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Title: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 21, 2011, 09:21:46 PM
I'm sorry if this is a repost. I looked about, a bit, before posting, and didn't see a thread like this.


Would you like to see a new aesthetic approach taken? Maybe a tone you can't quite find?

I, personally, would like to see larger pole pieces or rails as an option.
An olive drab ammo can coloured cover would be pretty nifty, too.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: mbchepburn on July 21, 2011, 09:48:28 PM
I'd like them to do a 'Signature Tone' series. Kind of like pickups designed to catch the vibe of famous players. I think a lot of players would buy them.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Transcend on July 21, 2011, 10:00:52 PM
I was always wanting something along the lines of dave mustaine called the 'holy wars'

or even something Jeff waters like.

Whilst some of the current line can kinda do these none of the current offering do it bang on theres always something i dont like.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Keven on July 22, 2011, 02:56:52 AM
i know that may never happen. but a good stacked single. or a mini humbucker option for all models!
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 22, 2011, 08:24:47 AM
i know that may never happen. but a good stacked single. or a mini humbucker option for all models!

Stacks would be pretty nice.

EDIT:
I, personally, would like to see larger pole pieces ... as an option.
I'm thinking something along the lines of the Seymour Duncan Invader to give the pole pieces a larger surface area.
Think this: http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=585.msg26417#msg26417 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=585.msg26417#msg26417), only bigger (and, maybe flatter than the SH-8).
Would a modification like that be as simple as swapping one bolt for another, or is there a far more difficult plot point I'm not considering?
Tim says this is not a custom option he is willing to do, at this time.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: darkbluemurder on July 22, 2011, 09:10:04 AM
I'd like them to do a 'Signature Tone' series. Kind of like pickups designed to catch the vibe of famous players. I think a lot of players would buy them.

Isn't that what they are already doing - see Rebel Yells and Crawlers?
And what about the others - most names come from songs, so you can draw the conclusion as to which signature stands behind it (War Pig - Tony Iommi, Miracle Man - Zakk Wylde, Holydiver - Vivian Campbell, Painkiller - Judas Priest, VHII - you all know who that is etc. etc.).

+1 on the stacked single coils. I would especially love them to do a stacked Tele model.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: BigB on July 22, 2011, 09:20:25 AM
mini-humbuckers and filtertron-type pickups would be cool.

Also there's certainly room for "hybrids" and experimentation... I once played a SG Special (P90), where the P90 had been modified to a more fenderish specs (magnetic pole pieces etc - don't know the exact details), and the result was really interesting. The "opposite" approach - a Fender-sized SC with a P90-like architecture might be interesting too (or not - not a pickup expert so I can't tell).

Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Ratrod on July 22, 2011, 11:43:40 AM
I'd like to see more oddball pickups like filtertrons, Jaguar and Jazzmaster pickups, staple top P90's.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Transcend on July 22, 2011, 01:31:21 PM
I'd like them to do a 'Signature Tone' series. Kind of like pickups designed to catch the vibe of famous players. I think a lot of players would buy them.

Isn't that what they are already doing - see Rebel Yells and Crawlers?
And what about the others - most names come from songs, so you can draw the conclusion as to which signature stands behind it (War Pig - Tony Iommi, Miracle Man - Zakk Wylde, Holydiver - Vivian Campbell, Painkiller - Judas Priest, VHII - you all know who that is etc. etc.).

+1 on the stacked single coils. I would especially love them to do a stacked Tele model.

Cheers Stephan

The names are just to do with the vibe that Tim got when the pickup was complete.

But if he made pickups for specific tones it would be a lot more precise
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Roobubba on July 22, 2011, 01:34:56 PM
I'd like to see them focussing on their core business: continuing to make superb pickups and maintaining the extremely high level of customer service which BKP customers have experienced for years. Especially in these economic times, it's an extraordinarily risky strategy to go branching out too much (although keeping some innovation is of course essential), and if I ever need another guitar, it will be getting BKPs, so I want them to be around if/when that happens!
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Keven on July 22, 2011, 01:56:32 PM
so true roo. the reason i'm sticking to BKP forever is that whatever i want/need out of my guitars, they'll deliver, and take my hand along the way to my pickup selection. and not just 'they', the owner and man who makes the pickups! try asking larry dimarzio something about pickup selection!
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Madsakre on July 22, 2011, 02:08:25 PM
What roo said. i would still like to see the Blackhawk out soon :)
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Alex on July 22, 2011, 02:11:06 PM
i know that may never happen. but a good stacked single. or a mini humbucker option for all models!

