Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: wolfenstein on June 21, 2011, 07:22:03 PM
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Hi to everyone...I got MM for my all mahogany Viper and Iīm realy happy with tone..It sound acurate when I play through my Krank Revolution+ head because it has ton of mids and itīs bright and chunky...I want next BK humbucker for my another guitar which is all mahogany as well but I use it often with my other amp Framus Dragon which is quite dark..So Iīm looking for pickups with nearly same character as MM but with more mids...I play mostly HC/Thrash/Death stuff and I love chunky palm mute rifs like S.O.D...Anthrax...Exodus....I think that Aftermath or Painkiller but you know..I need some help....Thank you....
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Simply have an alnico V magnet in a Miracle Man instead of the Ceramic and the mids will be much higher with less bass and a little less treble.
In fact you could just use a neck position MM in the bridge as it is pretty much the same spec winding.
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Simply have an alnico V magnet in a Miracle Man instead of the Ceramic and the mids will be much higher with less bass and a little less treble.
In fact you could just use a neck position MM in the bridge as it is pretty much the same spec winding.
i want one of those too xD
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Simply have an alnico V magnet in a Miracle Man instead of the Ceramic and the mids will be much higher with less bass and a little less treble.
In fact you could just use a neck position MM in the bridge as it is pretty much the same spec winding.
I actually asked Tim about that and said that the neck MM for the bridge would be "too sweet and polite" for agressive styles.
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Hm..Alnico..I have tried before alnico Nailbomb and I wasnīt very impressed..Too dark for my taste..I like heavy sound clip of Holy Diver but it wouldnīt work in mahogany.I would better stay with ceramic..What you guys think about Aftermath in dark mahogany guitar?
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The aftermath works very well in mahogany.
however it isnt like the miracle man.
its very dry and middy with considerably less bass & high end.
It is a very balanced clean & precise sound that is not as saturated as the miracle man.
I asked Tim about getting a custom pup that had the aggression & snarl of the MM whilst retaining the lows & highs but having the mids and precision of the aftermath and he said i had just described the painkiller.
I prefer it in basswood to mahogany though i feel it has a lot more grunt.
What i do with my MM equipped mahogany guitar when i want more mids is either turn the mids up
or use my ts808 to boost the mids and cut the lows some.
The high end on the MM alone should be perfectly fine for a dark amp.
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Maybe a ceramic Nailbomb, although I haven't tried that pickup.
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The aftermath works very well in mahogany.
however it isnt like the miracle man.
its very dry and middy with considerably less bass & high end.
It is a very balanced clean & precise sound that is not as saturated as the miracle man.
I asked Tim about getting a custom pup that had the aggression & snarl of the MM whilst retaining the lows & highs but having the mids and precision of the aftermath and he said i had just described the painkiller.
Maybe I shoud go for Painkiler..As someone said PK is oposite of MM in therm of mids..
MM-lower mids
PK-upper mids
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Yeah i can't say whether you should go for the PK as i havent tried it personally
it is on my list though
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Pretty sure you want a Painkiller, from what you've described.
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I asked Tim about getting a custom pup that had the aggression & snarl of the MM whilst retaining the lows & highs but having the mids and precision of the aftermath and he said i had just described the painkiller.
If somebody described the PK to me like that, I'd want one too for the first time...
a lot more sense in that than in the ususal "Painkiller... piercing upper mid, djent, djent, djent" talk.
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I asked Tim about getting a custom pup that had the aggression & snarl of the MM whilst retaining the lows & highs but having the mids and precision of the aftermath and he said i had just described the painkiller.
If somebody described the PK to me like that, I'd want one too for the first time...
a lot more sense in that than in the ususal "Painkiller... piercing upper mid, djent, djent, djent" talk.
Yeah..Thatīs reason why I wasnīt 100% sure about Painkiller because I know that some people donīt like his sharp highs even thin sound....But itīs always summary of factors as guitar body material,amp,speakers etc....I think that it will work properly in my guitar....
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imho, the painkiller begins to shine when you tune lower, due to the tight bottom end. Its a tad too much in std tuned guitars. From C and below its just godly.
