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Title: manowar
Post by: gwEm on June 14, 2011, 08:25:38 PM
now obviously, i appreciate the fine qualities of certain manowar tracks. but i do wonder many points about them. for example:

* are they serious?
* how popular are they.. really?
* has anyone been to a manowar concert? any good?
* can anyone sit through a whole album of their material?

my favourite manowar tracks are 'hail and kill', 'the gods made heavy metal' and 'die for metal', but i wouldn't really say i liked them as a band.

what are people saying to them?
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 14, 2011, 08:46:35 PM
I like them for comedy value. The fact they are serious makes it even more amusing.

I like some tracks. black wind fire & steel. The flight of the bumblebee bass cover is wild.
the vocals at the very start of blood of the kings (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2q5kidXHuo&feature=related) are also crazy.

I find all the talk of their gear being modded to be louder than everyone elses stuff, or them just being super loud a bit tedious.

EDIT: Warriors Prayer is a banger too.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Davey on June 14, 2011, 08:54:01 PM
1. they take themselves VERY VERY VERY seriously. Kill the infidels seriously.
2. The following they have is very devoted, but none have the IQ to see that they're utter cr@p, so just the retarded people of the metal community (which is quite large come to think of :P )
3. No, i haven't seen them live, nor do i wish to
4. I can't sit through one song, let alone two, so no.. i haven't heard an entire album :P


And a lot of people say they're utter shite in the musical department, also they're homophobic closet homos.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: nfe on June 14, 2011, 09:11:18 PM
now obviously, i appreciate the fine qualities of certain manowar tracks. but i do wonder many points about them. for example:

* are they serious?
* how popular are they.. really?
* has anyone been to a manowar concert? any good?
* can anyone sit through a whole album of their material?

*As Davey says, unbelievably serious. And massively up themselves. Will not play a festival if they aren't a headliner, which is why they don't appear at many, charge £300 for meet and greets (taking place in their required own, dedicated merch tent "The Kingdom of Steel: By The Fans, For The Fans", stipulations about the degrees by which any band playing before them must be quieter, come with Must-Be-Booked additional bands. Had a guy booked to do Manowar drum covers for main support in Birmingham not long ago. Bunch of wanks, essentially.

* Depends on the territory, very big in Germany and some other parts of Europe, sell out Academies for one-offs in the UK. Thin they're near nobodies in their native US, might be wrong.

* Yes. Well, a set at Hellfest in France. They played for three hours and it was awful. We watched a handful of tunes out of curiosity and fled to the campsite. Where you could still hear them clearly. Until 4am. Several lengthy tirades about metal during it, with obvious plants from the crowd getting up to worship them. "One Manowarrior is worth a thousand false-metal fans!" and so on.

* Gods no.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Davey on June 14, 2011, 09:20:43 PM
Heh, last year, after Metal Camp.. they had their own little festival. 1 day, i think 10 bands. They wanted 60€ for it. Really really shady tactics with ticket sales as well. I doubt a lot of people stuck around for it.
The festival was dubbed 'Magic Circle festival' .. It's sad really.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 14, 2011, 10:02:17 PM
I think they are cr@p...
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: HTH AMPS on June 14, 2011, 10:53:42 PM
vintage Manowar.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3J5psthAf8g&feature=related

I remember seeing them on The Power Hour back when I was at school (late 80s) and thought they were rubbish even then. 

and it gets worse, this recalls the "my solos are my trademark" scene in Spinal Tap... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BFxgk149xSQ&feature=related

Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 14, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
that was a terrible thing to watch. so many other videos that are the same standard as that. utter tripe.
his bass his weird looking too, like it has really light strings that are all really close together, neck looks super skinny too.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 15, 2011, 12:21:08 AM
His bass is disgusting!
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 15, 2011, 12:52:51 AM
I've just learnt something new, I like cr@p and I'm a Retard.      :D
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Philly Q on June 15, 2011, 01:08:27 AM
They are incredibly serious, and Joey DeMaio, in particular, is a totally humourless, complete and utter tool.  

