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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Sancho on September 09, 2011, 09:08:16 PM

Title: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 09, 2011, 09:08:16 PM
My Splawn Quickrod has arrived.
Could only give it a short test at low volume.
The tones seem to be all I hoped they were, but the amp is insanely loud.
I hope there's a trick to lower the output a bit, otherwise I'll need an attenuator.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Jonny on September 09, 2011, 09:33:03 PM
If you need to renovate a wall in your residence, just crank it. Sorted.

And I think it's best to get an attenuator than to fiddle with the tone that you love. Kind of defeats the purpose of the amp for the sake of volume - that's what attenuators are for!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Denim n Leather on September 09, 2011, 10:46:57 PM
There really isn't. QR loves to be cranked!

You can try the 1/2 power setting on a 2x12; that will diminish the volume a TINY bit.

Enjoy!

Pls post a pic of the head shell.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: JacksonRR on September 10, 2011, 03:42:01 AM
Nice buy! I'm sure you'll cry just a little bit when you actually get it up to volume. Beautiful amps. I've heard one live only once, but it was one of those tones that actually stuck out as impressive.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 10, 2011, 08:34:18 AM
Pls post a pic of the head shell.

one day ill try one of these amps.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 10, 2011, 08:43:02 AM
The dealer's pic of my actual amp :
(http://www.guitarsrebellion.com/crbst%5fSplawn%5fQuickRod%2dV%2dBLK%2dSilver.jpg?t=9rn980o8p3wiqe)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 10, 2011, 08:43:55 AM
NICE
that looks mean as hell! At first I thought that was a photo of a Nitro. have you compared a nitro to the QR?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 10, 2011, 08:46:02 AM
I hadn't even played a Quickrod before buying one, based on the recommendations of three people I know who own one (but live quite a long way away)
In general I prefer EL34 over 6L6, and I'm an old school guy, so the Quickrod seemed the most logical option.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 10, 2011, 08:54:18 AM
yeah. a while ago i was tempted by the Nitro, but it's meant to have crazy low end and I prefer EL34's too. Based on what I've heard around here I think the QR would be enough. Do you have to have the footswitch in it to get all the drive out of it?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 10, 2011, 08:56:14 AM
It comes supplied with the footswitch. Which has a rather strange proprietary cable, so once we start gigging again I may consider buying a spare cable.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 10, 2011, 09:04:53 AM
cool.
I think I emailed splawn once and asked about how the switching worked and got told I'd need to leave the footswitch in the amp in order to get to one setup, even if i wasn't going to switch anything... I'm sure im not explaining it very well.

With that amp I just built, I think I'm going to steal the OD1/OD2 switch function from the Quick Rod.

Seeing amps like this makes me want to build some 100watt BEAST of a high gain amp, although it's probably just as cheap to buy a splawn. they do seem like serious bang for buck
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: nfe on September 10, 2011, 10:12:30 AM
Do your riffs sound divine, now?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 10, 2011, 12:14:07 PM
sweet, that looks badass
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Transcend on September 10, 2011, 12:59:27 PM
Hmm you've brought back my major gas for a nitro!

Awesome amp.

Any chance of a few clips?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 10, 2011, 03:31:20 PM
Once we start rehearsing again, and I'm able to turn it up a bit, I'll see if I can get some halfway decent clips up.

Do your riffs sound divine, now?
Almost Stryper like :D
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 10, 2011, 03:41:00 PM
Glad you got it mate, that looks awesome!

The best way of lowering the volume of these amps is to use the FX Loop Master on the back on the amp if it has it.

What I do on mine is to set the volume on the OD channel to about 9 or 10 o clock (turn your guitars volume down 1st or you'll deafen yourself as I found out on mine :lol: ), and then use the push switch on the back of the amp to enable the fx loop and then use the control as a master volume control for the amp.

You do lose a smidge of the grind of the amp, but alot less than using an attenuater. I've used my 100w Weber Mass with my QR and while it does considerably lower the volume for home use, it also affects the tone of the amp alot more than the FX Loop Master volume control does.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 10, 2011, 03:55:43 PM
Scott told me to use the loop volume as well. I'll give it a go at the next rehearsal.
I don't need bedroom volume from this amp. I just need to get it at a level where we can still (kind of) hear the drummer :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 10, 2011, 05:11:16 PM
Scott told me to use the loop volume as well. I'll give it a go at the next rehearsal.
I don't need bedroom volume from this amp. I just need to get it at a level where we can still (kind of) hear the drummer :lol:

I don't really do 'bedroom volume' either, but it lowers it enough with minimal tone loss so you'll still be able to hear after a few days  :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: lulusg on September 11, 2011, 02:42:13 AM
BKP's + Splawn = Instant Schwinggggg !!!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 11, 2011, 11:17:20 AM
A family shot :
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Gear/TowerOfDoom.jpg)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 11, 2011, 01:07:39 PM
If you have the same experience with yours as I have with mine, you'll barely ever touch that Marshall again! (I haven't used mine since!)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Denim n Leather on September 11, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
I've never been a fan of attenuating the QR; it really affects the tone.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 11, 2011, 02:24:23 PM
I've never been a fan of attenuating the QR; it really affects the tone.

