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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Philly Q on June 04, 2011, 03:18:36 PM

Title: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Philly Q on June 04, 2011, 03:18:36 PM
I've always had a love-hate relationship with Les Pauls.  Love the look, love the sound, hate the weight and the big thick body.  Owned a few, sold them all.

Lately I've been going through a let's-give-an-LP-a-try-again phase, and for a while I've been scouring eBay for Orvilles, Grecos and the like, never quite finding one I was prepared to take the plunge on (or someone else beat me to it).  Then I stumbled on this one, at a price similar to the Japanese ones but without the hefty shipping costs or import charges.  Put a bid in, not really expecting to win, but lo and behold I was the only bidder (just equalled the reserve price, too).

It's a brand which will be familiar to Twinfan and Ian Price - a Signature.  A Signature SQT1-HB, to be precise, built at Fuji-gen Gakki in Japan and imported to the UK by Tanglewood.

Build quality is really, really good.  I'm assuming that quilt top is a foto-flame (foto-quilt?) or veneer, but I'm sure there's a proper maple top underneath it.  Body's two-piece, neck shape is sort of '50s-meets-'60s, neck joint (apparently) is long tenon.  Weight is manageable!  Comparing with my Japanese Epiphone Juniors, and looking at pictures of Epiphone "open-book headstock" and "Elitist" Les Pauls, I'm certain this is exactly the same guitar with a different headstock.  Of course the lack of a "name" reduces the value, but I'm not too bothered about that.

All in all, a good purchase I think, even if it was an unplanned one.  :D

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/IMGP3764.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/IMGP3765.jpg)
(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/IMGP3766.jpg)

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Post by: keith on June 04, 2011, 03:26:36 PM
Beaut top there Philly
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Post by: horsehead on June 04, 2011, 03:54:53 PM
Nice find Philly :)
Title: Re: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Philly Q on June 04, 2011, 04:06:20 PM
I need to get a good price for those Juniors on eBay now, don't I?  :wink:  :lol:
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Post by: 38thBeatle on June 04, 2011, 06:09:35 PM
Nice plank Philly.
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Post by: Ian Price on June 04, 2011, 07:00:15 PM
Nice one! Signature are great value for money.
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Post by: adamj on June 04, 2011, 07:42:46 PM
phwoar!
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Post by: JacksonRR on June 04, 2011, 07:50:49 PM
That's a really nice finish and top on that. Great acquisition!
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Post by: viking on June 04, 2011, 07:54:25 PM
Looks beautiful !Congrats for the find  8)!
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Post by: dave_mc on June 04, 2011, 08:11:01 PM
sweet :D

Never tried one but if it's made in fujigen it's probably gonna be pretty good at least :D
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Post by: Telerocker on June 04, 2011, 08:22:56 PM
That's certainly a very nice copy. Love the top.
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Post by: Brow on June 04, 2011, 08:33:44 PM
Looks great :)

My local shop has had a few of those in for a few years now. I keep meaning to try 1 but I'm worried I'll buy it if I do  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Philly Q on June 04, 2011, 08:39:13 PM
My local shop has had a few of those in for a few years now. I keep meaning to try 1 but I'm worried I'll buy it if I do  :lol:

Give 'em a go!

I'm not saying they're going to give Gibson Custom Shop (or, say, Feline!) a run for their money but on a bang-for-buck basis they're ridiculously good.  Which is why I love Japanese guitars!  :D


(How much are they charging, by the way?)
Title: Re: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Brow on June 04, 2011, 09:06:13 PM
Give 'em a go!

I'm not saying they're going to give Gibson Custom Shop (or, say, Feline!) a run for their money but on a bang-for-buck basis they're ridiculously good.  Which is why I love Japanese guitars!  :D

(How much are they charging, by the way?)

I don't have Gibson CS or Feline money, which is why I'm afraid I'll buy it if I like it and it seems cheap enough!  8)

I think they're upfor mid to high £300s.
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Post by: Philly Q on June 04, 2011, 09:36:39 PM
That's virtually giving them away...!  8)
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Post by: horsehead on June 05, 2011, 07:53:21 AM
I need to get a good price for those Juniors on eBay now, don't I?  :wink:  :lol:
I think the Tokai will cover that one eh :D

Still trying to russell up some money for the Orville
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Post by: Twinfan on June 05, 2011, 09:41:27 AM
Nice catch Philly - mine was a great guitar!
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Post by: Jonny on June 05, 2011, 10:59:16 AM
Ah, eBay where dreams can be answered and destroyed :B

Good find, Philly.
Title: Re: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Philly Q on June 05, 2011, 11:29:23 AM
Ah, eBay where dreams can be answered and destroyed :B

 :lol:

Nice catch Philly - mine was a great guitar!

Did you ever dismantle yours, Dave?  I'm curious to see if it really is a long tenon, and to see if the top's a fake, but I can't be bothered to take the strings off just yet!  :lol:
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Post by: Twinfan on June 05, 2011, 11:56:25 AM
Mine had a long tenon, full maple top, and a flame veneer  :)
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Post by: Philly Q on June 05, 2011, 12:10:54 PM
Veneer rather than foto-flame?

