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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Telerocker on June 16, 2011, 05:00:53 PM

Title: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 16, 2011, 05:00:53 PM: Could not resist the gas for 750 euro, case + candy included and set up by a guitartech. Well you all see it's a Fender Standard HSS-strat, ash body in sienna sunburst. The guitar is in very mint condition, has a great ''ring'' and plays like a dream (for a strat). Trem works good for a vintagewhammy. It has - when you examine it thoroughly - some little scratches in the toplacquer.
This one has the S1-switch. I don't know if this a pre, but it has nine sounds on tap which makes it versatile. The bridgesaddles have been replaced by graptechs, I think. The former owner didn't know exactly, bec he leaves everything to his guitartech, he says. The singlecoils have staggered polepieces and that looks strange to me with a 9.5 radius. Don't know if these are TexMex. The owner didn't know either.
Anyway, maybe I BKP this one too, like my swampash customstrat. That one has Crawler/IT's. I want something different, but versatile (I play in a coverband, everything from Kravitz to Beyoncé) . I'm thinking Mule/Mother's Milk. Any other ideas?
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Philly Q on June 16, 2011, 05:12:45 PM: Lovely colour, and I always like the look of ash. :D

I don't think those are Graph Tech saddles, they look like regular Fender American Standard saddles to me.

Don't know about the pickups....VHII maybe? That's always seemed like a good Strat humbucker, but it might be quite bright.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 16, 2011, 05:34:58 PM: Thx Philly, I love ash too, also the tonal qualities and it's not too heavy (at least this one)

This weekend we rehearse and then I will AB it with my other strat, to know which one is brighter. Can't really play amplified at home since the neighbours have a baby.

The VHII seems appealing. I like most of the clips, but the VHII has serious highs so maybe this one is a little too bright for ash.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Jazz Rock on June 16, 2011, 11:28:41 PM: That is one beautiful guitar you scored. Very well done.

Can't really help you on pickups for a strat unfortunately, but I really like this burst finish over the ash body. I was after an ash body telecaster when I was in the market for a tele, but the change to the new standard model caught me short. I am not too keen on the neck finish, so I had to score an old model before they all went out, got a good price, but it had to be an alder one. I do love the sound of my tele but when I tried teles before, they always seem to have a nicer voice. Haven't tried an ash body tele since I bought mine... maybe out of fear that I would indeed feel the ash tele would have been a better choice...
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 01:07:03 AM: Quote from: Jazz Rock on June 16, 2011, 11:28:41 PM
That is one beautiful guitar you scored. Very well done.

Can't really help you on pickups for a strat unfortunately, but I really like this burst finish over the ash body. I was after an ash body telecaster when I was in the market for a tele, but the change to the new standard model caught me short. I am not too keen on the neck finish, so I had to score an old model before they all went out, got a good price, but it had to be an alder one. I do love the sound of my tele but when I tried teles before, they always seem to have a nicer voice. Haven't tried an ash body tele since I bought mine... maybe out of fear that I would indeed feel the ash tele would have been a better choice...

All these American Series-models, tele and strat, have satin finished necks and rolled fretboards, which plays very comfortable. I love ash for the punch and clarity. This guitar is mediumheavy, my Patrick Eggle-made MXG strat is swampash and a bit lighter. My alder American Series Tele is the heaviest of the bunch, but still not a heavyweight. Btw, I like that tele a lot.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: hunter on June 17, 2011, 06:20:52 AM: Black scratch plate and a holy diver?

;)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Gizmo on June 17, 2011, 12:40:46 PM: Is that a std or a deluxe model? I looks like a deluxe model which has the 2 point pivot trem and S1? + its one of the colours for the deluxe range. if so thats a bargain. nice guitar.

SM - Apache - Apache would be a good combinatation
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: keith on June 17, 2011, 01:16:35 PM: Nice plank there Tele :D :D :D
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Andrew W on June 17, 2011, 01:33:24 PM: Lovely looking guitar. If it were me I'd consider a covered humbucker too. I always thought these looked cool:

(http://espguitar.net/files/2010/08/-33531504781578760.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Jazz Rock on June 17, 2011, 01:40:43 PM: Quote from: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 01:07:03 AM

All these American Series-models, tele and strat, have satin finished necks and rolled fretboards, which plays very comfortable.