In my experience using the FX Loop Master as a volume control doesn't affect the tone as much as using a power attenuator does, but you are right, it does take the edge off.

For live and recording use I don't/wouldn't use the loop volume either, but if for playing at home it's a slightly less edgy tone versus deafness or not being able to crank the levels at all and it sounding dull, I'd take the slightly less edge  8)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 11, 2011, 05:01:40 PM
how does the splawn sound compared to the laney?

i have a gh50l, and splawn is kinda on my GAS list (has been for ages, but obviously i can't try one first :( )
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 11, 2011, 06:45:23 PM
I haven't been able to compare them directly. First impression is that the Splawn retains more of a vintage edge, while the Laney sounds a bit more modern. 80s vs 90s, if that makes any sense...
Before I've used the Splawn in a band situation, I won't be able to really evaluate it.

I've probably posted this before, but this is the clip that made me pull the trigger on the Quickrod :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjKOpXLlRM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFjKOpXLlRM)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 11, 2011, 06:53:14 PM
oh right, really? :lol: the laney has a fair bit of a vintage edge for my tastes :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 11, 2011, 07:01:56 PM
I know, it's a very wonky description.
The Laney is very Birmingham, the Splawn is more L.A. by way of New York. Not that I've been to any of these places, but you get the analogy, no?
 :?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: hunter on September 12, 2011, 08:50:55 AM
Badasss!!!!

It's a pity the greatest always are so LOUD as F...something!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 12, 2011, 04:46:43 PM
I know, it's a very wonky description.
The Laney is very Birmingham, the Splawn is more L.A. by way of New York. Not that I've been to any of these places, but you get the analogy, no?
 :?

i haven't either. well, i've been to birmingham train station, but i don't think that counts :lol: But yeah i think i know what you mean.

btw, i watched that vid, nice find, that was awesome. I still want one :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 12, 2011, 11:16:47 PM
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2008-SPLAWN-QUICK-ROD-/130575262599?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1e66e46387
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 13, 2011, 01:09:52 PM
thanks, but i'd probably rather go for a new one, don't the newer ones have the improved clean channel and volume knob in the loop?

also when i say i want one i don't mean i have the money for it right now :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 13, 2011, 01:15:48 PM
An American mate of mine told me to absolutely get the latest revision. That loop volume knob could be a life saver.
As for improved clean channel... What little time I've spent with my Splawn so far, the clean channel reminded me of my old 2210s clean channel.
If it does power ballad arpeggiated chords, it's good enough for me.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 01:29:54 PM
hahah. I thought I'd post that up just to fuel your GAS.
I didn't realise that there are changes in them.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 13, 2011, 01:56:21 PM
The clean on my 2010 Quick Rod is nicer than my JCM800 2210 by a long shot.

I tried it in the shop through a Diamond Amps 4x12 with 2 V30s and 2 G12Hs and the clean tone was really nice, I was surprised by it tbh. It's not so nice through my own cab with just V30s, but more than useable.

The FX Loop Master volume control is a total lifesaver for taming this amp.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 02:21:00 PM
the 2210/2205 clean is pretty poor. seems like a bit of an afterthought from Marshall.
I didn't know the diamond cabs did that mix. I might try swapping my T-75's for some G12H a-like taydens then.

cheers!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 13, 2011, 03:24:40 PM
the 2210/2205 clean is pretty poor. seems like a bit of an afterthought from Marshall.
I didn't know the diamond cabs did that mix. I might try swapping my T-75's for some G12H a-like taydens then.

cheers!

The cab I used the QR through was 1 of the metal grille fronted Diamond amps cabs, but according to their site is now 4x V30s. I'm 99% sure it used to say 2x V30s and 2xG12Hs though as I checked it almost straight away when I got home as I really liked the cab  :?
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 03:33:44 PM
cool. thanks for the heads up. maybe they changed it to get a discount buying more V30's? Or maybe it's easier to sell a cab if it just has V30's. personally, I don't reeeaally go for 4xV30s in a 4x12, although it took me a long time to figure that out. sorry to go off topic.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Brow on September 13, 2011, 04:08:54 PM
I really wanted a cab with that mix of speakers, but it wouldn't have the power handling I need in a 2x12 to make it feasible  :shock:

let us know how you get on with the Taydens if you go for it.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 13, 2011, 04:18:05 PM
I will do for sure, the Taydens have higher power handling than the original G12H's I think. It's the great brit im thinking of. 50 watts power handling.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 13, 2011, 07:39:07 PM
An American mate of mine told me to absolutely get the latest revision. That loop volume knob could be a life saver.
As for improved clean channel... What little time I've spent with my Splawn so far, the clean channel reminded me of my old 2210s clean channel.
If it does power ballad arpeggiated chords, it's good enough for me.

oh yeah, i mean i'd only be playing it at home too so i'd need that :lol:

and yeah i think i heard they'd improved the clean channel. I haven't tried either of them, so i dunno how much improvement there was :lol:

hahah. I thought I'd post that up just to fuel your GAS.
I didn't realise that there are changes in them.

