Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: Crunch on July 21, 2011, 01:55:26 PM
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I'm into slow, trudging, bassy, and couchlocked guitar. I have a Dean Z-X and am definitely going with BKP when I have some extra skrilla.
If my intent is to play through an Electro-Harmonix Bass Muff Pi and Orange Dual Terror through a 1x12"+1x15", would my horrible tone tastes benefit from hot pickup like the HSPig 90 / Stockholm, or something more on the lighter side, like the Supermassive 90?
A second question: Does anyone have some recordings of BKP humbuckers operating in split-coil, series/parallel, or out of phase?
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I would reccomend a standard alnico v warpig for your needs.
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I would reccomend a standard alnico v warpig for your needs.
Why would you suggest the standard humbucker over a P90?
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Yep
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Yep
Great answer.
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Sorry. I did not see the "Why" in front.
I would reccomend it because i think you will like the full body of the humbucker in favour of the throaty, pick heavy sound of the Pig 90.
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Sorry. I did not see the "Why" in front.
I would reccomend it because i think you will like the full body of the humbucker in favour of the throaty, pick heavy sound of the Pig 90.
I rather like it. The pick kind of heaves through the bass. A humbucker-sized Pig 90 would have a slightly fuller sound, I would imagine, anyway.
Do you have any working experience between the two?
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I have had all kinds of piggies. I do have a humbucker sized ceramic Pig 90. It has more attack than a 18v emg 81. its good for thrash, grind, death metal stuff. But not for doom, atleast i dont think so.
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I have had all kinds of piggies. I do have a humbucker sized ceramic Pig 90. It has more attack than a 18v emg 81. its good for thrash, grind, death metal stuff. But not for doom, atleast i dont think so.
Yeah, I'm pretty well done with ceramics. I've had a few ceramic Seymour Duncans and don't intend on going back.
How is the noise with the Pig 90?
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its there. but a good noise gate can kill the 60 cycle hum.
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its there. but a good noise gate can kill the 60 cycle hum.
Not too into the idea of a noise gate. I usually run both pickups, so, as long as they're RW/RP'd, I should be fine.
How bad is it? Cheap fuzz pedal bad or an acceptable, white noise hiss?
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I can live with it. But i play grind :)
I still have a noise gate on though, but just enough to kill the hum. No sterile djenty djent(even though its the best pickup for that job :S )
I played through a orange rocker & a thunder 30. My impression there was that i missed my bassist, since it did not have enough body with that setup.
Played both amps with a A5 warpig, and i did not miss my bassist there :)
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I can live with it. But i play grind :)
I still have a noise gate on though, but just enough to kill the hum. No sterile djenty djent(even though its the best pickup for that job :S )
I played through a orange rocker & a thunder 30. My impression there was that i missed my bassist, since it did not have enough body with that setup.
Played both amps with a A5 warpig, and i did not miss my bassist there :)
That is exactly what I needed to know. Thank you, mate.
I found some revealing songs and audio samples from the players' section. Yours was one of the more informative.
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I'll just chime in with Mads here, seeing as we have quite similar experience with the pigs, to say the least.
Make no mistake; The Pig 90 is an awesomely vicious little bar-steward and I love it to death, but I still think the A-pig would be best for the doomy stuff. The A-pig is my go-to pickup for that stuff, in any case.
Though to be fair it's my go-to pickup for pretty much everything :lol:
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I'll just chime in with Mads here, seeing as we have quite similar experience with the pigs, to say the least.
Make no mistake; The Pig 90 is an awesomely vicious little bar-steward and I love it to death, but I still think the A-pig would be best for the doomy stuff. The A-pig is my go-to pickup for that stuff, in any case.
Though to be fair it's my go-to pickup for pretty much everything :lol:
Would an HSPig 90 rhythm and A-Pig lead be a good combination, you think? I intend to wire a "raw-power" switch to bypass the pots and drive both straight to the jack. Chances are, I wouldn't use the knobs, often.
