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Title: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 05, 2011, 11:30:03 AM
http://www.nme.com/blog/index.php?blog=149&p=10225&title=the_twenty_heaviest_metal_records_of_all_1&more=1&c=1

Which, unlike the online-poll of the last 20 Greatest Metal Albums list, is full of brilliant albums.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Jonny on May 05, 2011, 12:41:15 PM
Meshuggah, fantastic.
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Post by: _tom_ on May 05, 2011, 12:55:06 PM
Good list that :D

"Heavier than: Dr Manhattan’s massive blue c--k in a giant lead condom."

:lol:
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
Wow, I own three of those albums.  Cred or what?
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: gwEm on May 05, 2011, 04:30:38 PM
Wow, I own three of those albums.  Cred or what?

you are a fu_king cool guy man ;)
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 04:45:23 PM
ive only heard of about 3 of those bands on that list and would only listen to one of them by choice.

That one being sabbath
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 05:45:49 PM
Wow, I own three of those albums.  Cred or what?

you are a fu_king cool guy man ;)

 :twisted: :good:

(and similar emoticons)
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: dave_mc on May 05, 2011, 06:31:22 PM
"While Kerry King and Jeff Hanneman aren’t as technically gifted at soloing as, say, Metallica’s Dave Mustaine,"

wut

and yeah i've heard of about two of those bands
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 06:32:48 PM
well if it was 1982....
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: dave_mc on May 05, 2011, 07:21:01 PM
still doesn't explain why he thinks mustaine is gifted at soloing... :lol:

I mean as the consistently second-best soloist in megadeth... :lol:
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 05, 2011, 07:21:14 PM
ive only heard of about 3 of those bands on that list and would only listen to one of them by choice.

That one being sabbath

Well you've 17 to give a shot then!
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Elliot on May 05, 2011, 07:25:49 PM
Why aren't the Wonderstuff in this list, what is the NME coming too these days??
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Post by: HTH AMPS on May 05, 2011, 08:11:57 PM
Why aren't the Wonderstuff in this list, what is the NME coming too these days??

or Ned's Atomic Dustbin - who could forget their classic 'Kill Your Television'  :lol:
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Antag on May 05, 2011, 08:22:00 PM
Well, at least they chose the right Meshuggah album & they got Godflesh in there.  Otherwise, it's nonsense (IMH-and admittedly subjective-O :))

FWIW, I own 4 of the albums on that list...
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 09:15:53 PM
still doesn't explain why he thinks mustaine is gifted at soloing... :lol:

I mean as the consistently second-best soloist in megadeth... :lol:

To be fair to Mustaine himself (not that it's him making this claim!), except during his most egomaniacal phases, he's bigged up his rhythm playing but he's been quite modest about his soloing skills.  And (again, most of the time) he's been full of praise for his lead guitarists.

Sorry, off topic.

I really should own Dopethrone.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 09:17:56 PM
still doesn't explain why he thinks mustaine is gifted at soloing... :lol:

I mean as the consistently second-best soloist in megadeth... :lol:

To be fair to Mustaine himself (not that it's him making this claim!), except during his most egomaniacal phases, he's bigged up his rhythm playing but he's been quite modest about his soloing skills.  And (again, most of the time) he's been full of praise for his lead guitarists.

Sorry, off topic.

I really should own Dopethrone.

I'm actually quite fond of his lead playing in most cases its not overly complex or utter w**kery and always fits the songs perfectly.

I preferred all of Dave's solos on endgame and didnt like a single one of chris'.

I just listened to Sun)))

what the hell is that ????
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Post by: dave_mc on May 05, 2011, 09:27:12 PM
^ haven't really listened to endgame :lol: I mainly mean friedman when I talk about megadeth, lol.

To be fair to Mustaine himself (not that it's him making this claim!), except during his most egomaniacal phases, he's bigged up his rhythm playing but he's been quite modest about his soloing skills.  And (again, most of the time) he's been full of praise for his lead guitarists.

Oh yeah, sure. My complaint's not with mustaine (who's admittedly a pretty good rhythm guitarist, and as you say, normally gives due credit to the lead players), it's with the press.

"Oh he's the main guy who sings? And he plays guitar too? He must be the lead guitarist! Who's that eejit over there with the curly hair? He can't be doing anything important..."

