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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Madsakre on April 11, 2011, 08:58:59 PM

Title: Gibson ruins me..
Post by: Madsakre on April 11, 2011, 08:58:59 PM
(http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/9730/mmfgibsonwraparound.jpg)

I havent seen a price on it yet but no matter what, i guess that im gonna live off earth and rainwater for the next many years
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Post by: _tom_ on April 11, 2011, 09:04:02 PM
That is very nice :)
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Post by: Madsakre on April 11, 2011, 09:05:54 PM
Thats exactly how i like my guitars. Just look at my V :S
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Post by: Andrew W on April 11, 2011, 09:30:14 PM
Yup, that's a pretty one for sure though I liked the gold top they dud a touch more.
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on April 11, 2011, 10:02:40 PM
I like it a lot!
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Post by: nfe on April 11, 2011, 10:14:09 PM
Not into wrap-around bridges because of my string/tuning choices.

Can't decide about a H-X-X les paul. I either think it looks amazing or rotten haha! I'd get on with one great in practice though, never use the neck pickup in mine I find.
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Post by: Alex on April 11, 2011, 11:49:19 PM
The bridge ruins it, how are you going to intonate that properly if you downtune it!??!
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Post by: Telerocker on April 12, 2011, 12:32:29 AM
Stop-tail-piece is missing, so is one pu.  :)
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Post by: gwEm on April 12, 2011, 11:03:34 AM
wraparound is cool! would be nice with a mini-HB in the neck and a full set of controls.

customs should have all the features I think.
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Post by: Twinfan on April 12, 2011, 11:47:00 AM
The bridge ruins it, how are you going to intonate that properly if you downtune it!??!

Buy a TonePros adjustable stoptail  ;)
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Post by: Philly Q on April 12, 2011, 11:58:34 AM
All you philistines with your anti-wraparound sentiments!  :P

I think it looks great, but still think it would be better with the controls in a line like a Junior.
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Post by: horsehead on April 12, 2011, 01:19:12 PM
mmmm tasty love
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Post by: PhilKing on April 12, 2011, 02:21:36 PM
You can get the intonation pretty close on the wrap arounds (I've heard a lot of ToM guitars which are worse than some of my wrap arounds).  Some of it might be string gauges (I tend to have 11-50 on wrap arounds).  PRS use a wrap around (albeit a compensated), because of the improvement in tone.  As Philly says, if you really want use a Pigtail or Tonepros adjustable tailpiece, though there were a lot of Badass bridges around in the 70's and people went back to the basics.

I love wrap arounds, I have lots of guitars with them (including new custom ones).  I do also like ToM's on guitars, but don't write off wrap arounds until you try them 

Having said that, I actually like Led Paul customs with 2 pickups - wrap arounds or not.  I'm not as keen on the junior look, though a custom with a single P-90 and controls parallel to the string line would be something that I would like.
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Post by: nfe on April 12, 2011, 02:45:04 PM
Of course you can change the stoptail, and of course they are perfectly workable with common string gauges in "standard" tunings. But when you're building a a guitar clearly angled towards a lot of people who are going to have big strings and low tunings, it seems bizarre not to stick something adjustable on it.
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Post by: Madsakre on April 12, 2011, 03:21:09 PM
Well i would end up giving it a babicz bridge sometime anyway :D

Well chuck had a wraparound on his stealth.. but he only tuned to D anyway :)
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Post by: Philly Q on April 12, 2011, 05:21:45 PM
Of course you can change the stoptail, and of course they are perfectly workable with common string gauges in "standard" tunings. But when you're building a a guitar clearly angled towards a lot of people who are going to have big strings and low tunings, it seems bizarre not to stick something adjustable on it.

Do you think it's angled towards the big strings and low tunings community?  To me it seems more like something for vintage fans who like to live a little dangerously once in a while.
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Post by: nfe on April 12, 2011, 05:24:41 PM
Yeah possibly. Just a single pickup LPC seems SO metal to me. A stripped down custom kinda being the opposite of what I'd think even dangerous-living vintage fans would gravitate towards.

That said, given Gibson's DMT based design team there's every chance a target market never occurred to them at all.
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Post by: gwEm on April 12, 2011, 05:24:55 PM
i also have doubts that was intended to be a br00talz guitar, i'm saying blues rock
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Post by: Philly Q on April 12, 2011, 06:12:58 PM
Yeah possibly. Just a single pickup LPC seems SO metal to me. A stripped down custom kinda being the opposite of what I'd think even dangerous-living vintage fans would gravitate towards.

I'm not exactly a vintage fan (certainly not in a "collector" sense), but I am very much a Les Paul Jr fan, and I've always liked the aesthetics of a black/gold LP Custom (but never seriously considered buying one).  Combining the two does seem rather bold and exciting!
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Post by: Telerocker on April 12, 2011, 08:33:55 PM
Personally I favour the rawness and simplicity of the Junior to the more sophisticated Les Paul 'missing one pu'.  :)
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Post by: Tellboy on April 13, 2011, 09:38:36 AM
Personally I favour the rawness and simplicity of the Junior to the more sophisticated Les Paul 'missing one pu'.  :)

Agree - also the headstock looks like one of those chinese "velly nice" guitars sold on ebay - prefer the original narrow headstocks.

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/6/6d/Gibson_Les_Paul_Custom_1974-1.JPG/449px-)
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Post by: dheim on April 13, 2011, 05:11:54 PM
to be honest i prefer "regular" les pauls (i love the looks of single HB guitars, just i'm not sure about H-x les pauls), but it looks great nonetheless! with a ceramic pig and a miniswitch to split coils in place of the tone pot it would slay! ;)
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Post by: Madsakre on April 13, 2011, 06:29:59 PM
Why use ceramic pigs when you can get 90 ceramic pigs in a box xD
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Post by: gordiji on April 13, 2011, 07:48:41 PM
lovely guitar, but for the price (i'm assuming it's north of a grand) why would you buy a 1 pup guitar?
if you've loads of money it's not important but a neck pup is worth having even if it's only for using from time to time. 
won't even cost more.
Title: Re: Gibson ruins me..
Post by: Madsakre on April 13, 2011, 08:21:45 PM
Well mainly because of the design. And my philosophy in life is that neck pickups are bad, and therefore should be avioded :)
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Post by: nfe on April 13, 2011, 08:22:45 PM
I think it'll be upwards of 2k, never mind one. Well, if it's still pitched as a custom. What's a normal custom nowadays? Last time I looked at one on a wall it was £2,799 (in GuitarGuitar, not a wee independent).

If it's still a custom, and doesn't just look like one, it'll be reet dear.
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Post by: Philly Q on April 13, 2011, 09:54:55 PM
Yep, the similar P-90 model costs £2,799, so I'd expect the same sort of price!

http://www.guitar-village.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=10107&catid=78&manid=119&quantity=1&product=Gibson+Les+Paul+Limited+Edition+Custom+1+P-90+%28HB201C%29+%23CS001747%2C+Antique+Ebony%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+%26+COA (http://www.guitar-village.co.uk/product-detail.asp?id=10107&catid=78&manid=119&quantity=1&product=Gibson+Les+Paul+Limited+Edition+Custom+1+P-90+%28HB201C%29+%23CS001747%2C+Antique+Ebony%2C+New%2C+Inc%2E+Case+%26+COA)
Title: Re: Gibson ruins me..
Post by: Lukie on April 14, 2011, 11:20:32 PM
It looks too big with only one pickup, kind of out of proportion. Maybe if they made the body a bit smaller it would look better.