Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: itsonlyausername on October 08, 2011, 12:08:27 AM
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I've been having trouble choosing a pick up ever since my current guitars bridge decided to lose power
I want a rise against/leathermouth kinda tone when it comes to power chords as i like that tone im also a metal head too so i do want some nice gain to take a lead.
I was going to go with a phat cat at the neck that 8K output and a holy diver but are bare knuckle pick ups to glam metal ish and i can't tell anything from the tone samples they all sound the same. and seymore duncan tone wizard recommends pick ups i hate like the destorted humbucker the JB is good though but then it's picking a neck plus everyone uses a Jb i would like something different just maybe inspire rather stay in the comfort zone.
I have a epiphone specail II mahagony body vintage tremelo flat body bolt on neck
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i play music in that ballpark. I use painkillers for that kinda stuff. if you want it darker, then take a look at the nailbomb
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Painkillers sound good the nailbomb i dont think so on the grounds thats what matt bellamy uses and he is my hero but his tone is very glam rock i want to avoid that
Also do the pain killers sound ok on standard tuning
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Both will be great for metal (NB and HD) and both are rather versatile. For punk... better ask someone else.
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They are good metal pick ups and thats the problem all i hear is metal know one ever uses them in the punk genre and all the demo's on youtube are all metal heads
The JB seems to be the only pick up that i see and like and know it's good the problem is everyone uses it and dosent seem to be an original idea and id rather have something new and interesting.
The p90 humbuckers would any of them suit the criteria
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People sometimes refer to the HD as the perfect JB. Quite often actually. So give it a spin
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what is your guitar/amp/pedal combo?
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what is your guitar/amp/pedal combo?
I have a Marshall Mg 15 with a zoom multi Fx and a epiphone specail gt
I will be getting a Marshall JCM 800 or a dsl 50 it will be a hard marshall amp i use overdrives as i like to drive the amp hard rather use destortion
Phaser and a compressor
Im in the process of getting my rig together for gigging
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I'd suggest the Nailbomb from the humbucker range - it has a savage midrange grind that will be excellent for punk tones. It will also cover any metal tones you're after.
If you are interested in pursuing the humbucker-sized P90s, the Stockholms would be well worth looking into. They will be more than capable of what you're after, and give you a different sound that will set you apart from regular humbucker users.
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il say it again the nail bomb is to glamy matt bellamy uses it.
It would be a holy diver for the bridge as i have read review of it being the same as a JB but better as for the neck i may try a humbucker p90 for a different tone if i can the holydiver paired up with a low output neck so i do have room to mess a guess.
Still suggestions for something new will be nice too just don't mention the nailbomb again
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vintage spec P90s or tele singles, that's what my punk idols were/are using.
But then punk is about just using whatever you have to hand...
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I know what you mean but my bridge humbucker is broken and needs replacing. I cant hear quite notes and only responds to aggressive playing
Maybe your generation of punk but im more hardcore and into rise against /leathermouth and bad religion its the nice power chords i want from it.
offcourse my chemical romance go to a classic side using p90 phat cats but also the JB it appears to be somewhat the best and most common professionally used pick up even though people say the holydiver is better.
I did think about having the high output holy diver bridge and then a low 8 ohm p90 missisipi queen or the phat cats not unuaslly daron malakian a metal guitarist did that and so does matt bellamy not neccesarily a punk guitarists
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il say it again the nail bomb is to glamy matt bellamy uses it.
You know, theres more than just humbuckers to generate sound.
There are not much similarity in tone between Nile and Blink 182, even though both bands used Sd invaders.
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just because matt bellam uses it, doesnt mean its glammy. i have one in my les paul studio which i use in my post hardcore band. slap some gain at it, and its super mean sounding. due to its kinda hollowed out mids, it sounds excellent through midrangy amps like marshalls. dont write off gear because someone else uses it. after all, Les Paul him self played countryjazzfusion stuff and you seem quite content to use something he used. well, sorta.
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il say it again the nail bomb is to glamy matt bellamy uses it.
That just shows the versatility of the nailbomb. Its an awesome punk pickup.
You seem to like the JB, but dont want it because its not an original idea and rather something new and interesting. I think if you like it, you like it....get one and make some new and interesting music with it to stand apart from the rest. :twisted:
I have no hands on experience with the HD, but from others...it does sound like the big brother to the JB.
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You seem to like the JB, but dont want it because its not an original idea.