I always got the impression original guitarist Ross the Boss didn't totally buy into the whole image and "mythology" (after all, he was in The Dictators which was a pretty cool band).  The current guy always looks very geeky and vaguely embarrassed to me.

I have sat through at least three whole albums - Battle Hymns, Into Glory Ride and Hail to England - but not since 1984.


(Edit:  Oops.  I've just looked through my old vinyl LPs and I actually have Fighting the World (1987)  :oops: )


Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Shag101 on June 15, 2011, 01:28:19 AM
Every one of us has heard the call
Brothers of true metal proud and standing tall
We know the power within us has brought us to this hall
There's magic in the metal there's magic in us all

Heavy metal or no metal at all whimps and posers leave the hall  :twisted:

Great drunk song

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKf4ab90v0k
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: AndyR on June 15, 2011, 08:14:15 AM
They are incredibly serious, and Joey DeMaio, in particular, is a totally humourless, complete and utter tool. 

You didn't shell out the £300 to find this out in person did you? :lol:

I remember them from back in the 80s, we thought they were very amusing. We even tried to write a few "Manowar" songs but couldn't... we concluded that we were taking it all too seriously... it seems now that mebbe we were wrong and weren't taking it seriously enough... (I had no idea that they weren't tongue in cheek until I read this thread!)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: gwEm on June 15, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
some incredible anecdotes here!
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 11:30:06 AM
I've always hated this sort of thing, but yeah... For some odd reason germans love this sort of drek.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Philly Q on June 15, 2011, 11:35:35 AM
They are incredibly serious, and Joey DeMaio, in particular, is a totally humourless, complete and utter tool. 

You didn't shell out the £300 to find this out in person did you? :lol:

God no.  But I did read a lot of interviews in the hundreds of issues of Kerrang! I bought before I finally got sick of it.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Madsakre on June 15, 2011, 11:37:24 AM
I like some of their stuff. I have most of their discography, due to my mom. My mom loves Heavy metal/hard rock stuff.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 11:38:00 AM
But technically there still is a tiny chance that they are the most subtle act of trolling in history.

At least I hope they're trolling.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Philly Q on June 15, 2011, 11:43:33 AM
I've always hated this sort of thing, but yeah... For some odd reason germans love this sort of drek.

No offence at all to any Germans on the forum, but they do seem to have a high tolerance of bands like Blind Guardian, Running Wild and all sorts of dodgy Power Metal.  I don't object to those bands musically, but their album artwork and lyrics...... men in their 40s singing about elves and pirates is a bit tough to take.  :|
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 11:48:33 AM
I've always hated this sort of thing, but yeah... For some odd reason germans love this sort of drek.

No offence at all to any Germans on the forum, but they do seem to have a high tolerance of bands like Blind Guardian, Running Wild and all sorts of dodgy Power Metal.  I don't object to those bands musically, but their album artwork and lyrics...... men in their 40s singing about elves and pirates is a bit tough to take.  :|

I believe Germany has a tolerance for all kinds of dubious music across all genres.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 11:49:05 AM
Well, yeah. Just look at the lineup for Wacken every year. Simply because it's in Germany, there's always so many of these atrocious power-metal bands. If only I had some explanation as to why that stuff is so huge there, I could somehow understand it, maybe even learn to live with it.

But as it is, I get allergic reaction from just being geographically close to Germany.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 11:51:34 AM
you're such a false metal poser. hail to germany!
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 11:56:31 AM
Well, that explains why I'm in what is basically a Hardcore band  :lol:
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: gwEm on June 15, 2011, 12:08:37 PM
Well, that explains why I'm in what is basically a Hardcore band  :lol:

when loomer says its over with, we know that its a lie
the Gods made heavy metal, and its never gonna die
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Alex on June 15, 2011, 12:08:50 PM
I believe Germany has a tolerance for all kinds of dubious music across all genres.

I believe many other nations are simply quite intolerant to other types of music! I found that very often with Americans and British people. That said, music in the UK is sooooooo mainstream anyway....
Ok, in all fairness, a lot of people in Europe/Germany don't get how embarrassing the lyrics of some of those bands like Hammerfall, Manowar, Primal Fear etc. are. Though... who reads the lyrics anyway?

