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Title: Running
Post by: MrBump on September 05, 2011, 08:12:03 PM
Sick of struggling with my lardy-arsed belly every time I get out of bed in the mornings, so I'm starting to run.

I've trained in martial arts for years, and I've always used it as an excuse for not getting "properly" fit - but my cardio fitness is SHOCKINGLY bad!

So.  Went out for a 10 minute run this evening - could have done more, but Mrs Bump was getting my tea ready, so I didn't want to spoil that!  Lungs feel like I've smoked a box of cigars at the moment, but I'll persevere...

 :D

Mark.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 05, 2011, 08:47:04 PM
i feel somewhat similar. I just got back from the gym. I had a bit of a run and some other stuff.
working 8am - 6.30pm and getting home late means its hard to cram stuff in, but im trying my best and I imagine we'll both feel better for it.

I had a knock back when I realised most of my progress was all in my head. that got me down. I did martial arts from when I was about 7 or 8 until i was 18. At some point I'd like to back into it, even if its just going to the kickboxing class at my gym.

we both need to keep it up... more people here should leave us encouraging messages!  :wink:
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Transcend on September 05, 2011, 08:57:13 PM
You should keep it up!

I also used to do karate from about 8 until 20 then i moved away.

Tried the local venue for the club i was registered with for a few months but i just didn't click with the other students or the sensei so i packed it in.

Now i've fallen into the trap of i look thin so i must be healthy!

Which is so not the case i need to sort myself out and stop eating pies
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Davey on September 05, 2011, 09:51:41 PM
started working out at home on the 1st, intend to keep it up every day, since .. i'm in really bad shape.

same routine when i get up and before i go to bed.. i'll try and incorporate some weight lifting i can do at the computer and stuff like that..
running, not my thing, but if i'll have to do it, i guess i'l have to do it :P
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denim n Leather on September 05, 2011, 10:50:13 PM
The stairwell in my building has 110 steps from lobby to roof. I run 3 laps, 3x/week. It is brutality.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gwEm on September 05, 2011, 11:03:13 PM
Running Free?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denim n Leather on September 05, 2011, 11:39:31 PM
Running Free?
HA!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Roobubba on September 06, 2011, 08:34:52 AM
I think I need to buy my second set of running shoes soon. Haven't been out for about 3 or 4 weeks now, I definitely need encouragement to actually do it.

I used to do a lot of rowing at Uni (training for the University squad but gave up because I was falling behind in my studies), so was very fit during that time. Since getting married and doing a PhD, I've let the exercise slip massively and tried to make a conscious effort to go running this year, which I've done a bit but haven't really put enough hours or effort in, if I'm honest.

It's all time, isn't it! And with this commute, I often find I don't have the energy for anything outside of commuting and working hours (I tend to go running at lunchtime when I'm at the Sutton site).

Keep it up fellas, with a bit more encouragement I might even get out there and join you :)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 06, 2011, 04:29:15 PM

I really like going running, usually only averages out at 3 x 25 mins a week but it's better than nothing.
As D&L says stairs a are great, there's some woods near us with 40 stairs in which I run up 10 times on one of my runs, that's great for making you feel fitter.

I've layed off lately due to shin splints and a sore lower back so I'm going to go and get some new runners this week.
I'm going to a place that does gait analysis so I get properly fitted shoes.

Remember old shoes lead to injury, make sure you have proper shoes for the surface that take into acount your foot type and also that they are less than a year old or have less than 500 miles on the clock
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 06, 2011, 04:33:26 PM
I feel like I should go running outside the gym, but it's south east london and not exactly picturesque.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: ToneMonkey on September 06, 2011, 05:04:52 PM
Run as far as you can out of it and get the train back  :lol:
Title: Re: Running
Post by: MrBump on September 07, 2011, 07:57:31 PM
.... and out again tonight!

Still doing feck-all in terms of distance,  but my lungs feel much better tonight - recovery time was half two days ago!

I might actually stick at this...
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 07, 2011, 08:05:08 PM
I did notice that as far as running goes, the body seems to adapt quite quickly.
The first time I went I was wrecked after only a few minutes. I'm still not doing huge distances but I run according for set periods of time rather than over a particular distance. My knees are a bit rubbish so I'm always careful about putting stress on them.
When you can see improvement it definitely gives you a boost doesn't it?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 09, 2011, 01:34:54 PM

I've been and got some new runners.  They put me on a tredmill and took a video of my foot strike.  Apparently I overpronate slightly but the stability shoes I had were making me underpronate and probably contributing to the sore shins (that and the fact my trainers were way past their best).  It was interesting to see after him looking at the video, out of the 50 or so running shoes I had there was a choice of 3 that were right for me. 
Just goes to show how specific they are.