The reason I ask is, the eBay seller had a picture of this leaflet in their ad.  The quilt matches the top of my guitar, I'm quite sure - which would suggest a foto-quilt.  But I've seen pictures of other quilt-tops with completely different patterns.  So I think the leaflet may be my actual guitar, which is weird!  You can't tell so well from my photos, but the grain on the fretboard looks very similar too.

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/KGrHqMOKjEE3HtNSbPTBN2YMzzPZg_121.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/KGrHqUOKikE3HdbyVp8BN2YM1rg_121.jpg)
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Post by: Twinfan on June 05, 2011, 12:31:30 PM
It was a bit too alive for a photo-flame Phil, plus you could see the thickness of the veneer in the cavity.  A photo would be so thin to not be seen.
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Post by: Philly Q on June 05, 2011, 01:53:36 PM
Yeah, I see what you mean.  Those Edwards Potbellys I had a few years ago had foto-flame tops, and side-on you could only see them as a hair's-breadth line on top of the maple.
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Post by: doomcaster on June 05, 2011, 05:18:10 PM
nice looking axe
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Post by: James C on June 05, 2011, 08:13:41 PM
I always regret getting rid of my signature, they're great value for money and was vastly better (IMO) in terms of playability than the £3k slash signature model i recently tried out!
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Post by: PhilKing on June 06, 2011, 12:33:41 PM
Nice guitar Philly
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Post by: AndyR on June 06, 2011, 12:45:27 PM
Yeah, nice one :D

And no, you will never stop doing it! :lol:
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 06, 2011, 05:00:26 PM
Winner! :D
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Post by: andymac on June 11, 2011, 08:12:02 PM
That is nice.

Andy
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Post by: Johnny Mac on June 11, 2011, 10:46:22 PM
Looks nice Philly  :D
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Post by: gordiji on June 12, 2011, 03:34:37 PM
beautiful top, you can't go wrong for that price...... errhh.... how much?
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Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2011, 04:36:20 PM
beautiful top, you can't go wrong for that price...... errhh.... how much?

It was actually a bit more than the new ones Brow mentioned in his posts on the first page of this thread.  So even when I think I'm getting a bargain, I'm still an idiot.  :lol:  :roll:

It's a really nice guitar though.  The maple top gives some brightness, but the acoustic tone definitely has some "ring" about it.  I'm wondering if it's actually slightly chambered/weight relieved, even though according to the mythology it's solid.
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Post by: mikeluke on June 12, 2011, 07:57:23 PM
Value is in the eye of the GAS fanatic....

;-)
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Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2011, 09:04:27 PM
Value is in the eye of the GAS fanatic....

;-)

Very true!  :lol:

But I think I do have a tendency to pay over the odds - as proved by the fact that, even when I sell something I bought used, I still lose money on it.  Every single time.  :x

Today I managed to resist such GAS temptation.  I saw one of my old Edwards guitars for sale on eBay, and decided to buy it back - but only if it went for less than I sold it for.  It didn't, it went for loads more.  Bah.  :(
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Post by: Brow on June 12, 2011, 09:10:23 PM
It was actually a bit more than the new ones Brow mentioned in his posts on the first page of this thread.  So even when I think I'm getting a bargain, I'm still an idiot.  :lol:  :roll:

The 1s I saw in my local shop have been there years though, so maybe they'd lowered their prices to try to get rid of them?

If I needed another LP I'd be all over their honeyburst 1 like a rash!  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD..... will I ever stop doing this?
Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2011, 10:01:05 PM
Yeah, I'll come clean, mine was a round £400.  If I remember right, Twinfan got his a few years ago for about £379 (but it did have a set of Bulldogs or something in it).

Any way you slice it, ignoring the name on the headstock, it's a lot of guitar for the money.  :)



(Trouble is, now I'm getting GAS for a "real" Les Paul.....)
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Post by: mikeluke on June 12, 2011, 10:39:59 PM
If you are happy with the deal and the seller is happy with the deal, then probably not a bad thing.

Mike


PS - will watch out for it on Seconds Out in about 6 months (sorry, I must be confusing you with Dave...)

 :lol:
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Post by: Philly Q on June 12, 2011, 10:41:58 PM
PS - will watch out for it on Seconds Out in about 6 months (sorry, I must be confusing you with Dave...)

 :lol:

Oh, it's quite possible....  :lol:
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Post by: mikeluke on June 13, 2011, 11:56:41 AM
In fairness, you have quite a way to go....

;-)
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Post by: Philly Q on June 13, 2011, 12:35:22 PM
Only in individual guitar values, I think I'm well ahead on sheer numbers!  :oops:
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Post by: Twinfan on June 13, 2011, 06:05:14 PM
Indeed - Phil beats me in numbers!
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Post by: mikeluke on June 15, 2011, 06:24:29 PM
Come on, Dave! Took a while to elicit a response!

:-)