About Manowar: They're 50% of where Spinal Tap came from, what do you expect? The rest of Spinal Tap is just various other rock elements thrown in there (Yoko Ono for example). I listen to Manowar's stuff from time to time (works for the gym!), but I don't take them any more serious than Lordi, The Darkness, Misfits, Dimmu Borgir, Kiss, Immortal and so on.....
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 12:15:01 PM

I don't think germany is more tolerant to types of music, I just think certain bands that aren't that good for whatever reason regardless of what style they play seem to get on well in germany, more so than in other places.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 12:22:15 PM
I will point out, that N'Sync broke Germany first, and then became well-known in the rest of the world after a year or so.

Hey, I was 10 years old. It was the only music on tv. Leave me alone..
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Afghan Dave on June 15, 2011, 12:41:13 PM
I believe Germany has a tolerance for all kinds of dubious music across all genres.

(http://www.janetcharltonshollywood.com/images/2010/01/75203772-David_Hasselhoff.0.0.0x0.400x372.jpeg)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 15, 2011, 12:48:01 PM
Ah, yes. Much better example.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Philly Q on June 15, 2011, 01:00:10 PM
But fair play, Germany gave us the Scorpions.  Hail to Germany indeed!  :D
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Madsakre on June 15, 2011, 02:34:26 PM
Germans are stupid, the jutters too.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: gwEm on June 15, 2011, 02:35:37 PM
But fair play, Germany gave us the Scorpions.  Hail to Germany indeed!  :D

and lets not forget these guys too:

(http://www.clashmusic.com/files/imagecache/big_node_view/files/images/kraftwerk.jpg)

I play most of my gigs in Germany, and agree that people have a different, and in some ways better and more open taste there - which I'm actually quite happy about. I wouldn't say they liked stuff that was actually bad though, but maybe there have a higher tolerance to cheesiness or something like that.

the attitude to music and live gigs there is quite brilliant, far better than the UK (but Dmoney knows this well of course)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 02:40:56 PM
germans have a cheese fetish. thats might be it. it's always been a good place to gig for me too, as it happens
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Philly Q on June 15, 2011, 03:04:49 PM
I play most of my gigs in Germany, and agree that people have a different, and in some ways better and more open taste there - which I'm actually quite happy about. I wouldn't say they liked stuff that was actually bad though, but maybe there have a higher tolerance to cheesiness or something like that.

the attitude to music and live gigs there is quite brilliant, far better than the UK (but Dmoney knows this well of course)

Maybe they're just less pre-occupied with being hipandcool than we Brits are (or whatever the current term for hipandcool is....)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 03:16:33 PM
It is a great place to go and play from my experience. I've had a bad time there too, but for the most part got places to sleep, got fed, generally been looked after really really well there. I think the weird goings on I know about kinda surrounding what I was involved with there are really the exception to what is otherwise a great place.

I know some bands that you could draw parallels between manowar and themselves, just with different lyrical content and a different image but just as serious. Every 'scene' has a manowar in it's closet, waiting to burst out.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Transcend on June 15, 2011, 03:30:33 PM
. Every 'scene' has a manowar in it's closet, waiting to burst out.

I love how utterly camp you made that sound :D

I have a friend who has had terrible look over here gig wise but has been over to germany quite a few times and got a great reception.

And he is just an acoustic solo act (with incredibly cheesy & terrible vocals)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Dmoney on June 15, 2011, 03:32:26 PM
i find a lot of UK promoters I've dealt with don't really care about UK bands. They get away with it because a lot of bands never realise they are being taken advantage off. That probably happens in germany too, but I've never really felt like I've experienced it there.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: gwEm on June 15, 2011, 03:44:39 PM
Quote from: PhillyQ
Maybe they're just less pre-occupied with being hipandcool than we Brits are (or whatever the current term for hipandcool is....)

Germans are really into a good party! I love the place to bits myself.

I know some bands that you could draw parallels between manowar and themselves, just with different lyrical content and a different image but just as serious. Every 'scene' has a manowar in it's closet, waiting to burst out.