I've also been looking at things like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkUqkdPQHis to improve running style and stop heel striking.  I was getting really fit before the shin splints so want to make sure I don't get them again.

Might get a GPS running watch as well like this http://www.amazon.co.uk/Garmin-Forerunner-205-Personal-Training/dp/B000F5HZHQ  Always handy to know your mile/min and distance and you can race against your previous efforts along the same routes.

There's not much gear you can get for running but trust me to still get bloody GAS!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: MrBump on September 09, 2011, 04:58:47 PM
So, what does going to a proper running shop, and gate analysis set one back these days?  Roughly?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Philly Q on September 09, 2011, 06:39:13 PM
So, what does going to a proper running shop, and gate analysis set one back these days?  Roughly?

When I got some shoes from "RunnersNeed" they didn't charge for the treadmill/analysis business. 

Shoes weren't cheap though.  And they didn't stop me getting shin splints.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Madsakre on September 09, 2011, 07:34:56 PM
I run 3 miles in around 19 minutes. Its a part of my job :S

Btw be careful with your knees if you're a bit chubby, you can actually hurt yourself.


Rowing or spinning is brilliant alternatives
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 09, 2011, 09:39:17 PM
So, what does going to a proper running shop, and gate analysis set one back these days?  Roughly?

The gait analysis is free but generally shops that do it charge the RRP rather than discount like sports direct or the likes.  The trainers I got were £70 (on sale from £90) but they had some for £55.
At the end of the day, the gait analysis is supposed to be free so you can always get it done then go away and see if you can get the trainers cheaper elswhere.  I don't mind paying a bit extra but I wouldn't spend £100 on a pair of trainers I could get for £60 online.  But £75 fair enough, you pay don't mind paying a little extra for the knowledge and advice.


Title: Re: Running
Post by: Jonny on September 09, 2011, 09:40:20 PM
http://www.balancephysio.com/whatwedo/137/running-analysis - it's difficult to differentiation those for professionals and those for consumers, but this is one. No cost, as far as I can see.

And a proper running shop? In my opinion, it's all about the shoe. Like Nike have specialised in different types of runners, so you could them first. Specialists would probably cost a F-Ton.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 09, 2011, 09:45:59 PM
So, what does going to a proper running shop, and gate analysis set one back these days?  Roughly?

When I got some shoes from "RunnersNeed" they didn't charge for the treadmill/analysis business. 

Shoes weren't cheap though.  And they didn't stop me getting shin splints.

It's very frustrating; and I'm hoping mine don't come back but I don't think just the shoes will do the trick.
I've read what I can on the subject and other than shoes I'm stretching my calves much more and also building my shin muscles (lifting the furniture with the front of my feet).  Also trying to mid foot strike.
With plenty of rest, ice and building up mileage slowly hopefully that will keep the shinsplints at bay!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Philly Q on September 09, 2011, 10:28:59 PM
I've been getting most of my exercise from cycling and plain old walking recently.

I'm sure if I started running the shin splints (and lower back problems) would come straight back, even though I'm 2-3 stone lighter than I was last time I tried running.

I could only ever run on a treadmill or grass, if I tried to run on any kind of hard surface it was instant agony.  At that point, it's really not doing you any good!  :lol: 
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 10, 2011, 08:40:09 AM

Well you can't really beat walking.  If your body tells you not to run it's best not to!
I know a few people that run through the pain and hobble around everywhere, then it's doing more harm than good.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Philly Q on September 10, 2011, 10:44:18 AM
Well you can't really beat walking.  If your body tells you not to run it's best not to!
I know a few people that run through the pain and hobble around everywhere, then it's doing more harm than good.

Yeah, a friend of mine has an issue with a spur of bone (or something like that) in his heel.  Whenever he runs it hurts like hell and he can barely walk next day.  I keep saying - why bother?

It probably doesn't help that his wife did the London Marathon last year and is planning to do it again in 2012 - I think he feels left out.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Matt77 on September 11, 2011, 10:30:20 AM
I went for a brief jaunt the other week
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/matt102938/f5950672.jpg)
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Denim n Leather on September 11, 2011, 02:13:50 PM
I run 3 miles in around 19 minutes. Its a part of my job :S
When I commute to my office, it's a 2.5 mile walk from the train station. I can walk it in 26-27 minutes on average, with a c.20lb backpack (laptop, tools, etc). I can't seem to break the 26 minute record!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 11, 2011, 08:54:35 PM
I went for a brief jaunt the other week
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm118/matt102938/f5950672.jpg)

Is this how you did it?

