Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: ztikmaen on April 28, 2011, 01:22:05 PM
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I have only a Dunlop Crybaby and a Crother Studio Hotcake. (I do so love the Hotcake :D)
I don't use the Wah much at all, I've found it too be a little gimmicky and not versatile. I run through a Fender Hotrod Deluxe.
I've been thinking about getting a fuzz pedal, although my Hotcake gives off fuzz tones whenthe gain is cranked past 3 o'clock. This fuzz is a creamy thick type, not very splatty. Quite bluesy like the Black Keys. Maybe a dirtier fuzz pedal could be fun...
I'm not much of a fan of Choruses, I find them to take away from the natural tone a bit too much. The reverb in my amp is quite fine. Phasers and tremolos aren't my cuppa tea
What else is there? Maybe I could get a compressor? Or maybe even a distortion pedal for my solo stuff...
So guys, what pedals do you use most? I would like something to go with a smooth and natural overdrive pedal that does a bit of fuzz and I'm not into gimmicks
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I never leave the house without a compressor.
Actually that's a lie. but I do use compression a lot.
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How about a delay?
Not really sure what music you play, but when I used to have a HRDx, I used a wah > chorus > distortion > phaser > delay into the clean channel. In the end I only kept the wah, distortion and delay (and sold the amp actually, but I was after a heavier sound).
Point of the story: you've already got a distortion and wah, so go for a delay :)
Also, I find when I use distortion and neck pickup and roll the tone knob to zero, I get a pretty cool fuzz going on, which may cancel out your need for a fuzz pedal?
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How anyone copes without a MuRF or an Uglyface is quite beyond me... Oh yeah, Shobert, made another. Refined into almost pure awesomeness. Say the word man and I'll knock together the dual pedal of MADNESS. I'm itching to do it...
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/megaforce-to.jpg)
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How anyone copes without a MuRF or an Uglyface is quite beyond me... Oh yeah, Shobert, made another. Refined into almost pure awesomeness. Say the word man and I'll knock together the dual pedal of MADNESS. I'm itching to do it...
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/megaforce-to.jpg)
MuRF ????? :?
I'd vote you get a Phase 45 - I know you don't like Phasers, but this is much more subtle than a Phase 90 or Small Stone and THAT is why I like it, it doesn't trod all over your tone, it just adds to it. On a faster setting it sounds nice and shimmery for clean tones, love it to bits.
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You had to be there man, you had to be there. 8)
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I have two pedals I absolutly love: MXR 10band EQ and the BBE Sonic Stomp (which I know I usually get a lot of hate for).
The EQ can be used beautifulle to shape your sound, be it making it metally, sparkly or a mid boost for solos, all just one stomp away. Every band is +-12db and there is also a level and gain controll. So you can for example use a mid boost for solos, plus a boost to drive your amp extra for the solo. True bypass and all, I like it a hole lot.
Now the second thing, the sonic stomp gets a lot of hate in a lot of places. I do not know exactly how it works, itīs a phase correction thing where normally there is phasecancelation which makes the sound muddy, but the bottom line is that I still always have this thing on. What it effectivly does? It makes your sound clearer, more defined. Takes muddynes out and gives it that certain something.
If your sound sucks, it will not make it great (you only polish the turd), but it can make a great sound be amazing. It is often described as taking a blanket of your speaker, which gets you at least the right idea. It is very noticeble in clean sounds, not as much in distorted, but as you play a fender amp youīll probably be rather clean most of the times (even if you werenīt this thing is great). A lot of people say it is just a gloryfied EQ, but I and most who tried it feel there is something more there (and most profesional reviews agree).
It is also available in rack form, called Sonic Maximizer, which is to be prefered if possible, I just donīt have a rack / space for one.
These two things are nothing gimmiky, they just improve your sound. The Sonic Stomp will just give your tone that extra "thing" and improve your tone. The EQ will give you the possibility to improve your tone and shape it in many, many ways, making it very versatile.
Just two kinda basic things I can just recommend.
I also have a Fuzz pedal on the way that should arrive in the next few days. When it does I can tell you something bout that too, might be the dirt you want out of one (I hope so ;)
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From looking up the sonic stomp it does just seem to be a tone shaping device and nothing that you couldn't do with your current EQ.
However from listening clips it also seems to add a sort of solidstateish sort of sound into the signal which is puzzling me. maybe it has some mild clipping going on in there too.
As for non gimicky pedals how about a nice lush chorus?
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Maybe Electro-Harmonix POG2?
You mentioned you are not a fan of wah but I had a Guyatone WR-3 for some time and loved the thing. Dirty or clean it was nice.
