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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Mr. Air on October 20, 2011, 07:07:43 PM

Title: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics AND CLIPS
Post by: Mr. Air on October 20, 2011, 07:07:43 PM
I've been in the market for a good decent strat for some time now, but could never really justify spending a lot of money on one so I have tried some cheapos which got my hooked on the strat tone, but didn't really cut it playable and tone wise. Hopefully my strat-thirst will now be quenched as I have just picked up a new second hand strat.

It's a chambered alder body from Warmoth which have a gold finish and relicing. The neck is from Allparts - maple with a rosewood board, nitro finish and it has been refretted not so long ago. I really dig the looks of the guitar and it has a certain mojo going on with the reliced look and the matching cigarette burn at the headstock.

I'm really tempted to get a set of Milks for this guitar, but can't really afford it right now so I'll throw in a Stormy bridge with middle and neck Apaches. Hopefully that combo will deliver the goods.

If anyone has good suggestions concerning what pots and caps I should use as well as color of the pickguard and knobs I'm all ears  :D

Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 07:45:56 PM
As a recent gold convert, that's gonna look great!

Standard 250k audio taper CPS pots should see you right, and maybe mint green plastic?

Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Andrew W on October 20, 2011, 08:23:15 PM
I think Twinfan meant CTS pots...but yeah, them. WD Music do a Strat rewiring kit that has all you need.

I think a tortoise shell pickguard would suit the guitar, maybe with black knobs and pickup covers perhaps?
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Telerocker on October 20, 2011, 08:47:14 PM
Wow man, that looks just great. I would love to have a HSS-strat in this color.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Twinfan on October 20, 2011, 08:48:10 PM
Whoops - typo!  Yep, CTS pots  :)
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: choucas09 on October 20, 2011, 09:13:42 PM
A very promising looking guitar. Pickguard-wise Warmoth have some nice colours. Personally on that I'd go for Brown Shell or Anaconda with cream or parchment covers and knobs.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 20, 2011, 09:31:55 PM
I'm sure it will look very cool!

I think a 1 ply white pickguard with white or cream pickups/knobs would be good to keep the gold on focus!
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: roland_rat on October 20, 2011, 10:12:26 PM
That looks nice. Hope you enjoy it once it is finished.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Philly Q on October 20, 2011, 10:49:21 PM
White (or aged white) pearloid!
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Telerocker on October 20, 2011, 11:14:03 PM
White (or aged white) pearloid!

+1
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Andrew W on October 21, 2011, 07:41:13 AM
White (or aged white) pearloid!
Actually, Mr Q is right, I change my suggestion from tortoiseshell to mother of toilet seat. Good call.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: AndyR on October 21, 2011, 08:22:29 AM
Yep, I'm not a big fan of pearloid, but I have to say I think Philly might be right on this. Fernando's suggestion seems pretty good too, for keeping the gold in focus. Probably my first instinctive thought would be like like Twinfan - mint green - I'd like it, but I'm not so sure it would actually bring out the best look this one could manage.

Looking forward to see how it turns out... even though you seem to be about to commit the blasphemous "heresy" of putting a humbucker in a strat!! :lol: :wink:

Nice one :D
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Mr. Air on October 21, 2011, 11:54:08 AM
Yep, I'm not a big fan of pearloid, but I have to say I think Philly might be right on this. Fernando's suggestion seems pretty good too, for keeping the gold in focus. Probably my first instinctive thought would be like like Twinfan - mint green - I'd like it, but I'm not so sure it would actually bring out the best look this one could manage.

Looking forward to see how it turns out... even though you seem to be about to commit the blasphemous "heresy" of putting a humbucker in a strat!! :lol: :wink:

Nice one :D

If I had a single coil bridge it would go in for sure. I think I'll throw in a mini switch so I can split the Stormy.

Thanks for all your advice guys. I'll have to see what I decide on, but I'm mostly leaning towards white or aged white pickguard and knobs. The guitar had a white guard when I tried it out and I think that suited it quite well (It also had two humbuckers - don't pass into chock, AndyR  :wink:)

Any suggestion when it comes to strap buttons?
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: horsehead on October 21, 2011, 11:57:32 AM
ooooo tasty!
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Ian Price on October 21, 2011, 11:59:37 AM
Nicely done! Strat GAS.

Looking forward to some pics when it is all sorted.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 21, 2011, 12:11:11 PM
White (or aged white) pearloid!

+1

+2
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Mr. Air on February 12, 2012, 07:50:40 PM
Finally the guitar is done. Well actually it has been for a while, but now everything is in working order and I just had it set up so hopefully I'm in for a lot of strat action in the near future.

As I'm a rookie in the techie business I made a rookie mistake by placing the mini switch in a pretty stupid place as I can't use the edge of the palm to roll off the volume. Well, well. I think you learn from your mistakes (hopefully  :D).

