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Title: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 22, 2011, 05:15:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7r8uxe_0rQ&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

Lucky Git.

Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: shobet on October 22, 2011, 05:29:01 PM
Still sounds like Bonamassa though, lacks the fire of its original owner...
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 22, 2011, 05:30:29 PM
Definitely^
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Andrew W on October 22, 2011, 06:07:35 PM
What can I say about that video? Well, I like the guitar and I think his singing has got way better.  :?
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 22, 2011, 06:41:45 PM
Look at the fear in his eyes
(http://i1197.photobucket.com/albums/aa427/lezard99/fear.jpg)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: shobet on October 22, 2011, 07:02:34 PM
He had quite a collection bless him. http://www.rorygallagher.com/#/archives

I'm lusting after the 58 strat and the esquire, the amps are rather nice as well...
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Matt77 on October 22, 2011, 07:05:53 PM
Cameltoe!
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: shobet on October 22, 2011, 07:08:26 PM
Cameltoe!

Oh happy days! It's about the only thing I can remember about that gig.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Tellboy on October 22, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
He had quite a collection bless him. http://www.rorygallagher.com/#/archives

I'm lusting after the 58 strat and the esquire, the amps are rather nice as well...

My first good guitar was a white 1966 Tele identicle to the one in Rory's collection - couldn't/can't play it like Rory did though  :( . Exchanged it for the 1963 SG Standard which I still have.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Twinfan on October 22, 2011, 10:55:20 PM
Cameltoe!

Oh happy days! It's about the only thing I can remember about that gig.

me too!  :lol:
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Telerocker on October 23, 2011, 12:47:46 AM
Just my taste, but I rather would like to see this guitar in the hands of John Mayer.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 23, 2011, 01:25:21 AM
Look at the fear in his eyes

Frightened! :lol:

Who is the cute girl at his side?
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Philly Q on October 23, 2011, 01:37:23 AM
Just my taste, but I rather would like to see this guitar in the hands of John Mayer.

No thanks!  Philip Sayce maybe.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: shobet on October 23, 2011, 11:55:43 AM
Just my taste, but I rather would like to see this guitar in the hands of John Mayer.

No thanks!  Philip Sayce maybe.

Now that would be cooking with gas!
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 23, 2011, 12:29:26 PM
Just my taste, but I rather would like to see this guitar in the hands of John Mayer.

No thanks!  Philip Sayce maybe.

Now that would be cooking with gas!

No, you're all wrong...

The person you most want to see playing it is me :lol:

EDIT: Just watched (some) of the vid... complete sacrilege, get that swine off of it!!! (I don't mind JB, but he's not the bloke I'd have picked to play it... probably Donal thinks Rory should have played more like that :lol:)

Just goes to show though - tone is in the fingers/wotever, how the player uses the instrument, plays the thing, dials in his amp, etc, etc. It's a nice tone he's making, but it's definitely not the tone we associate with that guitar...
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Tellboy on October 23, 2011, 01:35:13 PM
Just goes to show though - tone is in the fingers/wotever, how the player uses the instrument, plays the thing, dials in his amp, etc, etc. It's a nice tone he's making, but it's definitely not the tone we associate with that guitar...
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+1 - I like some of Joe's playing but that guitar sounded much better in Rory's hands.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 23, 2011, 01:44:26 PM
Yep, he makes it sound just like any other guitar...

Actually (given my laptop speakers and it's lumpy/jumpy video streaming), if you'd just played the audio to me and asked me what guitar he was playing, I'd have guessed a Les Paul :roll:

Equally, I was amazed to discover recently that several of Rory's "signature strat sounds" on later studio albums were actually P90s and the odd humbucker! :lol:. There's one album, Defender, I think it was, where the strat only appears on one or two tracks.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Matt77 on October 23, 2011, 02:47:59 PM
Look at the fear in his eyes

Frightened! :lol:

Who is the cute girl at his side?

It be this lady:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2jDz6w-r4
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: HTH AMPS on October 23, 2011, 04:47:28 PM
nice tone from Rory's Strat, but like has been said before - doesn't sound much like a Strat for the most part, towards the end (6 mins in) it sounds a bit more Stratty, maybe changed pickup settings.

Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: FernandoDuarte on October 23, 2011, 06:00:21 PM
Look at the fear in his eyes

Frightened! :lol:

Who is the cute girl at his side?

It be this lady:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vc2jDz6w-r4

^^ thanks!
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: MrBump on October 24, 2011, 07:59:12 AM
Speaking of Bonnamassa...