Me too for the stacked single/humbucker in single coil housing.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: adamj on July 22, 2011, 02:46:40 PM
I'd like to see Bareknuckle Guitars!

I would imagine then they could custom create the ideal sounds from the exact woods, pickups, pots etc. I reckon they would be pretty stylish too.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Philly Q on July 22, 2011, 02:56:26 PM
I like the idea of stacked/hum-cancelling "single-coils" too.

But when you look at the different noiseless models from DiMarzio, Kinman, Duncan, Fralin, Fender, Lace, Bill Lawrence etc they've all adopted their own approaches to the problem and - presumably - patented them to some extent (although the basic stack concept is now pretty widely used) 

So does Tim invest ££££, and many hours, in R&D to develop a unique BKP approach which may turn out not to be profitable?  I suspect not, especially since he hasn't expressed any interest in these types of pickups in the past.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Loomer on July 22, 2011, 03:32:01 PM
I'm pretty much in the "keep on keepin' on" camp too myself..
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: mbchepburn on July 22, 2011, 03:45:49 PM
Yeah, Tim really doesn't like stacked single coils from what I've heard.

How about him doing covers like EMG covers which are a matte finish, rather than a glossy black finished? I think a lot of people would like that when switching from their EMGs.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Loomer on July 22, 2011, 03:48:34 PM
Yeah, Tim really doesn't like stacked single coils from what I've heard.

How about him doing covers like EMG covers which are a matte finish, rather than a glossy black finished? I think a lot of people would like that when switching from their EMGs.

So punters like me can stand in the crowd and wonder how those EMG's have started sounding good all of a sudden?  :lol:
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Transcend on July 22, 2011, 03:59:29 PM
Yeah, Tim really doesn't like stacked single coils from what I've heard.

How about him doing covers like EMG covers which are a matte finish, rather than a glossy black finished? I think a lot of people would like that when switching from their EMGs.

So punters like me can stand in the crowd and wonder how those EMG's have started sounding good all of a sudden?  :lol:

he already does these.

I had my aftermaths in this finish
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: mbchepburn on July 22, 2011, 05:28:25 PM
Yeah, Tim really doesn't like stacked single coils from what I've heard.

How about him doing covers like EMG covers which are a matte finish, rather than a glossy black finished? I think a lot of people would like that when switching from their EMGs.

So punters like me can stand in the crowd and wonder how those EMG's have started sounding good all of a sudden?  :lol:

he already does these.

I had my aftermaths in this finish

REALLY? I've only seen the glossy black covers. Do u mean the matt black finish that's slightly rough to touch?
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: ericsabbath on July 22, 2011, 05:31:26 PM
I've been dreaming about Bare Knuckle scatterwound speakers for years :cry:

I don't even know if that would make any difference, but anything from this brand just can't be average  :D

Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Transcend on July 22, 2011, 05:37:53 PM
Yeah, Tim really doesn't like stacked single coils from what I've heard.

How about him doing covers like EMG covers which are a matte finish, rather than a glossy black finished? I think a lot of people would like that when switching from their EMGs.

So punters like me can stand in the crowd and wonder how those EMG's have started sounding good all of a sudden?  :lol:

he already does these.

I had my aftermaths in this finish

REALLY? I've only seen the glossy black covers. Do u mean the matt black finish that's slightly rough to touch?

