Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Nephilim on September 17, 2011, 11:16:25 AM
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OK, I'm getting myself a Peavey 6505 and Recto 4x12 cab, but I need a bedroom Solid State/Digital Amp for bedroom practice. Which one: Peavey Vypyr or Line 6 Spider IV?
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OK, I'm getting myself a Peavey 6505 and Recto 4x12 cab, but I need a bedroom Solid State/Digital Amp for bedroom practice. Which one: Peavey Vypyr or Line 6 Spider IV?
don't they both use the same technology? - much of a muchness for a small SS practice amp imo.
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the Vypyr tube ones are supposed to be pretty good I heard.
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don't be a weakling... just crank the 6505. If your ears aren't bleeding it's not worth hearing.
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Haha. I just want something small for late hours of the night. So anybody here had experience with either of them? And if so, what do you think?
P.S. I'm not up for getting into a valve/digital debate btw, lol. I know valves are much better :) I just want something hi-gain and cheap, but decent quality
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I've never been impressed by any Line 6 amp I've ever played. And I've tried plenty...
The Vypyr I played however sounded quite nice. It was one of the valve models though.
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I was looking at the valve Vyper. I just don't want the hassle of tubes for this amp, tbh.
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i don't see why it would be a hassle. it's only going to be a hassle if you want to start swapping them. just leave whatever it comes with inside it and don't mess with it. if its staying in your bedroom then you don't need to worry so much about reliability,and if you're going to mess with the valves in your 6505 then you'll end up with some spares anyway. I think peavey use JJ's a lot so you should be ok.
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The Fender Mustang IV doesn't sound bad at all and is real easy to use and manipulate. Also has USB, Aux and headphone jacks. Here is a decent vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_McsyKVFDPY . Most of the presets put too much 'verb and delay, but it is real easy to dial out. Played on one the other day sounds good for what it is.
The built in tuner in the thing is also REAL easy to read.
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roland cube! rob chappers does a comparison of 4 or so practice amps on one of his youtube videos, might be worth checking out
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i went for the roland cube 40xl .fine for practice, there's a very good demo of it somewhere ,in fact here
http://youtu.be/m5H6hk8yA-s
i looked at the vypyr .think the rolands the best of the 3, simple ,good and about 170quid.
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I have a Line 6 Pod XT, as I am too poor to buy a real amp (I LOVE valves! :*( ) and all the places I've lived have paper-thin walls, so it's ideal for recording / using through computer speakers / headphones.
However, having tried most Line 6 "amps" out there, I have to say I absolutely loathe the way each and every one of them has sounded. Without even hearing the Vypyr, I'm almost tempted to tell you to go for that without even listening to a demo. Anything's better than a Line 6 amp. :x
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The Roland Cube XL40 is quite good at drive/distortion.
The Mustang is the way to go if want Fender-cleans.
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Attenuator>SS amp. There should be at least 5 more thread like this. One is just not enough.
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Cube, easily. I detest the vypyr (and have owned both, 30W versions)
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Either a cube or a spider iv.
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What is the cube like for really heavy metal though?
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Out of the hybrid/modelling amps.
The only ones that have ever really stood out as anything special (not great just stands out from the croud) to me were the old Peavey bandit transtube before they put digitial fx on it.
And the line 6 vetta II but that is a bit pricey if i remember correctly. But its basically all the podxt modelling in head format but doesnt have as much of the fizz that the standalone modellers are famed for
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there's plenty of gain on the mesa, extreme & dyna amp models of the roland, so at bedroom levels it's fine
for 'very metal'.
i like the roland because it's like an amp, no screen and cursors like a telephone or line 6, and also not millions of absurd
sounds like the line six. just about 8 different sounds that you can adjust the gain and vol for and also eq.(bass, mid treb).
also if you spend as much on switches as the amp costs :lol:, you can have a 4 channel amp, with switchable chorus,
delay, reverb and looper at your feet. i settled with one fs6 f.switch(50£) which gives me 4 channels.
it's plenty loud though and tons of bass for it's size.
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Well the amp I'm looking for is never going to gigged. I'm just looking for a cheap bedroom amp basically :)
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Get the cube then :) Its very, very good
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there's plenty of gain on the mesa, extreme & dyna amp models of the roland, so at bedroom levels it's fine
for 'very metal'.
i like the roland because it's like an amp, no screen and cursors like a telephone or line 6, and also not millions of absurd
sounds like the line six. just about 8 different sounds that you can adjust the gain and vol for and also eq.(bass, mid treb).
also if you spend as much on switches as the amp costs :lol:, you can have a 4 channel amp, with switchable chorus,
delay, reverb and looper at your feet. i settled with one fs6 f.switch(50£) which gives me 4 channels.
it's plenty loud though and tons of bass for it's size.
You forgot the looper!!! I don't think it's on every model of cube but really useful for laying down a riff and then trying lead ideas over the top
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I have tube 60 Vypyr and it's damn loud. I just play in a bedroom and about 1.5 on the master volume is enough and it goes to 13. Only trouble with the Vypyr is the Sanpera pedal which is extra. I got the Sampera II but it's a double dip on the wallet. You can't access all the presets unless you have either pedal but the II has the display. I use the krank it preset on the krankenstein modelling with a Behringer HM-300 for tone to get a Swedish death metal tone. Not as good as the real deal with a Boss HM-2 but good enough for messing about with. My c-pig roars on this set up but I'm a bit meh with the 6505 modelling on any of my guitars but I haven't really tweaked that preset yet.
Once the tubes are warm it's a great sound. The effects sound good too. A good time waster just playing around with sounds. I've only ever had to reboot it once when I first got it after the first 1/2 hour it just stopped dead but a power off and on sorted it and it's fine since. I've had it running for a few hours at a time and it's good. Nice hot Aussie summer will test it though especially when it's pushing the mid 40's outside. Find out in a few months.
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You could also invest in a Line 6 ux2. Its the best buy i ever did!. you get recording software and everything along with it.
I did this with all the free programs which went with it.
I think the quality is quite good :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6647159/Lycaon%20-%20Take%201.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6647159/Lycaon%20-%20Take%201.mp3)
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You could also invest in a Line 6 ux2. Its the best buy i ever did!. you get recording software and everything along with it.
I did this with all the free programs which went with it.
I think the quality is quite good :)
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6647159/Lycaon%20-%20Take%201.mp3 (http://dl.dropbox.com/u/6647159/Lycaon%20-%20Take%201.mp3)
Well if you go that route you can get cheaper still with all the free amp sims out there. Some of them sound pretty awesome, tbh.
Powerball sim vs real one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DQmMrB93vzM&feature=related
5150 sim
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrvOqTX1RPI