Am tempted to say 'Scooter' here, but I know they don't take themselves that seriously.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: HTH AMPS on June 15, 2011, 05:33:50 PM
But fair play, Germany gave us the Scorpions.  Hail to Germany indeed!  :D

and Die Toten Hosen...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm84cBZNZQo

Title: Re: manowar
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 15, 2011, 08:51:59 PM
I believe Germany has a tolerance for all kinds of dubious music across all genres.

David_Hasselhoff.jpeg

I'm not sure if I can forgive you by subtly encourage us to search this on Youtube... This is a new standard on evil!
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: shobet on June 15, 2011, 09:15:24 PM
The Germans have better beer than us.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: HTH AMPS on June 15, 2011, 09:27:14 PM
The Germans have better beer than us.

really?  :?

I think you're drinking the wrong stuff - we have loads of great real ale in the UK.  I'm not a fan of that German lager-beer stuff or even the white-beers.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: shobet on June 15, 2011, 10:57:07 PM
The Germans have better beer than us.
really?  :?

I think you're drinking the wrong stuff - we have loads of great real ale in the UK.  I'm not a fan of that German lager-beer stuff or even the white-beers.

Yes really! I'm particularly fond of Bavarian brews. Oh and it's cheaper and less full of shite than uk beer. Don't get me wrong there a great ales to be had in the UK, I just think the Germans do it better.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Keven on June 16, 2011, 02:54:49 AM
London Porter is great beer, in UK's defense. actually any fuller is pretty good!

to the manowar subject i must direct you to nanowar

nanowar play all other bands gay

XD
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Madsakre on June 16, 2011, 08:24:25 AM
German beer? I dont know any good beer from germany. Britain is my fav place for beer production
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 16, 2011, 09:03:45 AM
If a pub or club has no cold Newcastle Brown ale in glass, you will not find me in there.
Bottle of Dog is the brew for me I can't or won't drink anything else and Jim Beam Bourbon and Jack Daniels.
Some one told me Manowar were on Tizwas many moons ago, do's anybody remember what song they played,
I wonder if it was Battle Hymn.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Roobubba on June 16, 2011, 09:57:20 AM
Dog is all right, but it's not a great beer by a long shot.

The UK has some fantastic beers. Okay, not so many if you're a lager drinker (I can't stand the stuff, personally), but even then there are some top notch UK lager-style beers. Circle master from Wychwood breweries, for example.

Not against Germany, though - there are some really nice Dunkelbiers that I like a lot. Would love to play over there some time, getting a decent crowd would be great!

Roo
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Roobubba on June 16, 2011, 09:58:27 AM
PS never listened to manowar.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: HTH AMPS on June 16, 2011, 10:34:05 AM
its all the big-brand ales that are full of cr@p - I'm talking small independents who you find in the better real ale pubs.  We have Wylam, Jarrow Brewery and Mordue up here (off the top of my head) who are all great.

Title: Re: manowar
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 16, 2011, 11:31:45 AM
its all the big-brand ales that are full of cr@p

I've just finished a project which is going to allow a certain UK brewer to dramatically increase it's capacity for brewing (really shitee) beer.  Nearly broke my heart.

I think the Germans do some mighty fine lagers (it's even a German word), so they must know a thing or two about it.  I'm not a massive lager fan, but there are some good ones out there.  It has a bit of a bad name nowadays as the mast produced, quickly brewed piss water has taken over the market (Lager means 'to store'), but if you look hard enough you can find something nice.  M&S have one in a green bottle (Czech I think) that's really good.

But I'm with most people on here, I drink ale and think manowar are cr@p  :lol:
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Madsakre on June 16, 2011, 11:51:55 AM
Back in the days when i still drank alcohol, i really liked the products from hophead brewery.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: James C on June 16, 2011, 01:14:06 PM
Normally a Guinness ("original") or Newcaslte Brown man if i cant find a nice ale, but I'll often pick up some of the wychwood ales for consumption at home. my brother has taken delivery of a 35 pint barrel of real ale  from his local for his birthday bash this weekend, hopefully its a good'un.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Loomer on June 16, 2011, 01:22:27 PM
Back in the days when i still drank alcohol, i really liked the products from hophead brewery.