It wasnt rough to touch but it was the same grey black colour as the emgs are

ill see if i can find a pic
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Keven on July 22, 2011, 05:55:49 PM
I've been dreaming about Bare Knuckle scatterwound speakers for years :cry:

I don't even know if that would make any difference, but anything from this brand just can't be average  :D



you're officially nuts. i like that idea. haha
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: AndyR on July 22, 2011, 07:46:21 PM
I'm with the "keep on doin what you're doin camp" as well... I'd like them to be making good business decisions for themselves so that they're still around even for my last set of pickups in x years time :D

I have to admit, though, I've no hankering after stacked singles or blades or some of the other things you guys like. I suppose, if they were doing lipsticks, I'd probably have a set in my dano by now. But how big is that market? Could they do it economically? Not so sure...

Similarly if they did "gibson-style" bass pickups, I'd be in the market for a set... just the one set, though!

Nah, I've got no real "I wish..." suggestions or desires for what they do next.

Except, mebbe, how about if they ditched the free strings and plectrum with each set of pickups... and came up with a new exciting offer... I'm thinking, how about a free guitar with each set of pickups? :o Yeah! Especially the new strat range... a CS strat with the 59 and 63 sets... I'm in! I'll have a set of each right now 8) :lol:
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 22, 2011, 08:58:41 PM
I am with Roo on this ( and others who have said similar). Keep to working on the existing range with the natural forays that will occur from time to time.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 22, 2011, 10:28:29 PM
I have to admit, though, I've no hankering after stacked singles or blades or some of the other things you guys like.
...
Similarly if they did "gibson-style" bass pickups, I'd be in the market for a set... just the one set, though!
...
Except, mebbe, how about if they ditched the free strings and plectrum with each set of pickups... and came up with a new exciting offer...

I'm personally interested in stacked P90's simply for their noiseless qualities. Blades are useful for big vibratos and tremolo wanking. With the Warpig (Doom) and Aftermath (Death/Djent) being the big staples, I don't see how it could hurt to have a custom option for an extra few pounds.
(The idea of a bladed HSPig 90 just popped into my head...)

I'd love to see more from BKP in the bass range- whether it be to introduce bassbuckers or just lay out some sound clips. I would imagine producing boutique products for bassists is futile (as I've never met one that gave a damn about tone aside from getting an SVT or playing with their fingers).

As far as free offers go, I'd love a free shirt over a pick and some strings I'll never use. I'm buying a boutique product, so I already have my tastes, guys.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on July 22, 2011, 11:19:18 PM
I have to admit, though, I've no hankering after stacked singles or blades or some of the other things you guys like.
...
Similarly if they did "gibson-style" bass pickups, I'd be in the market for a set... just the one set, though!
...
Except, mebbe, how about if they ditched the free strings and plectrum with each set of pickups... and came up with a new exciting offer...

I'm personally interested in stacked P90's simply for their noiseless qualities. Blades are useful for big vibratos and tremolo wanking. With the Warpig (Doom) and Aftermath (Death/Djent) being the big staples, I don't see how it could hurt to have a custom option for an extra few pounds.
(The idea of a bladed HSPig 90 just popped into my head...)

I'd love to see more from BKP in the bass range- whether it be to introduce bassbuckers or just lay out some sound clips. I would imagine producing boutique products for bassists is futile (as I've never met one that gave a damn about tone aside from getting an SVT or playing with their fingers).

As far as free offers go, I'd love a free shirt over a pick and some strings I'll never use. I'm buying a boutique product, so I already have my tastes, guys.

The pick is just a nice touch /marketing tool , but the thinking behind a fresh set of strings is that sadly some players would instal new expensive  pickups yet be too cheap or lazy to fit new strings and maybe not hear the pickup at it's best.

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We are offering the free guitar with a set of BKPs although we have to sell the BKPs for £1500+

Personally I am waiting to see the Blackhawks - from what I have heard from Tim they will be pretty different from what we have had before .
I think the only things I'd really like to see for now are maybe some mini humbuckers  and firebird pickups - seriously overlooked tone machines there.