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I'll just chime in with Mads here, seeing as we have quite similar experience with the pigs, to say the least.
Make no mistake; The Pig 90 is an awesomely vicious little bar-steward and I love it to death, but I still think the A-pig would be best for the doomy stuff. The A-pig is my go-to pickup for that stuff, in any case.
Though to be fair it's my go-to pickup for pretty much everything :lol:
Would an HSPig 90 rhythm and A-Pig lead be a good combination, you think? I intend to wire a "raw-power" switch to bypass the pots and drive both straight to the jack. Chances are, I wouldn't use the knobs, often.
If you have a 2-pickup guitar, that would pretty much be the best thing ever, yeah.
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I'll just chime in with Mads here, seeing as we have quite similar experience with the pigs, to say the least.
Make no mistake; The Pig 90 is an awesomely vicious little bar-steward and I love it to death, but I still think the A-pig would be best for the doomy stuff. The A-pig is my go-to pickup for that stuff, in any case.
Though to be fair it's my go-to pickup for pretty much everything :lol:
Would an HSPig 90 rhythm and A-Pig lead be a good combination, you think? I intend to wire a "raw-power" switch to bypass the pots and drive both straight to the jack. Chances are, I wouldn't use the knobs, often.
If you have a 2-pickup guitar, that would pretty much be the best thing ever, yeah.
My initial concern when considering this, however, is not being able to get a hum-cancelling RW/RP for the Pig 90 (that is, unless I'm not thinking of something).
EDIT: I don't intend to seem a nitpicking naysayer. Just a careful planner when it comes to pickups.
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It really depends what kind of sound you are going for. Something like Sleep (lower gain, more of an amped up classic tone) would be better suited to a Mule or something hotter and PAF like, but if you want to go full on Electric Wizard wall of stoned sound a APig would be the best. You're spending 250+ dollars on this stuff, you have every right to be a picky bar-steward about it.
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It really depends what kind of sound you are going for. Something like Sleep (lower gain, more of an amped up classic tone) would be better suited to a Mule or something hotter and PAF like, but if you want to go full on Electric Wizard wall of stoned sound a APig would be the best. You're spending 250+ dollars on this stuff, you have every right to be a picky bar-steward about it.
That was where the initial concern came into my head. Just about everything I tend to listen to is driven from some cheap PAF knockoff (Electric Wizard included).
The tones that really get my goat are produced by Thou and Samothrace, which involve a lot of rolled-back clean tones.
The Warpig makes my favourite cleans, at that. My question, now, is how much dirt is produced from a half-cranked amp and a rolled off Pig? A bluesy thickness is just the right amount.
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jazz players use it :P
it cleans up super nice. its still quite fat sounding, which i like for clean stuff. Almost chimes like a dreadnought acoustic.
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jazz players use it :P
it cleans up super nice. its still quite fat sounding, which i like for clean stuff. Almost chimes like a dreadnought acoustic.
Perfect. With the right pots, it will roll off to Cleansville, yes? I'd rather not rely on switching channels and tap dancing.
Any word on passive hum cancelling on the rhythm P90 when the lead humbucker is engaged, as well?
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i dont think its that bad. just keep on playing xD
or you can buy a electro harmonics humdebugger if you want absolute silence :S
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I haven't messed with a silencer that didn't squash my tone in a bothersome way- then, again, they were all cheap and cr@ppy. I'll dedicate some time to researching some of the newer/better products.
Though, I would prefer if I could somehow wire the bucker and P90 in RW/RP... I have no idea if that's possible, however.
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i dont think that the fizz is so bad. and the 60 cycle hum is quite depressed. So just write it in a note to tim that you want the humbucker & p90 to match. i bet he can do some magic. There are LOADS of guys in here who uses humbucker/p90 setups.
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Tim says that when both pickups are engaged, the P90's hum will be cancelled by the slug coil of the humbucker.
Thanks for all the information, mates.
Now, I just have to commit to a guitar to slap it in. It won't be the Dean Z-X, though.