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I've found that I can't survive without my treble boosters - either my HPE Germania or my Devi Ever Punch Love.
In terms of modulation mostly I'm using my Red Witch Moon Phaser - that one pedal covers LOTS of sonic terratory!
Mark.
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I've found that I can't survive without my treble boosters - either my HPE Germania or my Devi Ever Punch Love.
yeah, they do something pretty special don't they
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How anyone copes without a MuRF or an Uglyface is quite beyond me... Oh yeah, Shobert, made another. Refined into almost pure awesomeness. Say the word man and I'll knock together the dual pedal of MADNESS. I'm itching to do it...
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/megaforce-to.jpg)
Word and how much?
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From looking up the sonic stomp it does just seem to be a tone shaping device and nothing that you couldn't do with your current EQ.
However from listening clips it also seems to add a sort of solidstateish sort of sound into the signal which is puzzling me. maybe it has some mild clipping going on in there too.
I really don't like any of the BBE products and I did try to get along with a few. The top end becomes sharp and nasty and the bottom end becomes mud.
I wholly recommend the Aphex Xciter/Big Bottom products. I was shy about trying Aphex after giving the finger to BBE, but I've had either an Aphex pedal or a rackmount unit in my chain always for 6 years now. A little goes a long way, it's not an everything on ten kind of product. The Big Bottom is insanely great for getting small cabinets to sound much larger and the Xciter does what you wished the BBE products would do. A little extra 3D sparkle and life to the top end and to the part of the top end that you choose.
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How anyone copes without a MuRF or an Uglyface is quite beyond me... Oh yeah, Shobert, made another. Refined into almost pure awesomeness. Say the word man and I'll knock together the dual pedal of MADNESS. I'm itching to do it...
(http://juansolo.demon.co.uk/stompage/images/megaforce-to.jpg)
Word and how much?
Gonna be an UF+LFO+ an other effect (still haven't decided what works best, leaning towards the trem as that's really quite funky). Probably about Ģ120ish as it's gonna have a lot of hardware in it (probably 10 knobs, a few switches, etc).
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Shall we go mental? PM sent.
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From looking up the sonic stomp it does just seem to be a tone shaping device and nothing that you couldn't do with your current EQ.
However from listening clips it also seems to add a sort of solidstateish sort of sound into the signal which is puzzling me. maybe it has some mild clipping going on in there too.
As for non gimicky pedals how about a nice lush chorus?
Disagree with just tone shaping effect of BBE
My racks all have a BBE Sonic Maximiser and it is essential - always on but set carefully or else it can end up sounding fake
To my ears it splits the frequency spectrum like a crossover and delays the bass just enough to allow the treble to hit at exactly the same time as the bass, giving way more definition that it would have otherwise.
Then you can also adjust the ratio of the bass and treble parts of the spectrum, although you are best to take it easy or it sounds a bit overdone .
Great for turning a regular Marshall type tone into something that Zakk Wylde would approve of.
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mmmm phase 45 love my script version
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From looking up the sonic stomp it does just seem to be a tone shaping device and nothing that you couldn't do with your current EQ.
However from listening clips it also seems to add a sort of solidstateish sort of sound into the signal which is puzzling me. maybe it has some mild clipping going on in there too.
As for non gimicky pedals how about a nice lush chorus?
Disagree with just tone shaping effect of BBE
My racks all have a BBE Sonic Maximiser and it is essential - always on but set carefully or else it can end up sounding fake
To my ears it splits the frequency spectrum like a crossover and delays the bass just enough to allow the treble to hit at exactly the same time as the bass, giving way more definition that it would have otherwise.
Then you can also adjust the ratio of the bass and treble parts of the spectrum, although you are best to take it easy or it sounds a bit overdone .
Great for turning a regular Marshall type tone into something that Zakk Wylde would approve of.
Hmm interesting.
I should have stated that i have never personally used one my comments are just from youtube clips...
this thread caused me to look them up
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From looking up the sonic stomp it does just seem to be a tone shaping device and nothing that you couldn't do with your current EQ.
However from listening clips it also seems to add a sort of solidstateish sort of sound into the signal which is puzzling me. maybe it has some mild clipping going on in there too.
As for non gimicky pedals how about a nice lush chorus?
Disagree with just tone shaping effect of BBE
My racks all have a BBE Sonic Maximiser and it is essential - always on but set carefully or else it can end up sounding fake
To my ears it splits the frequency spectrum like a crossover and delays the bass just enough to allow the treble to hit at exactly the same time as the bass, giving way more definition that it would have otherwise.
Then you can also adjust the ratio of the bass and treble parts of the spectrum, although you are best to take it easy or it sounds a bit overdone .