Do they? I remember going to the shop to try them out teh week they came out, and the ones I tried felt like there was a bit more of a build up to the finish on the neck in comparison to the previous version. I am intrigued now, I'll need to check them again... not that I would be in a position to buy a new tele though :lol:

To come back to your new guitar, I wouldn't make much change on the cosmetic. It is just gorgeous as it stands.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 02:01:19 PM: Quote from: Gizmo on June 17, 2011, 12:40:46 PM
Is that a std or a deluxe model? I looks like a deluxe model which has the 2 point pivot trem and S1? + its one of the colours for the deluxe range. if so thats a bargain. nice guitar.

SM - Apache - Apache would be a good combinatation

It's not a Deluxe. It has not the chrome logo. Sienna Sunburst was available on the standard. HSS-models had the S1-switch, which was dropped on the standard in 2008, I believe.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 02:02:55 PM: Quote from: Andrew W on June 17, 2011, 01:33:24 PM
Lovely looking guitar. If it were me I'd consider a covered humbucker too. I always thought these looked cool:

(http://espguitar.net/files/2010/08/-33531504781578760.jpg)

This one looks like Rory went into metal. :) a chrome cover definitely looks cool.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 02:05:40 PM: Quote from: Jazz Rock on June 17, 2011, 01:40:43 PM
Quote from: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 01:07:03 AM

All these American Series-models, tele and strat, have satin finished necks and rolled fretboards, which plays very comfortable.

Do they? I remember going to the shop to try them out teh week they came out, and the ones I tried felt like there was a bit more of a build up to the finish on the neck in comparison to the previous version. I am intrigued now, I'll need to check them again... not that I would be in a position to buy a new tele though :lol:

To come back to your new guitar, I wouldn't make much change on the cosmetic. It is just gorgeous as it stands.
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Cheers! The neckfinish feels exactly the same as my 2000 American Series Tele. I believe this strat is from 2003.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: dave_mc on June 17, 2011, 02:55:48 PM: Quote from: Philly Q on June 16, 2011, 05:12:45 PM
Lovely colour, and I always like the look of ash. :D
+1, always liked that colour- bit different from the vintage colours, but not crazy either.

Sweet guitar.

I'll leave the pickup suggestions to other people :)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 03:24:00 PM: I've got an unfinished swamp ash Strat body at home - I'm getting Sienna Sunburst GAS!

One thing I've never gleaned in my years on this forum is a good place to get (re)finishes done....
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: AndyR on June 17, 2011, 03:54:26 PM: Quote from: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 03:24:00 PM
I've got an unfinished swamp ash Strat body at home - I'm getting Sienna Sunburst GAS!

One thing I've never gleaned in my years on this forum is a good place to get (re)finishes done....

Speak to Jonathan - find out where he gets his done.

I seem to remember a year or so back that Wez found someone that does nice finishes as well? I think the guy was just starting out on guitars after doing paint jobs on something else.

EDIT: Just realised I haven't commented on the guitar in this thread - looked at it several times - very nice telerocker :D (even if it does have a humbucker and a two point trem and too many frets! :lol: :wink:)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 03:57:58 PM: Yeah, you're right, that does ring a bell. The finishes on Jon's guitars always look great, I wonder what his guy would charge?
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: choucas09 on June 17, 2011, 04:38:40 PM: Lovely Strat, I'd have dead chuffed to have scored that. The suggestion for a nickel cover HB was interesting. It certainly looked funky. Then I thought that would super cool if the SC's had nickel covers too. I don't know if such a thing exists though. Maybe Trussart has done it.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 04:50:47 PM: Quote from: AndyR on June 17, 2011, 03:54:26 PM
Quote from: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 03:24:00 PM
I've got an unfinished swamp ash Strat body at home - I'm getting Sienna Sunburst GAS!

One thing I've never gleaned in my years on this forum is a good place to get (re)finishes done....

Speak to Jonathan - find out where he gets his done.

I seem to remember a year or so back that Wez found someone that does nice finishes as well? I think the guy was just starting out on guitars after doing paint jobs on something else.

EDIT: Just realised I haven't commented on the guitar in this thread - looked at it several times - very nice telerocker :D (even if it does have a humbucker and a two point trem and too many frets! :lol: :wink:)

:) It's def. not a vintageplank, but comfy / versatile for three/four sets nonstop covers. Anyway, thx for all the kind replies and reccommendations. I'm thinking about VHII/ MM's.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 17, 2011, 04:53:27 PM: Quote from: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 03:57:58 PM
Yeah, you're right, that does ring a bell. The finishes on Jon's guitars always look great, I wonder what his guy would charge?