What, you mean two weeks ago?!  :lol:
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 21, 2011, 06:52:00 AM
Last night I sh1t the bed.
Got so drunk I think I gave a dude head.
Life is just a merciful blur.
When you pop a Pisswasser.

Pisswasser, don't drink it slow.
3 a.m. buy some blow.
Sleep in the bathroom on the floor.
What really matters anymore ?

All the cr@p you, do all day.
Who f~~king cares anyway ? !

Pisswasser, this is beer !
Drive drunk off a pier !
It helps your troubles blow away, yeah yeah !

PISSWASSER: Cheap german lager for export only.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: WezV on June 21, 2011, 07:23:01 AM
its all the big-brand ales that are full of cr@p

I've just finished a project which is going to allow a certain UK brewer to dramatically increase it's capacity for brewing (really shiteee) beer.  Nearly broke my heart.


I am now working for the enemy - that big brewer that took over from bass.  in fairness they seem a relatively good company to work for, but i still don't like their bloody beers   (apart from worthington white shield).  shame really because they have a free bar after 4.30 on thursdays and fridays  :(

it does mean i can pop to burton bridge brewery for a lunchtime pint though
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 21, 2011, 12:44:05 PM
That sucks man.  Good to hear you have a new job though, hope it's going well.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: WezV on June 21, 2011, 05:21:18 PM
nah, its all good really.  they pay reasonably well, i have claimed a lot of my life outside of work back and it still feels like i made the right choice to leave teaching... just got to make sure i still feel that way in a year or two ;)
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 21, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
Sure it will work out mate.

If it's any consolation, I'm stuck in a career and in an industry that I should have got out of years ago and it sucks like woman in an Afgan Dave comment.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: FernandoDuarte on June 21, 2011, 10:26:23 PM
Sure it will work out mate.

If it's any consolation, I'm stuck in a career and in an industry that I should have got out of years ago and it sucks like woman in an Afgan Dave comment.

I'm on the same... I work in shifts, got paid more the double payment than my brother who is making PhD, works in a technical school and soon shall work in a university...
But I hate my work... I don't stop making plans to leave... Hopefully will be able soon...

On the good side, as I pay everymonth a few bucks for "Great Risk" on the health plan, my surgery I had to pay nothing and will pay nothing on the one that is being scheduled...
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 22, 2011, 03:41:40 AM
Quote
I'm stuck in a career and in an industry that I should have got out of years ago and it sucks
What don't like your jobs ? Go buy yourself's a nice big crate of PISSWASSER.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: ToneMonkey on June 22, 2011, 10:40:54 AM
I've recently got the taste for Gin, which numbs the pain somewhat.

Anyway, I took my business plan to the bank yesterday, so hopefully I'll be able to get that off the ground and then a couple of years later I can leave this place.  There's a hint of light at the end of the tunnel.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 23, 2011, 07:15:26 PM
Hmmm :roll:  A man with a plan ?  Well I hope it all works out well for you mate.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: mark520 on June 27, 2011, 07:45:51 AM
I think all the talk about their own equipment to be converted into a loud things than everyone elses, or they were super loud just a little boring.
Title: Re: manowar
Post by: Oroficus on June 29, 2011, 05:11:17 PM
I think all the talk about their own equipment to be converted into a loud things than everyone elses, or they were super loud just a little boring.

When I first saw the above quote, it stopped me in my tracks. I just did not get it.
So I sat there pondering to myself as to what thread that post actually belongs to. I assumed you had miss-posted it Mark.
After 4 or 5 mins of sitting there going "Hmmmm" and scratching my head. THE LIGHTS CAME ON IN THE HOUSE !!!   of course you are quite right sir MANOWAR it's a thread all about  MANOWAR and there's me thinking all that time, that it's a thread all about BEER and BEER DRINKING !!!

Yes I agree totally stupid boring irresponsible mindless. Whatever must they be thinking wanting to be louder than everyone else, what sort of example are they setting for the youth of the day?
Stupid stupid, filthy filthy, mindless moronic cretins shame on them all.