:lol:
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Philly Q on May 05, 2011, 09:28:12 PM
I'm actually quite fond of his lead playing in most cases its not overly complex or utter w**kery and always fits the songs perfectly.

I preferred all of Dave's solos on endgame and didnt like a single one of chris'.

Actually, I agree with you there.  I find Mustaine's solos a bit repetitive but at least they're appropriate to the songs.  

I'm a fan of Poland and especially Friedman.  I have no strong feelings either way about Young or Pitrelli.  But I haven't liked the playing of the last two lead guitarists (Drover and Broderick) at all - and it's spoiled my enjoyment of the last couple of albums.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: dave_mc on May 05, 2011, 09:31:41 PM
yeah friedman is just (http://www.ultimate-guitar.com/forum/images/smilies/bowdown.gif)
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Transcend on May 05, 2011, 09:34:50 PM
I'm actually quite fond of his lead playing in most cases its not overly complex or utter w**kery and always fits the songs perfectly.

I preferred all of Dave's solos on endgame and didnt like a single one of chris'.

Actually, I agree with you there.  I find Mustaine's solos a bit repetitive but at least they're appropriate to the songs. 

I'm a fan of Poland and especially Friedman.  I have no strong feelings either way about Young or Pitrelli.  But I haven't liked the playing of the last two lead guitarists (Drover and Broderick) at all - and it's spoiled my enjoyment of the last couple of albums.

I preferred Drover to broderick for the original solos, but Broderick is great at playing all the old school ones.

I do however love Drovers work with Eidolon & King Diamond it's a lot more creative than what he did in megadeth.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Andrew W on May 06, 2011, 08:35:13 AM
Any list with Black Sabbath and Electric Wizard is OK by me.

One track I never see on these kinds of lists is Ministry's "N.W.O." the first track on the ΚΕΦΑΛΗΞΘ album. To my ears the intro is amongst the heaviest things ever recorded; a full on aural assault. I love it.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: HairyChris on May 09, 2011, 11:56:30 AM
It's quite a fun list. Interesting to see that he went for doom/stoner/sludge "heavy" as a general rule.

If anyone hasn't seen Sunn O))) live, try to. It's... an experience!  :D Take ear protection and make sure that you aren't feeling unwell on the day.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 09, 2011, 06:06:24 PM
It's quite a fun list. Interesting to see that he went for doom/stoner/sludge "heavy" as a general rule.

For the most part I think that's pretty sound thinking. The do tend to be more "dense" than other genres.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Philly Q on May 09, 2011, 06:13:27 PM
It's quite a fun list. Interesting to see that he went for doom/stoner/sludge "heavy" as a general rule.

For the most part I think that's pretty sound thinking. The do tend to be more "dense" than other genres.

Oddly enough, they're the only "extreme" metal sub-genres I find fairly listenable.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 09, 2011, 06:36:53 PM
Whilst I do think doom tends to be "heavier" than everything else, two of my three favourite albums on their are black metal smash-ups of sorts, Eater of Birds and The Codex Necro. Both utterly horrible works.
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Post by: Davey on May 09, 2011, 09:36:57 PM
I just listened to Sun)))

what the hell is that ????
nothing but noise...
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 09, 2011, 10:06:23 PM
I just listened to Sun)))

what the hell is that ????
nothing but noise...

Well that's not true, they ARE playing riffs. They're just really, really, really slow ones. But it's structured. You can't sit it alongside, say, Merzbow.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: HairyChris on May 10, 2011, 01:13:42 PM
Whilst I do think doom tends to be "heavier" than everything else, two of my three favourite albums on their are black metal smash-ups of sorts, Eater of Birds and The Codex Necro. Both utterly horrible works.
I'm really looking forward to seeing Anaal Nathrakh again on Sunday. Love 'em, and I don't go for black metal (which they kind of aren't exactly).
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: nfe on May 10, 2011, 02:33:57 PM
I played with them on Friday. They were really a black metal/grindcore thing originally and are now more varied again. Dynamite live band - throughout all the lineups.
Title: Re: And now, NME's twenty heaviest records...
Post by: Madsakre on May 10, 2011, 05:49:01 PM


I really should own Dopethrone.

Yep