PM him and you know :)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: dave_mc on June 17, 2011, 09:03:44 PM: don't most of the luthiers use sims, philly? could be wrong, but i know legra did and i have a vague recollection (probably wrong :oops: ) that feline used them too...
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Philly Q on June 17, 2011, 09:44:40 PM: Quote from: dave_mc on June 17, 2011, 09:03:44 PM
don't most of the luthiers use sims, philly? could be wrong, but i know legra did and i have a vague recollection (probably wrong :oops: ) that feline used them too...

You could be right, Dave. I've looked at their website a few times, and they do good work.... but it ain't cheap! :?
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: dave_mc on June 17, 2011, 10:41:00 PM: yeah that's true. :(
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: PhilKing on June 18, 2011, 11:00:44 AM: It looks very nice. For an HSS set, my favourite is Stormy Monday 2 Sultans. It is a great set for all classic rock stuff and is versatile enough to go from blues through funk to hard rock/light metal. I have a VHII with my Mother's Milks in an alder body strat. My swamp ash is an 80's machine with a Holy Diver and 2 Trilogy Suites - that could be a good combination for you too.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 18, 2011, 12:58:25 PM: Quote from: PhilKing on June 18, 2011, 11:00:44 AM
It looks very nice. For an HSS set, my favourite is Stormy Monday 2 Sultans. It is a great set for all classic rock stuff and is versatile enough to go from blues through funk to hard rock/light metal. I have a VHII with my Mother's Milks in an alder body strat. My swamp ash is an 80's machine with a Holy Diver and 2 Trilogy Suites - that could be a good combination for you too.

I like the Diver, but don't know about the Trilogy Suites. I need that vintage singlecoilquack for all the old funk-stuff. The bucker should rock out for searing solo's in a PAF-ish way. That's why I thought VHII/MM's.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on June 29, 2011, 05:25:24 PM: Just ordered a chromecovered VHII and two Mother's Milk in white for the strat.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: viking on June 30, 2011, 12:08:11 AM: Quote from: Telerocker on June 29, 2011, 05:25:24 PM
Just ordered a chromecovered VHII and two Mother's Milk in white for the strat.
That should be great,i think 8)! NB:Always listen to PhilKing's advice ,knows his BKP's very well indeed :-)
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on July 27, 2011, 09:40:00 PM: It's done: VHII + Mother's Milk in my ash American Series strat. The VHII is bally's with nice chime too it. The Mother's Milk have this early sixties woodiness. The neckpickup is too die for. The in-between-sounds are very Fenderish, quacky and sparkly.
Further: customshop cts-pots and cloth wire.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Twinfan on July 27, 2011, 11:07:20 PM: Looks great fella!
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: viking on July 27, 2011, 11:50:27 PM: Mmmmm, lovely :)!Would love to try it....
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on July 28, 2011, 12:30:55 AM: Cheers bro's. I was anxious how VHII/MM-middle would balance in split-mode. Quite good actually. There is nevertheless a serious volumedrop when going from hb to splitmode. More then on my swampashstrat with Crawler/IT's. But it is acceptable and the splitsound has enough meat.
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Philly Q on July 28, 2011, 12:38:20 AM: So looking at the "standard" HSS sets on the BKP product pages, they're VHII/IT and Crawler/MM - you've got the opposite! Good choice, or would you be tempted to try swapping them round?
Title: Re: NGD + recommendation
Post by: Telerocker on July 28, 2011, 12:51:52 AM: Not for the moment, since it's just wired. But it's possible and the sc's all have white covers. But, I can't see why the Crawler could not match IT's and the VHII not the MM's. The Crawler has serious mids and the IT's have more mids then the MM's. The VHII has more chime/ a brighter topend then the Crawler and I think that's not a bad combo with the brighter MM's.
I'm very pleased with the Crawler/IT's combo in that particular guitar. I just wanted something different for this guitar, another sonic inspiration. The VHII sounded great on a Marshall JVM (not my amp and not my favorite at all. just for a quick test). I will test the bucker soon on my Rockerverb 50 head/cab and experiment a bit with the height. The MM's are really great for Frusciante-tones. They have more woodiness then IT's. Didn't test them with overdrive. I let you know.