Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: viz0id on March 08, 2011, 09:37:50 AM
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Hello!
I'm planning on ordering a Setius GTM 6 from Mayones.
http://www.mayones.com/en/katalog/setius/setius_gtm (http://www.mayones.com/en/katalog/setius/setius_gtm)
As you can see its a Mahogny Body guitar with rosewood fretboard and Bolt-on neck.
I'm going to use it for mostly hot rodded 80's sound, and upwards towards Thrash metal.
I'm struggeling to decide what pickups to put in it. I have a calibrated set of Painkillers in my other guitar, but i think it will be too "in your face" as we have moved away from the more heavy metal stuff.
The guitar will be mostly used for riffing and some leadtones.
My question is, would a Cold Sweat neck / Nailbomb bridge combo or calibrated Holy Diver set work?
Edit: I play through a Diamond Phantom 100w head and ENGL 412 VS cab
Would really like som replies on this one,
thanks in advance!
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I have a Setius right next to me, and find it to be a very dark guitar - I'd recommend trying a brighter and leaner pickup such as the Rebel Yell in the bridge for a balanced sound that retains the guitar's natural deep timbre. The Rebel Yell is capable of everything from sweet vintage tones to all-out metal brutality with it's combination of classic open midrange voicing, lean and tight low end and enough output for any application.
A Cold Sweat would certainly work well in the neck for a modern vibe, though I personally find the VHII neck to be an even more versatile choice that matches up with the Rebel Yell bridge very nicely.
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I have a Setius right next to me, and find it to be a very dark guitar - I'd recommend trying a brighter and leaner pickup such as the Rebel Yell in the bridge for a balanced sound that retains the guitar's natural deep timbre. The Rebel Yell is capable of everything from sweet vintage tones to all-out metal brutality with it's combination of classic open midrange voicing, lean and tight low end and enough output for any application.
A Cold Sweat would certainly work well in the neck for a modern vibe, though I personally find the VHII neck to be an even more versatile choice that matches up with the Rebel Yell bridge very nicely.
Thanks for the response!
Rebel yell seems nice aswell. But VHII wouldn't just be good for more vintage stuff? Is it versitile up towards more metalish stuff aswell?
I also want pickups that can stand out in the mix, I dont want to be just some background noise while playing with a band.
Also, may i ask what pups you have in your setius?
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Yes, I can confirm the VHII is more than capable of metal. I play in a modern progressive metal band and use the Rebel Yell/VHII combination in several of my guitars, in both 6- and 7- string formats. I find them to be extremely good at cutting through both live and recorded mixes.
The Setius doesn't belong to me, it's fitted with DiMarzio Evolutions (which I'm not a fan of at all!)
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Yes, I can confirm the VHII is more than capable of metal. I play in a modern progressive metal band and use the Rebel Yell/VHII combination in several of my guitars, in both 6- and 7- string formats. I find them to be extremely good at cutting through both live and recorded mixes.
The Setius doesn't belong to me, it's fitted with DiMarzio Evolutions (which I'm not a fan of at all!)
I agree, i dont want either SD's or DiMarzio's ... (or EMG's for that matter) that they normally deliver the guitar with.
The dealer that im talking with here in Norway, also deals BKP's so he just orders them and BKP sends the pups to Mayones.
But im gonna seriously consider the rebel yell and VHII combo. Thanks a bunch!
Also as a sidequestion: What guitars do you have the combo in?
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Sure, no problem!
I use the Rebel Yell/VHII combination in a Blackmachine B2:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/188432_739388888815_223405388_14406315_3057384_n.jpg)
and a Dæmoness 7-string custom:
(http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/199140_739388853885_223405388_14406314_7532093_n.jpg)
I also have a VHII neck (paired with a Black Dog bridge) in a Bernie Rico Jr 7-string:
(http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/184304_739389302985_223405388_14406336_8183759_n.jpg)
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Wow thats some nice axes.
What kind of pickup covers are those? Those are not original BKP ones?
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Yep, they are the "black, no polepiece holes" covers that BKP do!