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uIqa11NCbmA
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Matt77 on September 12, 2011, 12:29:08 PM
Felt like that!
That photo was over a week after the run.
I randomly decided to see how far I could run without stopping.
Turned out it to be a decent distance, but my feet weren't up to it.
In contrast to the mood of this thread. I'm quitting running
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 12, 2011, 12:41:04 PM
ouch!
thats how both my feet looked after doing some Kali training. first time in ages I'd trained and I did it bare foot. someone else did the same but they bled all over the floor, while i just got huge blisters that I didn't notice til I got home. not quite as bad as that mind!!! ouch!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ian Price on September 12, 2011, 10:32:08 PM
I've started running a lot more lately and have a half marathon in a few weeks. I visited 'The Sweat Shop' (great name) for a new pair of trainers as I'd had my old Nike Air Max for at least 12 years. The gait analysis was free of charge and they also measured me up for some insoles moulded to the shape of my feet. They wanted £40 for them! I asked the lady who served me what benefit they would give me and she said "not much". I didn't buy them and just plumped for a pair of Nike Vomero - cost me £90.00

Before I got the trainers I was having quite a lot of problems with my knee but that has now stopped. I think losing half a stone has also helped this. I even ran one of my regular routes in my quickest ever time for that route (4.9 miles in 34 minutes).

Running is nearly becoming a new addiction for me.

Title: Re: Running
Post by: _tom_ on September 13, 2011, 07:52:58 AM
I keep saying - why bother?

Addiction! I'm having a similar thing with the amount of mountain biking I'm doing out here in Canada.. it's so rough out here and my forks aren't really that good at absorbing high speed bumps. As a result my hands are getting battered and so sore just from gripping so hard that they don't get knocked off the grips. I've taken a day off today to recover as the pain in my left hand was bad enough that I couldn't open a bottle of pop earlier (better now though) but am already itching to get back out tomorrow and will be there first thing to try and get a full day in :lol:
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 09:04:51 AM
I have work 12noon - 10pm for 5 days starting tomorrow. My rather idiotic plan is to make my way to work on foot a few times. its 10miles away from my house. I've done it before as a casual stroll but I want to push it. i really really doubt I'd be able to run it! power walk maybe... ha
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Alex on September 13, 2011, 11:25:58 AM
I've never been a fan of running and have recently found rowing to be much more fun.

@dmoney: How about taking the bike there?
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 12:00:29 PM
im still not 100% comfortable with london roads. I did map the trip out and it really means going round some places like elephant and castle, or westminster bridge, places that are pretty wild in terms of junctions are cars trying to get into position. I'm not comfortable enough to deal with that.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Alex on September 13, 2011, 04:45:57 PM
I totally understand that; similar here on the ring road in Birmingham, much too dangerous for cyclists.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ian Price on September 13, 2011, 05:09:06 PM
im still not 100% comfortable with london roads.

Quite right too. I cycle to the station in Basingstoke from my house - about 3 miles each way. There is only a small section of road and even that makes me nervous! The rest is cycle path all the way.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 13, 2011, 05:20:09 PM

There's no way I'd cycle round Elephant and Castle!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on September 13, 2011, 05:21:26 PM
(4.9 miles in 34 minutes).


That's fast Ian, 7 minute miles.  Good luck with the half marathon!
Title: Re: Running
Post by: gwEm on September 13, 2011, 05:32:40 PM

There's no way I'd cycle round Elephant and Castle!

its hairy, but i do it reasonably regularly.

on the other hand, i've been involved in several accidents while cycling in london and as a result have half a dozen smashed teeth and ligament damage in the thumb of my guitar hand.

cycling is the best way to get around town, and i recommend it to anyone.
Title: Re: Running
Post by: tomjackson on October 17, 2011, 01:32:32 PM

The benchmark has been set!

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-15330421
Title: Re: Running
Post by: Ian Price on October 17, 2011, 01:41:25 PM
Jeez - well done to him. If I'm running marathons at 100 I'll be happy!

As far as my half marathon exploits go I had to drop out of it a few days before the event. Gutted, I was on  target for a good time as well! On a training run and my knee went about 6.5 miles in.