Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: pedrozepelim on May 04, 2011, 09:35:31 PM
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Like the subject states, need some meaner and higher output Mule sounding pickups, for a slightly bright Les Paul Custom.
What's you opinion, guys?
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check out emeralds and black dogs and holy divers
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that's the abraxas
the diver sounds absolutely nothing like a mule
the black dog might work too
quite fat and smooth, with a darker top end
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I don't find Emeralds, Black Dogs or Holy Divers to be "aggressive", just punchy.
The first thing I thought of reading the thread title was Riff Raffs.....
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that's the abraxas
the diver sounds absolutely nothing like a mule
yeah i see what you're saying, i misinterpreted as more aggressive alnico pickup if I'm honest. Never tried an abraxas.
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Abraxas indeed, sort of a hotrodded Mule.
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This screams Black Dogs
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I thought the Abraxas was a smoother sort of tone than the Mule, but I only played them quickly years ago through fairly quiet amps at Music Live, so my judgement may be a bit clouded! VHII seemed to have a similar vibe but with a bit more output and bite.
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I also want the answer to this question, but from what I've heard the Abraxas are like hotrodded Mules.
On the same note do Mules sound muddy in the neck?
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Alnico V mules maybe? Might be a no enough of what you want, but it should get you closer as well.
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I also want the answer to this question, but from what I've heard the Abraxas are like hotrodded Mules.
I don't think there is one, catch-all "answer". There are several PAF-style pickups in the range, which one is correct for you depends on your guitar and what you're after.
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If looking for a hike in output I would have suggested looking at the Crawler - especially if your LP is a bit bright.
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I don't find Emeralds, Black Dogs or Holy Divers to be "aggressive", just punchy.
The first thing I thought of reading the thread title was Riff Raffs.....
yes, i tend to agree twinfan. but on the other hand, higher output is mentioned.
i'm going to suggest the vh2s.. the crawler and emeralds are good, but for me don't have that aggressive attack.
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Yep, I agree gwEm - VHIIs would give that 'snap' along with higher output :)
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for aggressive Mules you want an Abraxas - they are fat, but have no shortage of grunt if you want it.
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+ 1 on the Abraxas vote.
What the OP describes is what I wanted for my CU22 and the Abraxas don't disappoint.
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I was certainly under the impression that the Abraxas was a hotter Mule and that the Crawler was a similar idea but hotter still.
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I was certainly under the impression that the Abraxas was a hotter Mule and that the Crawler was a similar idea but hotter still.
Thats my experience, but I wouldn't say the Crawler was much hotter than the Abraxas - just voiced with more mids and modern edge compared to the Abraxas.
I perferred the Abraxas fwiw and I'm a old school PAF guy in the main.
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I found that the clips on the website, while sounding very good, didn't do the Abraxas justice. Listening to the Abraxas clips in the Players section really shows how good these can be. I'd always assumed that when I get my all mahogany guitar I'd get Mules because I love them but I'm increasingly thinking that the Abraxas might be a cool option.
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I was certainly under the impression that the Abraxas was a hotter Mule and that the Crawler was a similar idea but hotter still.
Thats my experience, but I wouldn't say the Crawler was much hotter than the Abraxas - just voiced with more mids and modern edge compared to the Abraxas.
I perferred the Abraxas fwiw and I'm a old school PAF guy in the main.
I think you point the difference quite accurately.
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Thats my experience, but I wouldn't say the Crawler was much hotter than the Abraxas - just voiced with more mids and modern edge compared to the Abraxas.
That is interesting. Would you say that the Abraxas is a bit brighter or significantly brighter than the Crawler (bridge and neck models)?
Thanks, Stephan
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Found this quote from HTH Amps on the comparison Crawlers vs. Abraxas:
BRIDGE
Crawler - PAF vibe, but hotter with a midrange focus, more modern sounding
Abraxas - PAF vibe, but hotter, similar tonal balance to a PAF, great all rounder
NECK
Crawler - PAF vibe, but hotter (not much though), much like a Mule, can be a bit blurred in the bass notes
Abraxas - more like a Patent# PAF or T-top, a little less hot, but clearer (more top end) with no blurred bass, can sound just as fat as Mule or Crawler neck by running the tone on around 5.
From that I take that the Abraxas set should have significantly more top end compared to the Crawler.
Cheers Stephan
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May I ask why not a Black Dog? I thought that be a great choice for a LP custom.
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A Black Dog could work too in a Les Paul, but I think - and read this a few times - it's less versatile then the Abraxas or a Mule. It's a middy middy pu and that has to be your cake. It so, count in the Black Dog.
About the Crawler: big mids, but not a piercing topend, however it's not dull too. I like it, but depends on your amp and guitar too. I would stick to the Abraxas for the bridge.
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The bridge Abraxas sounds legendary, but by the sounds of it the neck PU Abraxas is similar to the Mule?
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Specs for the neck-pu's are close. Both AIV and similar dc-resistance, there should not be a big difference.
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Specs for the neck-pu's are close. Both AIV and similar dc-resistance, there should not be a big difference.
Should be awesome then :D