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Title: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 07, 2011, 06:06:43 PM
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News of the World to close amid hacking scandal This Sunday's issue of the News of the World will be the last edition of the paper, News International chairman James Murdoch has said.

In the past few days, claims have been made that the paper authorised hacking into the mobile phone of murdered schoolgirl Milly Dowler, the families of 7/7 bombing victims and bereaved military families.

Sky News said proceeds from the paper's last edition would be given to good causes.

In a statement made to staff, Mr Murdoch said the good things the News of the World does "have been sullied by behaviour that was wrong - indeed, if recent allegations are true, it was inhuman and has no place in our company".

"The News of the World is in the business of holding others to account. But it failed when it came to itself."

How long till The Sun on Sunday starts with all the same staff? Not long.

One suspects there will now be zero fallout with the paper gone, and everyone gets off scot free. Hurrah for justice.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Twinfan on July 07, 2011, 06:35:09 PM
My thoughts exactly nfe.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 07, 2011, 06:52:54 PM
+1 to the above. I'm just wondering how long it will be until some of those involved ask the press to respect their privacy at this difficult time.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 07, 2011, 06:53:49 PM
Glenn Mulcaire already has. Well, asked for people to respect his family's privacy.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Afghan Dave on July 07, 2011, 07:04:17 PM
All the 250 "workers" who had nothing to do with the disgusting practices are now out of a job until they are possibly re-hired on less money / pension to work in the same building producing - "The Sun Day" paper....

James Murdoch and Rebekah Brooks enjoy total security while daddy Rupert gets his BSKYB purchase waived through without interruption.

Parliament + CEO = SH!TBAGS the lot of them..

Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 07, 2011, 07:12:04 PM
Glenn Mulcaire already has. Well, asked for people to respect his family's privacy.

Jesus - that's even more hypocritical! Outrageous.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 07, 2011, 07:33:29 PM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: HTH AMPS on July 07, 2011, 09:04:29 PM
its an empty victory, for all the reasons already stated.

boils my pi*ss  :x
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Philly Q on July 07, 2011, 09:05:51 PM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.

It's all so utterly cynical isn't it?

And despite all the talk on the news about it tarnishing Murdoch's image, I don't doubt for a second that he'll complete the BSkyB takeover without a hitch.


On one level, I'm a little sad to see the end of the News of the World - OK, it was a scurrilous rag but that's 168 years of history ended just like that.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Matt77 on July 07, 2011, 10:29:41 PM
I may sound harsh here, but I have no sympathy for anyone that works for the News of the World.
I feel sorry for the newsagents.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: MrBump on July 07, 2011, 10:39:49 PM
Hack journalists breaking laws and acting in bad taste.

Police taking bribes.

Murdoch acting like a c*nt.

News, anyone?
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 07, 2011, 11:59:55 PM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.

Just a though, the advertisers that pulled out of NOTW to protect their brands from the scandal, can they really just go over to the Sun on Sunday when everybody knows it's just going to be notw reincarnate?
Most notw reaaders might be happy to buy the Sun on Sunday but without the advertisers on board it won't succeed. The situation is unprecidented, I'm not so sure the outcome will be so predictable.

I bet it will end up as a film one day...
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: shobet on July 08, 2011, 12:16:58 AM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.

Just a though, the advertisers that pulled out of NOTW to protect their brands from the scandal, can they really just go over to the Sun on Sunday when everybody knows it's just going to be notw reincarnate?
Most notw reaaders might be happy to buy the Sun on Sunday but without the advertisers on board it won't succeed. The situation is unprecidented, I'm not so sure the outcome will be so predictable.

I bet it will end up as a film one day...


I bet 20th century fox won't make it!
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 08, 2011, 12:47:33 AM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.

Just a though, the advertisers that pulled out of NOTW to protect their brands from the scandal, can they really just go over to the Sun on Sunday when everybody knows it's just going to be notw reincarnate?
Most notw reaaders might be happy to buy the Sun on Sunday but without the advertisers on board it won't succeed. The situation is unprecidented, I'm not so sure the outcome will be so predictable.

I bet it will end up as a film one day...


Well only Ford had actually pulled anything, I believe? And that was only a suspension of advertising "pending TNOTW's own investigation". Everyone else was only considering removing adds. And nobody had so much as thought about taking adverts from any of their other titles.

A changed name and editor and they'll all be back on board fully.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on July 08, 2011, 12:55:48 AM
The Sunday Sun will simply replace the NOTW .

Sadly Murdoch will remain teflon coated , the BSKYB deal will still go ahead and Skynet will be activated

NOTW is a sacrificial lamb to keep our eyes and attentions away from the deeper issues going on here:


Police corruption
Journo's out of control and above the law
Politicians and PM's effectively owned by media barons (and banks/financial institutions) - all PMs since Thatcher!

http://youtu.be/pNItxPfIq6A (http://youtu.be/pNItxPfIq6A)
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 08, 2011, 08:20:31 AM
Ha! www.thesunonsunday.co.uk became a registered domain on Tuesday.