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No quite if i were to use the JB i would just play my chemical romances old stuff and rise against with anything else in my music collection that has in some way related to the JB
I have a strat once and all i played on it was Jimi hendrix muse
and when i got a Les paul i started playing gun and roses and anything les paul related
This is a strange problem where if i start getting equipment similar to another guitarist i know il just do what they making doing something new tough because i feel like im standing on the solders of giants really i strange things
so to get a unique pick up that can get me what i want would elimenate that to some degree so i can start working on my own tone
I may go for a holy diver bridge with a phat cat in the neck only because the holydiver neck is 7-8 ohms and so is the phat cat neck
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I'll go out on a limb here and suggest a Rebel Yell.
I use it mainly for punk/oi covers (Sex Pistols, c--ksparrer, 4skins, that sorta stuff), but they do really nicely for regular metal as well.
Wouldn't go for downtuned stuff or deathmetal with these though.
Hell, if you go for a RY set and get a coil split on the neck you won't need the phat cat.
My RY's when switched to single do a pretty mean P90'ish sound.
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Well, your argument about the NB is absolutely ridiculous. Nolly is one of the most experienced BKP users on the planet, and has a wealth of talent, experience and versatility that puts the likes of me to shame - I would very much trust his recommendations, regardless of what you 'think' you'll end up playing.
But, as you seem to have the delectable combination of both stubbornness and ignorance, how about looking at a Black Dog? The lower output suits punk very well because you can still use it with a clean booster to push the front end of an amp to access all manner of brutal tones (I used to use one for hardcore/metal), or just peg it back a touch and get to great crunch tones as well. I found the BD very versatile. I have also used a Miracle Man extensively, and for me I actually found this remarkably grindy and brutal, though the top end is very smooth and some people seem to think it lacks mids, though in my rig and guitar it was plenty middy enough for me, and I'm a mid addict. I now use an aftermath, but for what you mention in the top post, I don't think the higher output modern range pickups are for you, however grindy and aggressive we tell you they really are...
FWIW I've never played any Ozzy, Origin or Zep with these pickups, nor did I feel the need, or even for most of my time know what the pickups were named after. If your 'problem' of not being able to play differently to what you imagine the person who inspired the pickup played, you're going to have problems with all BKPs given their naming scheme. Utterly ridiculous. If you put a NB in your guitar, play it through your rig, and are in any way reminded of Matt Bellamy, I would be very very VERY READ IT AGAIN YOU IDIOT VERY VERY surprised. :)
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and you would end up playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMXSpgheJk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMXSpgheJk&feature=related)
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and you would end up playing this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMXSpgheJk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAMXSpgheJk&feature=related)
Could be worse :)
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i would pick a nailbomb for hardcore, unquestionably.
its not a pickup i like particularly, but it has the right tone for sure.
a number of people on this forum say its just the ticket for their type of metal too.
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Itīs hard to define hard core these days but if you mean some old school stuff i would go with alnico pup especialy when you want to feed JCM 800...Think Refused organic sound...HD,RY?
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so to get a unique pick up that can get me what i want would elimenate that to some degree so i can start working on my own tone
Sorry to say but you got something backwards there. You have to work on your tone first and get to know what you want, then you will be able to select dedicated gear, not the other way around.
To let oneself influence by gear is OK to a degree as most instruments lend themselves to certain styles better than others but there are no hard and fast rules in that regard. John 5 plays telecasters but he does not play country on them simply because he doesn't have to. Les Paul, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, Duane Allman, Dickey Betts, Slash and Zakk Wylde play Les Pauls but do they play the same stuff or sound alike? No way.
Good information and recommendations have already been given. It's now up to you.
Good luck
Stephan
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BTW: even the guitar with the Miracle Man in it will not stop me from playing blues on it if I feel like it.
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Itīs hard to define hard core these days but if you mean some old school stuff i would go with alnico pup especialy when you want to feed JCM 800...Think Refused organic sound...HD,RY?
thanks i have made a descision but i may change the amp to complement them better
As for some people raging about the fact i can't go nailbomb on them i just can't get it.
Matt bellamy is my guitar hero and was the first thing to influence me to pick up the guitar if i where to get equipment he used like the Nailbomb which i think he has a signature version of now it would just play his stuff it would be the same if i got his guitar or his Fuzz factory.