Great for turning a regular Marshall type tone into something that Zakk Wylde would approve of.
Nicely put, thats what I meant to say before, but I was at a lack of words. Well done.
I just can underline that there is a sweet spot for every setup that has to be found (going above that will sound like described by both of you), but when you find it, its great.
Though it is less of an effect were you think: wow this sound great! but more of one where when you take it away you thing: why does this sound so shiteety now? Hope that makes sense. "You donīt know what you got till its gone" kinda thing, cause its so subtle, just generally imroving your tone.
If you have a chance to try it, do it, I believe most people who actually trie one will be believers.
Put a "couple of hundred bucks worth of sound" on my setup, if you know what I mean.
If you have a good sound it can give it that certain thing that makes it sound like a professional sound, like FELINEGUITARS put it with the Marshal going all Wylde.
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So the BBE Superstomp, does it make your amp sound "loud" without being loud? Because the things I've heard about it are either really good or really hateful...
Does it make your tone sound fake?
Also, what are some good natural compression pedals?
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I can't live without a delay/echo pedal anymore. even if you don't play rockabilly, a little slapback echo does wonders for your clean sound. A longer delay and a couple of repeats can make a solo sound huge.
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If you are new to the pedal world, you could just get a Line6 M9 and have every possible effect you could ever want. Saves a lot of money in the long run and you might discover some really cool effects you never though of before.
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If you are new to the pedal world, you could just get a Line6 M9 and have every possible effect you could ever want. Saves a lot of money in the long run and you might discover some really cool effects you never though of before.
That's a good suggestion. It's easy to use too. The delays shine in this unit.
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try out freekish blues coily fuzz, excellent fuzz face clones which cover hendrix and other tones like muse and white stripes brilliantly. I've had mine for about a month when I got bored and wanted another pedal..!....the only thing is as good as this sounds, i can't get it to work well with a wah pedal :(
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BK30D6g_6TQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ftPGxEFHQg
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If you are new to the pedal world, you could just get a Line6 M9 and have every possible effect you could ever want. Saves a lot of money in the long run and you might discover some really cool effects you never though of before.
That's a good suggestion. It's easy to use too. The delays shine in this unit.
And has a true bypass!
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And has a true bypass!
True bypass is not always a good thing. I prefer having a buffer in my chain somewhere as having a pile of true bypass pedals and the associated cables in there effectively lengthens the cable run, adding capacitance and can equally suck tone in my experience.
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And has a true bypass!
True bypass is not always a good thing. I prefer having a buffer in my chain somewhere as having a pile of true bypass pedals and the associated cables in there effectively lengthens the cable run, adding capacitance and can equally suck tone in my experience.
+1.
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True bypass and the pro's and con's requires a new thread, I suppose. To much true bypass could indeed suck the tone. I use a buffer too. Nevertheless the Line6 M9 is a great tool for a good price. I like all the time-effects. The filters are nice too.
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I can't live without a delay/echo pedal anymore. even if you don't play rockabilly, a little slapback echo does wonders for your clean sound. A longer delay and a couple of repeats can make a solo sound huge.
+1
get a delay! youīll get alot of interesting sounds!
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Why don't you buy that Line 6 stompbox where you can program an create any stompbox you want. Check the Line 6 website. It really does look interesting
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Why don't you buy that Line 6 stompbox where you can program an create any stompbox you want. Check the Line 6 website. It really does look interesting
Well I kinda want an organic rig that's all real so yeah... I guess a nice delay would be nice, any ideas on that?
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You've got to remember, the majority of stomboxes are digital. You may be thinking in terms of that Line 6 do digital modelling amps. A stomp box is digital so the Line 6 will be like any other stomp box you can buy except you can modify it. It may not be as good as an individual pedals thats designed for one purpose, but it will give you the creative freedom to experiment. In other words it will narrow down your selection for the future. Your organic sound will come from your guitar and amp. FX just colour the sound tbh. The line 6 is probably better than anything you can buy if you're unsure about what you want since you want something different; possibly to experiment.
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Not boutique, but good and affordable:
analog: MXR Carbon Copy/ has modulation
digital: TC Electronic Flashback delay/looper: loads of sounds/options, tap tempo by strumming the guitar. great pedal for little money.
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Analogue sounds like a good idea, but don't worry I'm not obsessed with boutique stuff, as long as it's not gimmicky and it's the "real deal". I have a Spider Jam for my effects and settings btw, sorry for forgetting to add that
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Listen some clips of the TC on youtube. It's a nice pedal and versatile.
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Shall we go mental? PM sent.
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