They dont need to be every flavour - just a couple of cool versions like he has in the P90s.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: lyonk55 on July 23, 2011, 12:12:40 AM
An expanded bass range would be nice. Jazz and Precision pickups are fine, but my basses have soapbars :(
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Telerocker on July 23, 2011, 01:10:46 AM
I'm with Feline: minihumbuckers (Firebirds, teleneckpos. etc). And: more colouroptions for singlecoils. I ordered a HSS-set with a chrome cover for the VHII, but I would be awesome to have the sc's in chrome too. Or with a nickel cover. Now they're white. But, that's a detail. The sound is the most important.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: ShredHeadJHJ on July 23, 2011, 04:16:13 AM
I'd like them to do a 'Signature Tone' series. Kind of like pickups designed to catch the vibe of famous players. I think a lot of players would buy them.

Isn't that what they are already doing - see Rebel Yells and Crawlers?
And what about the others - most names come from songs, so you can draw the conclusion as to which signature stands behind it (War Pig - Tony Iommi, Miracle Man - Zakk Wylde, Holydiver - Vivian Campbell, Painkiller - Judas Priest, VHII - you all know who that is etc. etc.).

+1 on the stacked single coils. I would especially love them to do a stacked Tele model.

Cheers Stephan

The names are just to do with the vibe that Tim got when the pickup was complete.

But if he made pickups for specific tones it would be a lot more precise

Wow bro, there is a hell of a lot more to tone than just pick-ups. Even Dave Mustaine is notorious for pretty much only using Seymour Duncan JB's on their classic recordings. The JB is a very "over"-used pick-up, and I believe BKP has a model or 2 based on the JB already.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 23, 2011, 05:27:22 AM
Personally I am waiting to see the Blackhawks - from what I have heard from Tim they will be pretty different from what we have had before .
I had no idea those existed. After a bit of searching, I'm quite intrigued.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Transcend on July 23, 2011, 07:25:34 PM
I'd like them to do a 'Signature Tone' series. Kind of like pickups designed to catch the vibe of famous players. I think a lot of players would buy them.

Isn't that what they are already doing - see Rebel Yells and Crawlers?
And what about the others - most names come from songs, so you can draw the conclusion as to which signature stands behind it (War Pig - Tony Iommi, Miracle Man - Zakk Wylde, Holydiver - Vivian Campbell, Painkiller - Judas Priest, VHII - you all know who that is etc. etc.).

+1 on the stacked single coils. I would especially love them to do a stacked Tele model.

Cheers Stephan

The names are just to do with the vibe that Tim got when the pickup was complete.

But if he made pickups for specific tones it would be a lot more precise

Wow bro, there is a hell of a lot more to tone than just pick-ups. Even Dave Mustaine is notorious for pretty much only using Seymour Duncan JB's on their classic recordings. The JB is a very "over"-used pick-up, and I believe BKP has a model or 2 based on the JB already.

I know that as i said i can get pretty close but none of the bkp line that i have tried nail it.

the closest i've actually got is with a £23 iron gear pickup.

But thats beside the point i was going on with the signature line idea nothing more.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on July 24, 2011, 08:16:51 AM
Like many others here, I'd love to see some single coil sized humbuckers. I don't care if they're stacked or rails as I know a BKP version would be fantastic. I REALLY wanted a couple of these when I did my Jackson but as I couldn't stand to leave BKP, I ended up with a couple of Trilogy Suites instead. They're really good pickups that I like a lot but I'd certainly change them if BKP ever offered single coil sized humbuckers.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: MrBump on July 24, 2011, 09:06:02 AM
Best guitar I've every heard was an LP Delux with mini humbuckers - I can only dream about what that guitar would have sounded like with mini BKP humbuckers!!!

But no - business as usual as we like to say around these here parts.  There are PUPs to suit all situations in the range.

I think Tim should retire the bare knuckle fighter logo though.  Looks too much like my great uncle Bernard who used to fight at the Kursal in Southend in the early 1900's...
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Lucifuge on July 24, 2011, 09:30:47 PM
Firebird pickups for the same reasons as given by the others - probably my favourite humbucking pickup is a vintate-ish Firebird mini-hum, so I'd love to hear BKP's take on this.