The les paul i got isnt even a proper les paul it's flat bodies and has a bolt on neck because if i bought les paul i will play like it's predessesors i am an easily influenced person and generally differentiate my tone from my hero's is simply get something different that does what i want.
I want to pursue a hardcore punk style and the JB is the overall companion as i appear to see if i where to get that then i would then think randy roads zach blair ray toro over in my head everytime i see the Jb in my bridge now i can't connect someone with the holy diver and it appears to match my criteria.
also yes i would be stubborn i am spending 100 pounds of my money that i have saved up during my work in the summer i can not just do as you say just because you know better it was a no no on the nailbomb from the beginning if i dont like it then i won't buy it and you wouldn't too if you do something because someone told you too then your just gaulable really.
Ignorant No iv heard the name bomb and have seen 2 guitarist use one is matt bellamy and they other is from a metal band i never remember and metal or any of matt bellamy music i am not following here maybe i would like some metal riffage from time to time but there are the pick ups that will shape my tone in my band and i would like to have a focus to what i want if i havent seen a pick up that has once been used in what im looking for then trusting an opinion as good as it maybe just wont reassure me afterall you are faceless and voicless people with strange names talking to me through a system of wires.
I wanted a broad idea of what i should look into and the painkillers and holydiver where the two that i like and i thank the two people who suggested that.
I didnt want to be barked at by rabid dogs just because i simply didnt think one pick up would be suited despite it being bare knuckles most famouse of all well its the one im aware of
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your entilted to any opinions of gear you have but I have a NB set and I'll tell you its anything but "glammy"
I also have an old ,battery power only fuzz factory like he has and I wouldnt say it sounds anything like "glammy" either .
To me A sound or genre is in the playing style and note choice more than what gear you use. but its cool, like you said its your cash and if thats how you see it go with your gut man
Best way to choose a pick up is to play the one you are repalcing and ask yourself "what do i want to change in the tone ?" tighter or looser bass, low mid focus or high, smooth top or cutting bite ? then you'll get more good advice on what might work
And I would add if your are upgrading your amp to the JCM I would do that 1st. Your tone ,and what your tone to be, from the little practise amp to standing in front or a roaring head is going to be completly different .
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.Matt bellamy is my guitar hero and was the first thing to influence me to pick up the guitar if i where to get equipment he used like the Nailbomb which i think he has a signature version of now it would just play his stuff it would be the same if i got his guitar or his Fuzz factory.
When I heard Chris George plaing Nailbomb in his LP I just dedided thatīs my pickup....When I played it in my guitar I wasnīt so excited...Perhaps I forgot that he plays Marshalls....But with my setup /amp+cab/ it sounded bad....
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To me A sound or genre is in the playing style and note choice more than what gear you use. but its cool, like you said its your cash and if thats how you see it go with your gut man
I fully agree. You need to make up your mind as to what musical statement you want to make and then choose the tools for that. If it is a problem that someone else uses the same tool this can be solved as long as there's another suítable tool.
Best way to choose a pick up is to play the one you are repalcing and ask yourself "what do i want to change in the tone ?" tighter or looser bass, low mid focus or high, smooth top or cutting bite ? then you'll get more good advice on what might work
I agree that this is the best approach. Unfortunately that will not work for the OP since his bridge pickup appears to be broken.
To the OP: have you checked the wiring of the bridge pickup and the pots - just to make sure? I am asking this because pickups rarely fail even though it does happen.
And I would add if your are upgrading your amp to the JCM I would do that 1st. Your tone ,and what your tone to be, from the little practise amp to standing in front or a roaring head is going to be completly different .
Agreed again but he will need a new pickup anyway because his old one is broken.
To the OP: I have played both the Nailbomb and the Holydiver in the same guitar and would say they are suited for the same kinds of music - if that is of any help.
Cheers Stephan
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Ah I missed that broken pick up start and picked it up halfway when it got firery
But a broken pu is pretty rare unless you tried to pull it apart and a wire snapped.
op have you checked the solders like darkblue said ? Most likely one has just broken off somewhere
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I don't get how you don't get it...
If you buy a NB you'll only play stuff by/like Matt Bellamy? Really?
We may be a bunch of faceless, voiceless names on an internet forum, but you came here for advice because a few of those faceless, voiceless names do know a heck of a lot about BKPs in particular, and can advise you, who haven't yet got one, about what is likely or unlikely to work for you, with your gear and your styles. To rule out a pickup up front based on the name of the pickup or 1 or 2 anecdotes is just ridiculous, especially when it's very likely your ideal pickup for punk!
