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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: doomcaster on May 26, 2011, 09:42:36 PM

Title: New guitar for metal?
Post by: doomcaster on May 26, 2011, 09:42:36 PM
I've always played ss Teles and I love em, but now I'm moving towards more heavy metal and need a guitar with high output pups and a trem system, and preferably not some "fancy modern superstrat emg loaded pointy thing"
Any tele models which are good for metal but look old school ie single coil pups and tele bridge/ bigsby?
Or any recommendations for good partscaster ideas, (remembering that it cant look out of place in '52)
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Madsakre on May 26, 2011, 10:15:49 PM
If you can stand the looks, then maybe a b.c rich.
I love the warlock shape due to it being perfect for the way i play which is the classic stance, 45 degrees.

Maybe a Mockingbird or a bich xD
http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Warlock/Warlock-NJ-Deluxe/106 (http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Warlock/Warlock-NJ-Deluxe/106)http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Mockingbird/Mockingbird-Pro-X/66 (http://www.bcrich.com/models/guitars/Mockingbird/Mockingbird-Pro-X/66)http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Soloist-Body&page=1&product=2913173803 (http://www.jacksonguitars.com/products/products.php?group=Soloist-Body&page=1&product=2913173803)

None of these guitars are too expensive either :)


Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Philly Q on May 26, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
Any tele models which are good for metal but look old school ie single coil pups and tele bridge/ bigsby?
Or any recommendations for good partscaster ideas, (remembering that it cant look out of place in '52)

The only way you're going to get that is by putting hot pickups in an actual Tele, isn't it?  :?

John 5 model, maybe?  Looks modern but still has a vintage vibe.

Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 26, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
It's a fixed bridge rather than a trem, but maybe the Jim Root (from Slipknot/Stone Sour) sig Tele would be worth a look? Tele body/headstock shape, but a mahogany body, EMGs and jumbo frets. Alternatively, doing something along similar lines but made from bits may work out cheaper/have fewer associations with a band you perhaps aren't keen on.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: JacksonRR on May 26, 2011, 11:44:20 PM
It's probably Warmoth or some decently priced local luthier that will be your best bet for exactly what you are looking for. You get to choose the woods, the finish, all of it. Go play some somewhat similarly shaped guitars(not V's) and get a feel for what neck and body contributions you're looking for or start with the pickups you are aiming to get and work the rest in. I know forum member Wez could do whatever you want, have the experience to help you with options and you'd be able to have whatever neck joint you'd like instead of being limited to bolt on.  :wink:
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Kiichi on May 27, 2011, 06:15:14 AM
Any tele models which are good for metal but look old school ie single coil pups and tele bridge/ bigsby?
Or any recommendations for good partscaster ideas, (remembering that it cant look out of place in '52)

The only way you're going to get that is by putting hot pickups in an actual Tele, isn't it?  :?

John 5 model, maybe?  Looks modern but still has a vintage vibe.


+1 on that John 5 model.
Listen to his stuff, now that is nice dark metal, but, just as he is, very versatile as well.  Even the stock PUs are supposed to be great, very dark. And it look vintage ´nough, or will with some nice BKPs....
At least that´s what I think.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: horsehead on May 27, 2011, 08:24:26 AM
(self imposed spam thread hijack) I have a Peavey Wolfgang special for sale at the moment. It would cover the trem angle as it has a floyd with Drop-D tuna, 2 humbuckers & is vaguely tele shaped.....very vaguely
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Stevepage on May 27, 2011, 10:33:58 AM
(http://www.gear-vault.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jim-root-fender-telecaster.jpg)

one of these?
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Madsakre on May 27, 2011, 10:55:31 AM
Oops i read your post wrong :P

But if i were you, then i would make a parts caster from warmoth. A mahogany body with a single vol, humbucker and recessed floyd routing costs 395$
And a maple neck with ebony fretboard is around 400 too.. Not too bad for a badass guitar.

http://www.warmoth.com/
go into body builder and neck builder and run amok :)
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Alex on May 27, 2011, 11:42:51 AM
http://www.schecterguitars.com/International/Products/Guitar/PT.aspx

This one got a great review in Guitarist, it also has good looks, not too far from Teles.

Alternatively, you could get the Fender Blacktop Tele.

In both cases it would be a lot cheaper than the John5 Teles and you can then just put Bareknuckles in them without having to change pots from the EMG hardware.

Finally they make one with a trem too, if you really need that (the classic player Tele).
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Jonny on May 27, 2011, 01:20:34 PM
I'd definitely go for the Jim Root signatures. They are bbbbbeeeeeeau-tay-ful
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 27, 2011, 01:34:49 PM
Yeah, agree the Jim Root ones look great. Not so keen on the control layout myself, but should appeal to a lot of people used to a more super-stratty layout.