My drummer was here the other night:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsaBnmp8r0&feature=share (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDsaBnmp8r0&feature=share)

Sounds pretty good.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 10:08:53 AM
disappointing indeed.

it doesn't that sound much like a strat as Andy says, but there a few moments where you can hear a bit of strattyness.

going to listen to some edgey Rory stuff now to clean out my ears.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 24, 2011, 10:30:53 AM
going to listen to some edgey Rory stuff now to clean out my ears.

:lol:

I had to do similar yesterday (I did it by putting my 335 down and plugging my Roadworn 60s strat in and blasting out a few Rory riffs :D)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: blue on October 24, 2011, 03:28:42 PM
Bonamassa just does nothing for me, i don't get the fuss over him.  no fire or passion that i can see.  but then, i never really got the fuss over SRV, and it's completely beyond me why so many people want to sound like him
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2011, 05:04:34 PM
Bonamassa just does nothing for me, i don't get the fuss over him.  no fire or passion that i can see.  but then, i never really got the fuss over SRV, and it's completely beyond me why so many people want to sound like him

Agreed on JB, disagreed on SRV!  :D
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: blue on October 24, 2011, 05:32:40 PM
i wasn't comparing SRV to JB, just to be clear, totally different kettle of fish! :)  i just, personally, don't really get the SRV worship.  i don't get the Randy Rhoads thing either, to be honest  :o

should i be shot?
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Tellboy on October 24, 2011, 06:11:17 PM
i wasn't comparing SRV to JB, just to be clear, totally different kettle of fish! :)  i just, personally, don't really get the SRV worship.  i don't get the Randy Rhoads thing either, to be honest  :o

should i be shot?

Perhaps we ought to start a thread of 'guitarists we don't get' - SRV, Randy Rhoads and JB could join the other JB (Jeff Beck) to start things off  :D
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2011, 07:07:03 PM
i wasn't comparing SRV to JB, just to be clear, totally different kettle of fish! :)  i just, personally, don't really get the SRV worship.  i don't get the Randy Rhoads thing either, to be honest  :o

Oh no, I didn't think you were comparing JB with SRV - very different players.  But I think SRV deserved all the praise and worship he got (and nothing to do with his tragic death, either!)

Since we're off topic, Randy Rhoads I like - but my favourite Ozzy guitarist was Jake E Lee (not forgetting Brad Gillis's fantastic work on Talk of the Devil!)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 24, 2011, 07:41:16 PM
:lol:

blue, mebbe there is "SRV worship" in certain quarters, but I don't think that generally it's as "worshiping" as a lot of people tend to think.

I am one of the folks who highly regard his playing of strats - he's just another (very good) guitarist on other instruments for me.

When he first appeared, it was jaw-dropping. Suddenly there was this "so that's what you can do with a strat" thing going on. Basically, if you attack a strat that hard, that cleanly, using Howlin' Wolf etc licks, that's what you get. He won't have been the first to do it, but he's the first I heard, and it's a sound I wanted to be able to make.

It actually took me 20-odd years, on and off, to find out how to do it :lol:. It turns out it's nothing to do with having the right pickups, amp, tube-screamer, wotever. It's all about how you attack the guitar and keep control of it and yourself. It's a style of playing that he was VERY good at, and not many can do it and keep it up for the whole of a song, let alone a whole gig.

And anyone who does manage it now is accused of sounding like SRV! :lol: (That's a bit of an achievement for him  in itself).

Wouldn't say I worship him though. And I suspect that many others who seem to worship him view it in the same kind of  way :D.

EDIT: Probably the same arguments can be applied (with different detail) to all sorts of guitar super-stars.

Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 08:56:25 PM
EDIT: Probably the same arguments can be applied (with different detail) to all sorts of guitar super-stars.

i think the same about Uli Roth (another great strat player). you just need a strat, and the right vibrato, attitude to bends, and volume control technique. these days i can sound Uli-like when I want to, but yes its hard to keep up for a long time!! obviously i can't match his impossible speed either, so don't even try ;)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: gwEm on October 24, 2011, 08:58:48 PM
as for SRV, doesn't float my boat at all!  :(
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 24, 2011, 10:06:33 PM
I quite like Joe , but I see it more as seeing several decent tribute acts at once.

I don't get the fuss about slash myself.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Philly Q on October 24, 2011, 10:18:50 PM
I don't get the fuss about slash myself.

Oooh, I'm with you there!!  :lol:

I think you might get a few voices of dissent.

This really should be a thread of its own.  Doing it now....

Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: horsehead on October 25, 2011, 12:29:32 PM
I kinda feel bad for Joe in 1 way as when you've got that guitar in your hands the weight of expectation must be huge! But then again I don't feel much emotion from him, I enjoy his playing, but it seems sterile at the moment & I'd rather hear Rory than Joe any day
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: choucas09 on October 25, 2011, 04:32:32 PM
 Well music is in the ear of the beholder I suppose. Personally I could hear fire and emotion in that clip and in JB's general playing.

 I can however understand why, now that this icon has re-emerged that people would want it to sound like it did. Well anyway now it's out and about again maybe someone will do something with it along those lines.

 Being ancient I saw that guitar in Rory's hands when he was in Taste at the Civic W-hampton and I was about 15/16. Imagine what that did to a spotty youth.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Tellboy on October 25, 2011, 05:09:03 PM
Being ancient I saw that guitar in Rory's hands when he was in Taste at the Civic W-hampton and I was about 15/16. Imagine what that did to a spotty youth.

Also being ancient I saw this (1.25 in video) at the IOW festival. Although I was not near the front of the stage it was rather a large muffty and was well visible. Imagine what that did to a very young spotty kid  :?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBagcBSavIM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBagcBSavIM)

Rory's slide tele playing was also excellent.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Philly Q on October 25, 2011, 05:48:29 PM
^ Wow, I'm not as ancient as I thought!  :o

I didn't get to see any gigs until the very end of the '70s.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: choucas09 on October 25, 2011, 05:52:10 PM
Wish she'd been at the gig I went too.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: horsehead on October 26, 2011, 06:41:27 AM
I wish I was that old and got to experience Rory live :(
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 26, 2011, 07:32:34 PM
Ah Rory's Strat eh? Well Joe aint the only one to have played it......
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 27, 2011, 08:58:48 AM
Ah Rory's Strat eh? Well Joe aint the only one to have played it......

Yeah, I thought of you when this thread first started.

So, Joe Bonamassa has finally had the privilege of trying out one of the guitars that one of our very own BKP forumites played :lol:

Add to that that I touched it a few times myself - there's probably others on here who did as well - Joe must feel really honoured now :D
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 27, 2011, 07:17:10 PM
Ah Rory's Strat eh? Well Joe aint the only one to have played it......

Yeah, I thought of you when this thread first started.

So, Joe Bonamassa has finally had the privilege of trying out one of the guitars that one of our very own BKP forumites played :lol:

Add to that that I touched it a few times myself - there's probably others on here who did as well - Joe must feel really honoured now :D

How'd that happen?
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: 38thBeatle on October 27, 2011, 07:24:35 PM
Well I have told this story before but hey:

Many years ago, when I were a mere lad, a mate & I had occasion to visit a certain guitar shop and  in the workshop, there was a guitar on the bench. We were told not to touch because it belongs to Rory etc etc. Well you can guess the rest I am sure.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 27, 2011, 07:30:22 PM
Yes, I believe I can  :)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: AndyR on October 27, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
My story's not so impressive - I was at the front at several gigs where I can remember taking part in the holy "touch-the-guitar" ritual :lol:.
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: blue on October 27, 2011, 08:50:48 PM
my only "star guitar touching incident" was when i went to see Juliette and the Licks in Dublin.  i was in the front row, and guitarist Todd Morse managed to clink me on the head with his Les Paul.  i also got Juliette's knee to the top of the head at one point, but she managed to hit me a few times at various shows :)
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Lezard on October 27, 2011, 09:25:12 PM
My story's not so impressive - I was at the front at several gigs where I can remember taking part in the holy "touch-the-guitar" ritual :lol:.

Still pretty impressive imo, I'd give my left leg to be up front at a Rory gig.


i also got Juliette's knee to the top of the head at one point, but she managed to hit me a few times at various shows :)

What were you trying to do to her?
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: Tellboy on October 28, 2011, 09:59:53 AM
i also got Juliette's knee to the top of the head at one point,  :)

I can think of plenty worse things to have on the top of my head ... do quite like Ms Lewis  PDT_037
Title: Re: Joe Bonnamassa playing Rory's Strat
Post by: blue on October 28, 2011, 12:46:04 PM
i saw them a few times, and actually ended up getting drunk with the band once! (although she wasn't there).  she has a habit of milling around the front then leaping into the crowd, and every time she did it when we were there, she seemed to do it right over my head, after the second time i considered bringing a hard hat :)
i did get to meet her, and she was lovely.

not much to do with Joe Bonamassa or Rory Gallagher though.  ah!  there is a statue of Rory quite near the venue where i saw them!  and i believe Bonamassa has played there too :)