It's like me saying: I want an Android phone that's got 2 cores and rear and front facing cameras, but the Samsung Galaxy S2 won't do for me because it's got the letter S in it. It's that ridiculous! If you don't understand how your statement relates to that, I don't think anyone can help you.
For what it's worth, I really don't think the painkiller would suit you. You should be looking at the slightly lower output (and probably AlNiCo) humbuckers or P90s based on what you asked for.
The Holy Diver would likely work a treat (being broadly similar to the Nailbomb in some ways). Amusingly, that's probably the best BKP at delivering Glam, though. Hahah :D Still, you know best about the Nailbomb, eh!
Oh yeah, and by the way, if you don't like the pickup, you just send it back to Tim to exchange it for something more appropriate. If you follow Tim's advice (have you asked him yet? The man knows his pickups better than any of us here!), you'll VERY VERY likely get the perfect pickup for you. His suggestions are without question the most accurate of any you'll get anywhere. If you've not done so already, phone or e-mail BKP with your requirements (but just for giggles, how about not ruling out the NB without trying it, eh?).
Good luck with the choice.
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your entilted to any opinions of gear you have but I have a NB set and I'll tell you its anything but "glammy"
I also have an old ,battery power only fuzz factory like he has and I wouldnt say it sounds anything like "glammy" either .
Best way to choose a pick up is to play the one you are repalcing and ask yourself "what do i want to change in the tone ?" tighter or looser bass, low mid focus or high, smooth top or cutting bite ? then you'll get more good advice on what might work
And I would add if your are upgrading your amp to the JCM I would do that 1st. Your tone ,and what your tone to be, from the little practise amp to standing in front or a roaring head is going to be completly different .
well what i want from the bridge is hard to describe i need a higher output definatly because palm mutimg and harmonics didnt pick up so well and i was told a higher output would solve that so the nailbomb/holydiver and painkiller will solve that surely
My bridge is broken but i will look to change my amp but that is a challenge in a half trying to find the right one. Marshall jcm does appeal to me just finding one used on the market thats the problem
i may go the 50 DSL used in punk and metal so it sounds like something i want but the jcm 800 had 2 output for high and low gain which i could put a line selecter to thats what really sold it but il try and dsl 50. I also looked at the vintage modern which i also like but i havent tried it id need to know its volume controls better as it is confusing and i dont want to gig with a plexi amp and make my audiance deaf but i would like some gain.
Out of curiosity give me some advice on what suits the dsl 50 and vintage modern
the zvex fuzz factory isnt glammy i didnt say it was i hope anyway it's pne of those things matt bellamy used alot i got got a similar one for the sake of playing plug in baby.
until i see a good example of a nailbomb being used in punk then i would coinceder it but the holydiver has been said to be a better JB and the JB is used alot in punk and pain killers was recommended by a guy who played music in my area too hence why i coinceder them more.
I have heard the nailbomb and its a good pick up but it isnt what i want i decided to compare the tones from youtube videos and the Holydiver sounds that little bit brighter or atleast nicer to me for what i want
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU)
umm i dont know why that was left but thats not what i want il show links to what i want to hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZyZAGyFbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_rf2ysGhM&feature=related
thats the hard core im into
at the drive in
green day
i want to pick this genre as i relate to it alot better then muse or metal genre i do love metallica and iron maiden and also like lighter genre like kings of leon and such
im into all music it just that heavy style of punk that gets me going and euthasitic and its relatable
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-8aipuDILs)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAyqaLpJTQg&feature=related)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14Rn09k6DqU)
umm i dont know why that was left but thats not what i want il show links to what i want to hear
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZyZAGyFbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oq_rf2ysGhM&feature=related
thats the hard core im into
at the drive in
green day
i want to pick this genre as i relate to it alot better then muse or metal genre i do love metallica and iron maiden and also like lighter genre like kings of leon and such
im into all music it just that heavy style of punk that gets me going and euthasitic and its relatable
For that stuff you can go even with Miracle Man or with any contemporary pickup..Itīs all about your personal feeling when you play in front of your amp but there is no big diference when you compare already recorded stuff...