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Those black ones look freaking awesome. Does it affect the sound in any way not having the poles "in the open" like that?
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Arguably yes, but we are talking about a very minor difference that would require a controlled direct comparison test to yield audible results that could be attributed solely to the covers... In practise, I wouldn't worry about it!
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Arguably yes, but we are talking about a very minor difference that would require a controlled direct comparison test to yield audible results that could be attributed solely to the covers... In practise, I wouldn't worry about it!
Ok great!
But over to a more practical matter. In the BKP shop i cannot find the option for a "no polehole" version of the black covered humbuckers. Do you just have to specify it in the mail when you order it that you want without poleholes ?
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Yes, just specify when you order as an additional instruction
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Nolly played all the BKP's for the clips and he knows what he's talking about. Besides that, I think too many people think you can't play metal with vintagehot-pu's. If you have a highgainamp don't worry, even Mules get you there.
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Thanks for all the feedback guys.
One last thing. I've noticed people writing that they've had problems with "flaking" on the black pickup covers?
It seems that you have some flakes aswell on one of you guitars. Is this a huge problem, and is it just on the black ones?
Thanks
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Yes, the black covers can be scratched through to the nickel underneath by metal-on-metal contact. The damage on mine was done over the course of a 3 week tour from the impact of the strings hitting the covers when picking hard. Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a viable alternative to the car etching primer BKP currently use. You could of course order the covers with the battleworn finish option so that any further damage wouldn't be noticeable!
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Ah ok.. well i might just go for the Brushed Nickel covers then. They also look awesome. Fingers crossed they match the finish on the guitar, im ordering it tomorrow :) And choosing the combination you put up for me, so thanks! :)
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Brushed nickel covers look absolutely awesome in the flesh. I'm considering putting them in a guitar of mine, but with the black allen bolt polepieces..
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Brushed nickel covers look absolutely awesome in the flesh. I'm considering putting them in a guitar of mine, but with the black allen bolt polepieces..
Can you get them with black polepieces? That would be freaking awesome! Would you have to change them afterwards or can you get them delivered with these?
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Yep, just specify black allen bolt polepieces as an additional comment when you order :)
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Nolly played all the BKP's for the clips and he knows what he's talking about. Besides that, I think too many people think you can't play metal with vintagehot-pu's. If you have a highgainamp don't worry, even Mules get you there.
I can't tell you how much I agree. Today I was working on dialing a good all-around progressive metal tone with my C-Pig and I had to turn the gain down well below halfway. It's around 1/3 of full right now, give or take (with emphasis on 'take'). I'm very much considering going the vintage-hot route with my next set.
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Brushed nickel covers look absolutely awesome in the flesh. I'm considering putting them in a guitar of mine, but with the black allen bolt polepieces..
absolutely!
i sent an all-black PK for a similar cover change, i'll post photos when it arrives! ;)
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Brushed nickel covers look absolutely awesome in the flesh. I'm considering putting them in a guitar of mine, but with the black allen bolt polepieces..
absolutely!
i sent an all-black PK for a similar cover change, i'll post photos when it arrives! ;)
I've ordered the guitar now, with the Rebel Yell Bridge and VHII neck, covered with brushed nickel and black allen bolt polepieces :)
Expecting to see the guitar arrive in around a week, will post pictures! :)
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(http://gallery.me.com/powerguitar/100173/P1040076/web.jpg?ver=13026245040001)
So here it is.. or how it looks like anyways. Its just a teaser (for me aswell) as the guitar is soon to arrive.
I can't wait. Looks awesome. So glad i went with the Nickel covers and black polepieces!
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Looks great, enjoy it when it arrives!
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Sure looks great! Keep us informed about the RY/VHII-set.
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Thanks, and i agree i think it looks smashing!
I will give it ago next week, with and without band and let you guys know what i think of the BKP combo.
But one thing i can say is that the seller gave it a try before packing it down again for shipping (to me). And he said, as a BKP dealer, that he loved the combo and would have to get it for his next guitar :)