One thing to note though: the JR Tele I tried looked like the bridge wasn't on straight – might be a QC red flag…
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Philly Q on May 27, 2011, 02:19:19 PM
If it wasn't for the skinny neck* even I would buy a Jim Root Tele.  Very cool design.


(* Strange, since Jim Root is a giant!)
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Transcend on May 27, 2011, 02:20:26 PM
In my opinion a tele for metal is just a no go both soundwise and imagewise its just wrong.

And before anyone posts pics of Hetfield with a tele that was on a rock album :P

So yeah anything but a tele for metal!
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: AndyR on May 27, 2011, 02:22:53 PM
In my opinion a tele for metal is just a no go both soundwise and imagewise its just wrong.

And before anyone posts pics of Hetfield with a tele that was on a rock album :P

So yeah anything but a tele for metal!

Go and sit in the corner with Roo
:lol: :wink:
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Transcend on May 27, 2011, 02:23:45 PM
In my opinion a tele for metal is just a no go both soundwise and imagewise its just wrong.

And before anyone posts pics of Hetfield with a tele that was on a rock album :P

So yeah anything but a tele for metal!

Go and sit in the corner with Roo
:lol: :wink:

Haha i don't dislike teles that much i just think they are wrong for metal
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Stevepage on May 27, 2011, 02:25:17 PM
I had the Jim Root tele (maple board) and it was great for metal. I sold it to get a PRS but if I was playing strictly metal, I would of stuck with the Jim Root Tele. You get a LOT of guitar for the money.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: gwEm on May 27, 2011, 03:03:30 PM
just get a Flying V bruv, the 'shred V' has a whammy. Loads of the read routed '84 models were fitted with them too. there was also an epiphone gothic model with one too :)
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 27, 2011, 03:07:55 PM
just get a Flying V bruv, the 'shred V' has a whammy. Loads of the read routed '84 models were fitted with them too. there was also an epiphone gothic model with one too :)
As documented in the enormous, boring thread I posted last night, I went from a Tele to a V and loved it, so backing this suggestion.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Transcend on May 27, 2011, 03:17:46 PM
I will definitely second a V there are no better guitars out there for metal other than maybe an explorer.

And for some reason i own neither... i had best get my act together
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Philly Q on May 27, 2011, 03:24:38 PM
Vs are all very well, but it is getting a long way from the original idea.  :P

(Not that I would ever go off-topic like that....  :wink: )
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Spitfire on May 27, 2011, 03:27:00 PM
this retains the vintage look while doing metal...
(http://www.rumbleseatmusic.com/images/full%20size%201033w/61GibsonSGCustomWhite.jpg)
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 27, 2011, 03:37:06 PM
God I wish there was such a thing as a white SG custom with just two pickups. I'd be all sorts of all over that.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: gwEm on May 27, 2011, 03:37:55 PM
Vs are all very well, but it is getting a long way from the original idea.  :P

(Not that I would ever go off-topic like that....  :wink: )

What do you mean Philly? Vs are alot like Teles: two pickups, a neck, frets
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 27, 2011, 03:51:11 PM
(http://www.gear-vault.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/jim-root-fender-telecaster.jpg)

one of these?
Tell you what, reckon they've missed a trick there by not using a regular Tele scratchplate and positioning the vol. knob so it sits in the semicircular indent normally occupied by the control plate.
Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Philly Q on May 27, 2011, 04:38:31 PM
God I wish there was such a thing as a white SG custom with just two pickups. I'd be all sorts of all over that.

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238)

Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Jonny on May 27, 2011, 04:48:04 PM
God I wish there was such a thing as a white SG custom with just two pickups. I'd be all sorts of all over that.
I think he means white, not antique white. Furthermore SGs don't move me, EXCEPT for antique white, 3 PU ones :o

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238)


Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: richardjmorgan on May 27, 2011, 05:17:45 PM
God I wish there was such a thing as a white SG custom with just two pickups. I'd be all sorts of all over that.

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238 (http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=10092113575238)


1. OUCH. My bank balance is getting sore just looking at that.

2. Getting there, but it still has a silly wobbly tailpiece thing.

Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: doomcaster on May 28, 2011, 09:47:45 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I think I check out warmoth, and yes teles look odd in metal, but is looking different not the entire point?  :?

Title: Re: New guitar for metal?
Post by: Philly Q on May 28, 2011, 11:06:28 AM
Thanks for all the suggestions guys, I think I check out warmoth, and yes teles look odd in metal, but is looking different not the entire point?  :?

I don't think it's the entire point, is it?  But you're right, not everyone has to look like Kerry King.