haha no worries :D
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 13, 2011, 07:42:47 PM
oh yeah, i mean i'd only be playing it at home too so i'd need that :lol:
I hope to be using it in a band, starting in october.
I'm used to rehearsing with 100 watt amps, and the drummer is an animal. But this one seems A LOT louder than even my 2203.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 14, 2011, 04:34:40 PM
oh dear :lol:

louder than your laney? I find my gh50l needs to be cranked a little to sound good too :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Telerocker on September 14, 2011, 11:33:22 PM
Anyone using earplugs? I even find my Blues Junior cranked quite loud.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 15, 2011, 08:36:44 AM
I tried the FX loop volume yesterday. Works like a charm :D
It does take away some of the dynamics of the sound, but I could get a useable home level with a 4x12.
That doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to turning her up with a band though :wink:

As for earplugs : I rehearsed for years without which did irrepairable damage to my hearing. Used earplugs for a while but got one of those drummer headphones now, kind of like Paul Gilbert.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: hunter on September 15, 2011, 02:35:09 PM
I tried the FX loop volume yesterday. Works like a charm :D
It does take away some of the dynamics of the sound, but I could get a useable home level with a 4x12.
That doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to turning her up with a band though :wink:

As for earplugs : I rehearsed for years without which did irrepairable damage to my hearing. Used earplugs for a while but got one of those drummer headphones now, kind of like Paul Gilbert.

you should add a fake jack plug to your guitar and plug them headphones in there, just for giggles.

By the way, I think I just got the perfect 80s hot rod geetar to go with your amp :)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 15, 2011, 03:37:08 PM
By the way, I think I just got the perfect 80s hot rod geetar to go with your amp :)
You sure did :shock:
On the other hand, I think these will cope nicely as well  :wink:
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/JacksonsSmall.jpg)
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/Charvel4some.jpg)

And if worse comes to worst :
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/Carvintrio.jpg)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Afghan Dave on September 15, 2011, 03:39:44 PM
SEXY MOTHERF**KERS!!!

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Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Dmoney on September 15, 2011, 03:47:51 PM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: hunter on September 15, 2011, 03:48:04 PM
WTF???

You got me there BIG TIME :)
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Afghan Dave on September 15, 2011, 03:50:33 PM
WTF???

You got me there BIG TIME :)

That's not a knife...

(http://hardymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crocodiledundeeknife.jpg)

THAT's a KNIFE!  :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: hunter on September 15, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
WTF???

You got me there BIG TIME :)

That's not a knife...

(http://hardymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/crocodiledundeeknife.jpg)

THAT's a KNIFE!  :lol: :lol:

LOL
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: gwEm on September 15, 2011, 05:51:59 PM
you must be at peace with yourself to play that pink Carvin star.

big up!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: AndyR on September 15, 2011, 05:59:38 PM
Hey Nonny Nonny indeed! :D

I've been watching this thread with interest, wondering what sort of guitars (and music) one plays through this kind of amp. I have a much better idea now...

I've got an Explorer in a nice earthy mahogany sort of look... that's about as "pointy guitar" as I get. It comes out to do some blues and Lynnyrd Skynnyrd licks every now and then :roll: :lol:
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 15, 2011, 07:11:45 PM
I've got an Explorer in a nice earthy mahogany sort of look... that's about as "pointy guitar" as I get.
Like this one you mean?
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/Explorersmall.jpg)
 :D

I love Explorers. Tone machines!
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: gordiji on September 15, 2011, 07:30:35 PM
class
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Telerocker on September 15, 2011, 07:44:02 PM
That are quite some nice babes to play with.  :D
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: dave_mc on September 15, 2011, 09:44:51 PM
I tried the FX loop volume yesterday. Works like a charm :D
It does take away some of the dynamics of the sound, but I could get a useable home level with a 4x12.
That doesn't mean I'm not looking forward to turning her up with a band though :wink:

ah that's good to know, thanks

awesome guitars you have there too :D
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: AndyR on September 16, 2011, 05:00:21 PM
I've got an Explorer in a nice earthy mahogany sort of look... that's about as "pointy guitar" as I get.
Like this one you mean?
(http://i966.photobucket.com/albums/ae150/YellowSoCal/Guitars/Explorersmall.jpg)
 :D

I love Explorers. Tone machines!

Yep, quite a lot like that one. Except mine used to be a very sticky dark cherry. After a year or two of it not getting any better I stripped it and refinished it myself one crazy fortnight when my wife was away :lol: - http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21600.0 (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=21600.0)

Love it to bits now, but it doesn't get as much attention from me as perhaps it could.
Title: Re: New amp day - this one is LOUD
Post by: Sancho on September 16, 2011, 05:41:45 PM
My very first Explorer was Cherry as well. Good guitar, but I sold it for some stupid reason...
I hear what you're saying about the stickyness. I had a Les Paul Standard with the same problem. Super pretty Honeyburst finish on a highly flamed top. But she never felt right, so out she went.