First issue 17.07.11 or I'm a monkey's uncle.

Just a though, the advertisers that pulled out of NOTW to protect their brands from the scandal, can they really just go over to the Sun on Sunday when everybody knows it's just going to be notw reincarnate?
Most notw reaaders might be happy to buy the Sun on Sunday but without the advertisers on board it won't succeed. The situation is unprecidented, I'm not so sure the outcome will be so predictable.

I bet it will end up as a film one day...


Well only Ford had actually pulled anything, I believe? And that was only a suspension of advertising "pending TNOTW's own investigation". Everyone else was only considering removing adds. And nobody had so much as thought about taking adverts from any of their other titles.

A changed name and editor and they'll all be back on board fully.

No there were more, O2 and Virgin among them.  Well they were trying to pull but magazines had been printed and sealed, this is why NOTW decided to suspend themselves.

But you're probably right, they are just playing the game, they are all in bed with each other soon enough....
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 08, 2011, 12:48:39 PM
Andy Coulson lifted and police seize lots of evidence.

Judge-led judicial enquiry underway. One hopes for significant impact on the MET, News International, and other papers who will blatantly have done the same thing (we know that The Observer had employed Glenn Mulcaire already). Though one doesn't think it all that likely.

Notably, STILL, years down the line, nobody has attempted to take evidence from News International or TNOTW offices.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14077405
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: ToneMonkey on July 08, 2011, 01:14:57 PM
As it's the dodgy media reporting on the dodgy medias wrong doing, I'm kind of expecting all this to slowly fizzle out and die over the next few months.  I think all of them are going to have skeletans in the closet, so it's not in their best interests to go too deep on this.

On a similar note, anybody noticed how the media (all the media as far as I'm aware) haven't even mentioned wikileaks for some time?  More than a little dodgy I think.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 08, 2011, 01:24:16 PM
The Guardian cover it now and again, that's about it.

Assange's extradition hearing is in a few days, too. 200+ days under house arrest. We'll see if the result makes the papers.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dr. Stein on July 08, 2011, 02:52:32 PM
I'm sort of surprised this latest scandal has been such a big deal if I'm honest. It's a despicable thing to do, but tabloid journalists have been doing despicable things on a regular basis for as long as I can remember. And I suspect much longer than that, too.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 08, 2011, 11:45:50 PM
I'm sort of surprised this latest scandal has been such a big deal if I'm honest. It's a despicable thing to do, but tabloid journalists have been doing despicable things on a regular basis for as long as I can remember. And I suspect much longer than that, too.

It's probably a big deal becuase one of the worlds biggest newspapers, one with greater circulation than any in the USA, has closed down after 168 years and becuase of a scandal that involves politicians, corruption, the police and a media tycoon.

Other than that it's not a big deal at all.  Not compared to stubbing your toe.....
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dr. Stein on July 09, 2011, 07:27:57 AM
^ Well the NOTW closing is a big deal, what I don't get is who the phone hacking stuff led to it closing. Tabloids do and are accused of awful things all the time.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 09, 2011, 08:59:35 AM
The big story is all about 'normal' members of the public getting their phones hacked due to terrible events in their life. Everyone knows that famous people, politicians etc are likely to have their private life exposed by journalists via phone hacking and other such practices. Perhaps the general public felt less sympathy for them as they are wealthy and having this stuff go on is an occupational hazard.

When it came to normal members of the public it started getting unacceptable and morally wrong. Other newspapers/media sources reporting on it as a scandal are at best hypocritical.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: MrBump on July 09, 2011, 09:34:37 AM
^ yeah.  It reached a sort of tipping point.

Where I'm uncomfortable though, is the new media frenzy that's trying to define public opinion - loads of sh!tty stuff going on, but I get the sense that I'm still being manipulated - the news organisations ALWAYS manipulate us, public opinion isn't REFLECTED by the press, it's DEFINED by the press.

Pro Murdoch/Anti Murdoch - information and opinion is still being defined by the media.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: shobet on July 09, 2011, 09:34:43 AM
Interestingly there are rumours coming out about the axing of the paper being planned as far back as November as a sop to ease the BSkyB deal!

Whilst some of what may come out could well be bollocks, there may be some soon to be unemployed journos with some very illuminating stories.