Just to sum it all up: Warmoth chambered alder body, Allparts maple neck with rosewood board, Apache neck and middle and Stormy Monday bridge which is split by the mini switch.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Frank on February 12, 2012, 08:02:54 PM
This thread makes me want to buy a strat.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2012, 08:22:58 PM
Cool!  8)

I haven't tried a chambered Strat body, do you find it makes much difference to the resonance and tone (acoustically or amplified)?
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Telerocker on February 13, 2012, 01:07:48 AM
Damn, that's just look so tasty. Congrats, I'm jealous...
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Mr. Air on February 13, 2012, 06:34:25 AM
Cool!  8)

I haven't tried a chambered Strat body, do you find it makes much difference to the resonance and tone (acoustically or amplified)?

I'm sorry, but I'm not really able to answer your question, Philly. I haven't owned many strats, only two cheapos for a short while, and haven't given any thought to if they were chambered or not, but I'm pretty sure they were solid. Acoustically the new strat is quite loud and that might be caused by the chambering in the body. Amplified I'm not sure  :?
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: 38thBeatle on February 13, 2012, 07:11:24 AM
I really like the look of that guitar my good man. Great colour.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: AndyR on February 13, 2012, 08:25:48 AM
It's well-documented that I'm not too fond of HSS (both looks and what it does for me soundwise), but that looks pretty good sir! :D

Interesting about the chambering. Same as Philly, I'd like to know if it makes much difference as well. In my experience, on strats, quite loud acoustically is a good thing.

Don't worry too much about the switch - getting extra switches onto a strat guard is always a pain. I used to have one, and I think we put it between the two tones (but I only use one tone, anyway). Yours doesn't look too bad, then again I use my little finger rather than my palm to roll it. My guess is that switch is a little in the way, but you'll soon get used to it (and then you'll replace the guard to put the switch where you think it should be, and that'll feel wrong too! :lol:)
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Philly Q on February 13, 2012, 12:10:28 PM
Cool!  8)

I haven't tried a chambered Strat body, do you find it makes much difference to the resonance and tone (acoustically or amplified)?

I'm sorry, but I'm not really able to answer your question, Philly. I haven't owned many strats, only two cheapos for a short while, and haven't given any thought to if they were chambered or not, but I'm pretty sure they were solid. Acoustically the new strat is quite loud and that might be caused by the chambering in the body. Amplified I'm not sure  :?

Fair enough.  In theory the way Warmoth do the chambering, with a "honeycomb" of little cavities, keeps the body quite stiff so it remains more like a solidbody than a Thinline, but they reckon it improves resonance and sustain and gives a warmer sound.  It'll be interesting to see if any or all of those things are true.  If nothing else it keeps the weight down!

(I've got a couple of chambered Tele bodies, but needless to say I haven't used them yet!)
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Mr. Air on February 13, 2012, 12:33:47 PM
Cool!  8)

I haven't tried a chambered Strat body, do you find it makes much difference to the resonance and tone (acoustically or amplified)?

I'm sorry, but I'm not really able to answer your question, Philly. I haven't owned many strats, only two cheapos for a short while, and haven't given any thought to if they were chambered or not, but I'm pretty sure they were solid. Acoustically the new strat is quite loud and that might be caused by the chambering in the body. Amplified I'm not sure  :?

Fair enough.  In theory the way Warmoth do the chambering, with a "honeycomb" of little cavities, keeps the body quite stiff so it remains more like a solidbody than a Thinline, but they reckon it improves resonance and sustain and gives a warmer sound.  It'll be interesting to see if any or all of those things are true.  If nothing else it keeps the weight down!

(I've got a couple of chambered Tele bodies, but needless to say I haven't used them yet!)

The chambering sure keeps the weight down. The guitar is light as a feather. At least compared to my other guitars and especialy the LP clone  :D

You know you want to sell me one of those tele bodies, Philly  :wink: (and a tele neck while we're at it)
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Frank on February 13, 2012, 01:11:32 PM
I'd like to know why we haven't had soundclips yet
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Mr. Air on February 13, 2012, 06:37:37 PM
I'd like to know why we haven't had soundclips yet

I'll se if I can get around to it tomorrow.
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: d1dsj on February 13, 2012, 07:03:25 PM
That looks great! Cool and classy at the same time.... great stuff!
Title: Re: NGD - just not playable yet - UPDATED with pics
Post by: Mr. Air on February 14, 2012, 01:15:57 PM
Here's a clean and a crunch clip. Recorded with the build in mics of a Zoom H4 field recorder. The amp is my Egnater MOD50 and I'm using BMAN module for both clips. Channel A for the cleans and channel B for the crunch. There's a TC Electronic Hall of Fame reverb in the loop set to spring reverb. The cab is a Music Man HD 212 and I have no idea what speakers there's in it. Might be the original and might not. I bought it used almost 10 years ago and at that time I wasn't really thinking about what speakers it had just that it would go well with my Music Man top.

In both clips I go from neck position to bridge where you can hear the Stormy in series and both coils in split (can't remember which split is which).

Please forgive my bad playing and butchering of some old classics  :D

Clean - http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11438587&q=hi

Crunch - http://www.soundclick.com/player/single_player.cfm?songid=11438589&q=hi