Also, what about something for 5 & 6-string basses? I know this is probably harder to cater to than the guitar pickup market, because there seem to be a lot of different shapes and formats for bass pickups, but a 5-string j-type pickup seems to be fairly standard.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Telerocker on July 25, 2011, 12:01:55 AM
I think Tim should retire the bare knuckle fighter logo though.  Looks too much like my great uncle Bernard who used to fight at the Kursal in Southend in the early 1900's...

I actually like that retro-retro logo.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Loomer on July 25, 2011, 07:49:05 AM
I think Tim should retire the bare knuckle fighter logo though.  Looks too much like my great uncle Bernard who used to fight at the Kursal in Southend in the early 1900's...

I actually like that retro-retro logo.

I think it's enormously cool as well.

As for me, I know this is a pipe dream but drop-in replacements for the EMG 707 and 808 would be the top of my list. Otherwise I'm perfectly content.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Deadstar on July 25, 2011, 06:05:30 PM
Would definitely like to see some more of the different types that are commonly available (Jazzmasters/Jaguars/Mini Hums/Firebirds/Filtertron) or some sort of Pole magnet type humbucker - Bass Soapbars too.

This always seemed an interesting concept for a hum-cancelling single: http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/repairs/hc-strat/index.shtml

Yeah the logo is cool though it's the whole imagery behind the Bare Knuckle concept and is still classy looking.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Alex on July 25, 2011, 08:31:51 PM
I think Tim should retire the bare knuckle fighter logo though.  Looks too much like my great uncle Bernard who used to fight at the Kursal in Southend in the early 1900's...

I actually like that retro-retro logo.

It's an awesome logo, a whole think-tank of these modern marketing kiddies couldn't have picked a better one.
(Actually I don't want to know what they would have picked).
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 25, 2011, 09:45:16 PM
Would definitely like to see some more of the different types that are commonly available (Jazzmasters/Jaguars/Mini Hums/Firebirds/Filtertron) or some sort of Pole magnet type humbucker - Bass Soapbars too.

This always seemed an interesting concept for a hum-cancelling single: http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/repairs/hc-strat/index.shtml

Brilliant!
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Philly Q on July 25, 2011, 11:19:57 PM
Would definitely like to see some more of the different types that are commonly available (Jazzmasters/Jaguars/Mini Hums/Firebirds/Filtertron) or some sort of Pole magnet type humbucker - Bass Soapbars too.

This always seemed an interesting concept for a hum-cancelling single: http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/repairs/hc-strat/index.shtml

Brilliant!

Tele version too:

http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/tel-hc.shtml (http://curtisnovak.com/pickups/tel-hc.shtml)

Effectively it's a variation on the P-bass pickup, I guess.

But there's a limit to how much you can wind on each mini-coil, because they have to sit right next to each other, with limited space.  And I wonder if there'd be any issue if the two coils touch each other?  Don't know if that would cause problems or not.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: shobet on July 25, 2011, 11:54:09 PM
Maybe they should just make pickups, or maybee tea and scones.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: drawnacrol on July 26, 2011, 01:05:00 AM
I would love an active to passive kit made up of pickup rings and push-pull volume/tone pots. Just a small accessory you could buy along with your new pickups at checkout.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Crunch on July 26, 2011, 01:07:01 AM
I would love an active to passive kit made up of pickup rings and push-pull volume/tone pots. Just a small accessory you could buy along with your new pickups at checkout.
What are you on about?
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Madsakre on July 26, 2011, 01:58:43 AM
I would love an active to passive kit made up of pickup rings and push-pull volume/tone pots. Just a small accessory you could buy along with your new pickups at checkout.
What are you on about?

components from eg. Emg does not work well with Passive pickups. There are some things, like pots that you must change.
Title: Re: What would you like to see BKP do next?
Post by: Loomer on July 26, 2011, 08:29:25 AM
I would love an active to passive kit made up of pickup rings and push-pull volume/tone pots. Just a small accessory you could buy along with your new pickups at checkout.
What are you on about?

components from eg. Emg does not work well with Passive pickups. There are some things, like pots that you must change.

Yeah, that and maybe some sort of solution for grounding the whole thing, when changing to passives. I don't know if there even is any sort of easy fix for that at all though :(