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well what i want from the bridge is hard to describe i need a higher output definatly because palm mutimg and harmonics didnt pick up so well and i was told a higher output would solve that so the nailbomb/holydiver and painkiller will solve that surely
My bridge is broken but i will look to change my amp but that is a challenge in a half trying to find the right one. Marshall jcm does appeal to me just finding one used on the market thats the problem
i may go the 50 DSL used in punk and metal so it sounds like something i want but the jcm 800 had 2 output for high and low gain which i could put a line selecter to thats what really sold it but il try and dsl 50. I also looked at the vintage modern which i also like but i havent tried it id need to know its volume controls better as it is confusing and i dont want to gig with a plexi amp and make my audiance deaf but i would like some gain.
Out of curiosity give me some advice on what suits the dsl 50 and vintage modern[/quote]
yeah choosing an amp is a big deal . PU's are cheap enough to replace and you can always sell em easy on ebay if you dont like what you choose . Amp choice is also a much bigger decsion on your sound than PU's . PU sound can easily be fined tuned with the amps eq or an eq pedal .
pick ups just dont break. well I've never seen one break other than a home modding job gone wrong . Most likely a solder has come off the switch or pot or a solder has gone cold . easy to diagnose and easy and cheap to fix.If you cant do it yourself a tech shouldnt take more than 10 minutes to find and fix .
High output is not neccesarliy needed for a strong palm mute and harmonics sound depending on the amp you use . dont get me wrong you dont want low output but mid is fine as a hot ,loud amp will do most of the work for you. I generally like higher output myself but there is something to be said for a mid gain PU into a hot high gain amp espeially for a more punk sound in my opinion .
best thing you can do is go to every store you can get to and play every amp they have even if you cant afford to buy it. you'll at least discover your perfect sound and then you can work out how to acheive it on your budget .
And if you wanna play hardcore punk stuff I wouldnt worry about not wanting to deafen your audience. most likely they want to be defeaned :twisted:
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green day and at the drive in? thats not hardcore :S
That may explain why you're not into the nailbomb.
The reason i showed you those videos was because those artists used Nailbombs!
And real hardcore, the hardcore we thought of is stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5_-J-7YM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5_-J-7YM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMG1xs0rs_U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMG1xs0rs_U&feature=related)
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pick ups just dont break. well I've never seen one break other than a home modding job gone wrong . Most likely a solder has come off the switch or pot or a solder has gone cold . easy to diagnose and easy and cheap to fix.If you cant do it yourself a tech shouldnt take more than 10 minutes to find and fix .
Well they do occasionally break but it's very rare and it usually doesn't happen quickly. Let's say if you play an uncovered pickup in the bridge, gig a lot with the guitar and sweat strongly, the pickup may corrode over a certain period of time and the wire insulation may become brittle and create shorts in the winding. But even that is a very rare incident. So first thing is always to check the wiring, pots and switches.
Cheers Stephan
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green day and at the drive in? thats not hardcore :S
That may explain why you're not into the nailbomb.
The reason i showed you those videos was because those artists used Nailbombs!
And real hardcore, the hardcore we thought of is stuff like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5_-J-7YM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaS5_-J-7YM)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMG1xs0rs_U&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMG1xs0rs_U&feature=related)
At the drive in is a post hardcore band and green day isnt off course i dont i said they where i just like them
i watched the vidoes and didnt like them i also sent a message to Tim he told me that when he designed the Nailbomb he wanted it to do 80s metal but soon it found its way into modern metal and pogressive rock and holydiver has a better bass and is a warmer tone essentailly
I dont how my humbucker broke it essentailly what happens i use the bridge and i hear nothing and only if i play really agressively it starts to pick up noise but it cancels out quickly so sustain is reduced
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what happens i use the bridge and i hear nothing
No signal or no noise?
and only if i play really agressively it starts to pick up noise but it cancels out quickly so sustain is reduced
Does it do this also when you play directly into the amp, i.e. without the pedal? And did I understand it correctly that it does not do this when you play through the neck pickup? Does the bridge pickup do the same thing when you turn down the guitar volume a little?
Sorry for all these questions but I just want to make sure that there is no further problem in the signal chain.
Cheers Stephan
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what happens i use the bridge and i hear nothing
No signal or no noise?
and only if i play really agressively it starts to pick up noise but it cancels out quickly so sustain is reduced
Does it do this also when you play directly into the amp, i.e. without the pedal? And did I understand it correctly that it does not do this when you play through the neck pickup? Does the bridge pickup do the same thing when you turn down the guitar volume a little?