This could get really interesting...
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 09, 2011, 10:13:42 AM
YEp - I'm wondering what's going to happen if/when Coulson etc go to court. After this there will surely be book deals for those that were heavily involved. I would love to read about what happened although that just feeds the media machine!
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dmoney on July 09, 2011, 12:44:47 PM
I think this is a really big deal. I was watching the News 24 comments show and someone emailed in to say this whole thing doesn't deserve 5mins of coverage anywhere, what a stupid opinion.

I started writing some big thing about how I feel on this but sacked it off. Every system we rely on has elements of corruption from top to bottom. Everyone carries on eating, sleeping & working just like everyone is meant to.

humanity is the devil.


Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 13, 2011, 03:07:44 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-14142307

BSkyB takeover attempt withdrawn.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Philly Q on July 13, 2011, 03:16:50 PM
I still wonder if it'll all go away for a while and then, a bit further down the line, the BSkyB takeover will just quietly happen after all.

That said, the Murdoch backlash does seem to be steamrollering - questions being asked in Australia and the USA now.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 13, 2011, 03:28:07 PM
I think they'll certainly push the takeover again in a year or two.

However, if they US gets wired into the 9/11 hacking he'll be in serious, serious bother. The company is already being investigated in the US under their foreign corruption laws for paying UK police officers.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dmoney on July 13, 2011, 03:50:02 PM
I haven't heard anything 9/11 related hacking so far. what is that about?

Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: _tom_ on July 13, 2011, 04:17:59 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/11/us-newscorp-hacking-sept-idUSTRE76A04V20110711
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 16, 2011, 09:06:55 PM

Does everybody still think there will be a Sun on Sunday tomorrow?
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 16, 2011, 09:37:37 PM
Ha! Clearly not now. Last weekend I started to think I was probably wrong on that count.

I think any action from the Murdoch camp will be on the back burner for a while now. I thought they'd probably manage to get it all glossed over but it looks like they might actually get held accountable.

Sometimes it's nice to be wrong.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 16, 2011, 10:52:35 PM

I don't think many people thought it would go this far. 
Good to see the Murdoch's looking shaken.  Lets hope the pressure is maintained and they do get held accountable.

Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 17, 2011, 02:14:14 PM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14178051

Brooks arrested. Next up the chain is James Murdoch.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: MrBump on July 17, 2011, 06:22:08 PM
If I were a betting man, I'd put money on no-one with the surname "Murdoch" getting arrested.

Maybe Brooks was arrested to stop her dobbing the police in to the Parliamentary committee..?

Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 17, 2011, 06:28:57 PM
I wouldn't think it likely, no. Plausible deniability is getting slimmer and slimmer for them, though.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: tomjackson on July 17, 2011, 09:10:48 PM

The Met Police Commissioner Sir Paul Stephenson has now resigned.

I bet a Murdoch does get arrested.  The pack of cards is falling.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: nfe on July 18, 2011, 08:53:09 PM
I have the utmost confidence and the met and this definitely isn't suspicious. Just like David Kelly's death.

It's a whole real life conspiracy film!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/medi​a/2011/jul/18/news-of-the-worl​d-sean-hoare
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: MrBump on July 19, 2011, 06:44:01 AM
... and now Sean Hoare, the journalist who blew the whistle on the NoW after being sacked, has been found dead, although the police aren't treating it as suspicious (...although one has to ask oneself why that may be...)

Even MORE Kelly similarities?

This one definitely looks set to run and run.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dmoney on July 19, 2011, 06:53:00 AM
'unexplained' but not 'suspicious' is apparently the police line. Maybe it was Aliens, or something from the X-files... Tooms.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Philly Q on July 19, 2011, 01:00:52 PM
... and now Sean Hoare, the journalist who blew the whistle on the NoW after being sacked, has been found dead, although the police aren't treating it as suspicious (...although one has to ask oneself why that may be...)

Even MORE Kelly similarities?

This one definitely looks set to run and run.

It was weird, having seen him being interviewed on Panorama last night (not remembering who he was, to be honest), hearing it announced two hours later that he was dead.  :|
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 19, 2011, 09:51:55 PM
It'll be the guy who tried to foam pie Murdoch that is found dead next.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Dmoney on July 19, 2011, 09:59:05 PM
found dead in a pile of whipped cream... police reports say "he topped himself"






yeah... i went there.
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: Ian Price on July 19, 2011, 10:09:09 PM
Yeah, and they have some one in custardy etc etc etc

Seriously though, he could have a case against Murdochs wife. She looks very spiteful!
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: ToneMonkey on July 19, 2011, 11:25:52 PM
She looks handy in a fight
Title: Re: The News of the World to close
Post by: MrBump on July 19, 2011, 11:47:08 PM
Yeah, and they have some one in custardy etc etc etc

Seriously though, he could have a case against Murdochs wife. She looks very spiteful!

she looked pissed off, you mean!  When Murdoch ordered her online she thought her luck was in.  I'll bet she didn't think she was signing up for this...