :wink:

But just goes to show, the way a person dresses shouldn't dictate what kind of music they are into.  :D

True my friend cant judge a book and all that lark. Another thing I probably couldnt get my hand around the neck on that guitar he is playing
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 14, 2011, 05:56:36 PM
Just found a great video actually, which pretty much sums it up. be sure to watch it in highest res because the sound quality increases that way:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM7MiuLo25I&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: JDC on February 14, 2011, 06:34:17 PM
It's close but half of the "djent" in that video is low single open string notes which by the original definition isn't djent, if it ain't a palm muted power chord of preferably 4 strings with lots of upper mids, then to me it isn't djent.

But then the term is applied to pretty much any band with anything to do with either Meshuggah or 8 string guitars so I can see why it's incorrectly used.
Title: Re: Can Anyone Enlighten Me
Post by: Nadz1lla on February 14, 2011, 07:09:03 PM
I dunno, I always thought it described that and also that kind of quacky-twangy sound that can be made on the single string stuff too. If not then at least the single string sound is synonymous with the original meaning, it's very rare you get one sound and not the other in any given song.