Sorry for all these questions but I just want to make sure that there is no further problem in the signal chain.
Cheers Stephan
sorry for the wait
essentailly what happens is at high volume straght into the amp rarely no pedal
i also play into a zoom multi fx with headphones
I play chords and single notes gently as you do and noting maybe a faint wisper then i play aggressively and it kicks to life and slowly dies out
when i roll done the volume i don't the problem persist but im abit hazzy so give me the two options of whats wrong if so.
No this dosent happen to the neck the neck plays fine if anything it now plays alot better then the bridge as it has lost the quality it once had it dosent sound like the bridge i played through when i put my hands on the guitar
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At the drive-in and green day =/= hardcore.
thread implodes.
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TL DRed most of the previous posts, anyone bring up the fact that if you're playing a bolt-on epiphone thru a 15w Marshall MG? There's way more important things to address than pickups for finding your own tone, let alone bringing that rig on stage. People are free to spend their money as they please, but new guitar/amp will be more constructive towards building 'your own tone'.
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TL DRed most of the previous posts, anyone bring up the fact that if you're playing a bolt-on epiphone thru a 15w Marshall MG? There's way more important things to address than pickups for finding your own tone, let alone bringing that rig on stage. People are free to spend their money as they please, but new guitar/amp will be more constructive towards building 'your own tone'.
My bridge humbucker is broken and im getting a marshall dsl 50 with the money i has safed up up
also i didnt say at the drive in or green day where hardcore i said i liked them atdi are post hardcore how ever and generally green day do sound similar to rise against at times
i wasnt actully going to go on stage with a practice amp jesus read prevous post and to be honest whats worst go on with the wrong amp or a humbucker that dosent work?
and my guitar is perfect it cost me 200 pounds and is essenrailly and epiphone specail body with gibson pick up and mahagony body no bass wood it has a bolt on neck but so do fenders A PROBLEM? if theres one thing i would change i would get ridof the tone knob and get another volume to control clean and dirty for the other pick and maybe a bridge thats a bit toughter im very happy with it and only death will seperate us.
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Didn't mean to slag your guitar :) I've only dealt with the few of the Epi Specials that came in to my shop for set ups. Epiphone makes a solid piece from time to time tho glad to hear you got a good one. But ya that marshall mg's gotta go lol :lol:
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Didn't mean to slag your guitar :) I've only dealt with the few of the Epi Specials that came in to my shop for set ups. Epiphone makes a solid piece from time to time tho glad to hear you got a good one. But ya that marshall mg's gotta go lol :lol:
Im aware i have bagged a marshall dsl 50
iv said this before im not an idoit on what i have to do
im going to get a marshall dsl 50 and pedal not sure the zoom will be there for the wah and noise gate i may need a good destortion but i want to see how far i can drive this dsl 50 tone wise to see is it dirty enough im keeping it simple
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what happens i use the bridge and i hear nothing
No signal or no noise?
and only if i play really agressively it starts to pick up noise but it cancels out quickly so sustain is reduced
Does it do this also when you play directly into the amp, i.e. without the pedal? And did I understand it correctly that it does not do this when you play through the neck pickup? Does the bridge pickup do the same thing when you turn down the guitar volume a little?
Sorry for all these questions but I just want to make sure that there is no further problem in the signal chain.
Cheers Stephan
sorry for the wait
essentailly what happens is at high volume straght into the amp rarely no pedal
i also play into a zoom multi fx with headphones
I play chords and single notes gently as you do and noting maybe a faint wisper then i play aggressively and it kicks to life and slowly dies out
when i roll done the volume i don't the problem persist but im abit hazzy so give me the two options of whats wrong if so.
No this dosent happen to the neck the neck plays fine if anything it now plays alot better then the bridge as it has lost the quality it once had it dosent sound like the bridge i played through when i put my hands on the guitar
I was just asking because I have an old Bill Lawrence pickup that has so much output that it distorts everything you plug it into. But it seems that sheer output is not causing the problems you describe. Unless there is no wiring error - which we still have not ruled out - I think the bridge pickup is broken and needs to be replaced irrespective of the amp.
Cheers Stephan
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the DSL50 has a load of gain.
considering the newer info, maybe something lower output like a riff raff would be better
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Back to the drawing board i guess maybe buy the amp first and then make a decision on what to do pick up wise
the HD looks to be the winner but only based on gut and reviews