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I asked Tim about getting a custom pup that had the aggression & snarl of the MM whilst retaining the lows & highs but having the mids and precision of the aftermath and he said i had just described the painkiller.
If somebody described the PK to me like that, I'd want one too for the first time...
a lot more sense in that than in the ususal "Painkiller... piercing upper mid, djent, djent, djent" talk.
yeah the usual talk is the reason why i still havent owned one today it just puts me off
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"imho, the painkiller begins to shine when you tune lower, due to the tight bottom end. Its a tad too much in std tuned guitars. From C and below its just godly."
I have to agree with this. I have a set of painkillers (my first BKP) in a Mahogany body, super-strat, with a maple neck and rosewood fret board. I use to tune it to C, but now to B-standard; and it sounds very godly! Especially when the speakers on my cab start to break up.
If you tune to C-standard, I think you will really like the painkiller.
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"imho, the painkiller begins to shine when you tune lower, due to the tight bottom end. Its a tad too much in std tuned guitars. From C and below its just godly."
I have to agree with this. I have a set of painkillers (my first BKP) in a Mahogany body, super-strat, with a maple neck and rosewood fret board. I use to tune it to C, but now to B-standard; and it sounds very godly! Especially when the speakers on my cab start to break up.
If you tune to C-standard, I think you will really like the painkiller.
I tune to C sharp sometimes to C but allways droped...No doubt PK is made for me...
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"Yeah..Thatīs reason why I wasnīt 100% sure about Painkiller because I know that some people donīt like his sharp highs even thin sound....But itīs always summary of factors as guitar body material,amp,speakers etc....I think that it will work properly in my guitar...."
To my ears the Painkiller's highs really weren't that sharp and definitely not piercing. I mean they were compared to other Bare Knuckle Pickups, but BKP's have much smoother highs than most other brands of pickups (even other boutique brands), which I actually really dislike. When I play on the bridge I want sharp, aggressive highs and the Painkiler barely had enough for my taste. Don't get me wrong, I love BKP, but I wish they had pick ups that sounded more raw and ballsy, as opposed to the overly refined and polished sound they generally have, which I think takes away from the aggression. So, basically unless you're a real pussy about shrill high end, the Painkiller should be great.
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I found thread on Sevenstring.org about custom order alnico 8 Painkiller...The guy wrote:
"" Being the Painkiller, I expected it to be very articulate and tight, with total aggression. I did request the magnet to be an Alnico 8 versus the stock ceramic as I have fallen in love with the sound of the A8 magnets. The result is a very, very dynamic pickup with an aggressive stance, but still soft spoken. When you dig in it sings, but it doesnt get extremely vocal like my full shreds do. It retains every bit of character, a very 3D sound. The only other time I have heard what people call 3D is on the clean channel. This pickup just has an incredible range of tone, and the balancing act is what makes it sound so great.""
Time to send mail to Tim...
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Simply have an alnico V magnet in a Miracle Man instead of the Ceramic and the mids will be much higher with less bass and a little less treble.
In fact you could just use a neck position MM in the bridge as it is pretty much the same spec winding.
Funnily enough I have one of those for sale!
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24425.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24425.0)
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Simply have an alnico V magnet in a Miracle Man instead of the Ceramic and the mids will be much higher with less bass and a little less treble.
In fact you could just use a neck position MM in the bridge as it is pretty much the same spec winding.
Funnily enough I have one of those for sale!
http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24425.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=24425.0)
Iīd stay with ceramic mate...But thanx for offer...On 95 % Iīm going for Painkiller...The 5% is when I seep I dream about Aftermath :band4:
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That sounds like more than 5% to me.
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That sounds like more than 5% to me.
Yeah youīre right...I still have not decided which one...That youtube clip /bellow/ push me to think go for Aftermath....Compare to Painkiller it has less low end and less top end...In fact is a bit dry but nice agressive mid crunchy...My Framus Dragon has ton of low end even with deep knob off and also has kinda "mesish" sizzly top end that can be pretty bright....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cECru2W24w4&NR=1