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Title: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on October 30, 2011, 01:58:13 PM
"Borrowed" the idea from fbloke, who brought it up in the "Guitarists you don't get" thread. All credit to him.

So, who never got the respect and recognition they deserved? Who's toiling away in unmerited obscurity?

For me, two names always come up.
Criss Oliva. Savatage's metal master. One of the greatest allround heavy metal guitarists of the era. Killer riffs and insane soloing. Never got him any credit outside the metal scene. Guitar mags never bothered with him, to the point they even ignored his death. Not a single column inch...
Required listening : Savatage's Gutter Ballet may be the easiest introduction.

Mark Reale. Has been leading Riot since the late seventies. Best known for the Fire Down Under album, Riot have kept going, releasing good album after good album. He stepped up his game in the second half of the eighties and laid the blueprint of power metal with the brilliant Thundersteel album. Check out the riffs in the title track.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Telerocker on October 30, 2011, 04:07:09 PM
"Borrowed" the idea from fbloke, who brought it up in the "Guitarists you don't get" thread. All credit to him.

So, who never got the respect and recognition they deserved? Who's toiling away in unmerited obscurity?

For me, two names always come up.
Criss Oliva. Savatage's metal master. One of the greatest allround heavy metal guitarists of the era. Killer riffs and insane soloing. Never got him any credit outside the metal scene. Guitar mags never bothered with him, to the point they even ignored his death. Not a single column inch...
Required listening : Savatage's Gutter Ballet may be the easiest introduction.

Mark Reale. Has been leading Riot since the late seventies. Best known for the Fire Down Under album, Riot have kept going, releasing good album after good album. He stepped up his game in the second half of the eighties and laid the blueprint of power metal with the brilliant Thundersteel album. Check out the riffs in the title track.

I always liked Andy Summers. Maybe bec The Police was something new in my young years.  But Andy plays nice jazzy stuff too.
Jan Akkerman, the guitarist from early Focus, has been underrated all his life and he is a bit pissed about that himself.

Vid from 1973, but still fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Elliot on October 30, 2011, 04:44:33 PM
I reckon Eric Clapton is pretty underrated these days  :P
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 30, 2011, 05:37:11 PM
Chris Oliva
Dave Meniketti
Mark Kendall
John Norum
Bob Kulick
Russ Parish!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Nephilim on October 30, 2011, 05:38:52 PM
I personally think Jake E. Lee is a very underated guitarist. I think because he came straight after Randy Rhoads, people were still getting over Randy's death as well as how much of a great guitarist he was! U listen to the 2 Ozzy albums Jake E. lee was on, and you can't help but to really appreciate his style, as well as his inventiveness. To name a well known song: Shot in the Dark was a great song in terms of uniquness. He tuned his guitar to a weird tuning, and managed to creat a great opening out of harmonics and bending the strings behind the nut. He really was on a different level when it came to songwriting.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Dmoney on October 30, 2011, 05:41:39 PM
Dr Know of Bad Brains fame. Easily one of the most influential but most overlooked players.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 30, 2011, 06:34:46 PM
+1 to a few of those mentioned already.

Brad Gillis
Chris Poland
Andy Powell, Ted Turner and Laurie Wisefield
Rick Derringer
Michael Amott
Alex Lifeson
Richie Kotzen
Reb Beach (but only with Winger!)
Kerry Livgren
Dann Huff
Ronnie Montrose
Ty Tabor
Mike Slamer
Jason Bieler
Stevie Salas
Bruce Franklin and Rick Wartell (of Trouble)

None of those guys are exactly unknowns, but I don't think they get as much recognition as they deserve.  I think they're all pretty special.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 30, 2011, 06:48:00 PM
GEOFF TYSON!!! or Jeff Tyson back in T-Ride.

He could do it all, possibly the most creative rhythm player in rock/metal plus unbelievable skills. Made Nuno who was getting all the praise at the time look shitee.

Sadly, Nevermind has just hit and the market died so they never got the credit they deserved.  :(

His solo piece from the album:
http://youtu.be/rI5OgDLbMRA

And a more representative song:

http://youtu.be/c10fsnP6N5I


Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: dave_mc on October 30, 2011, 06:58:49 PM
In addition to those already mentioned (because I agree with a lot of them... the ones i've heard of, anyway :oops: ) phil collen, probably. I mean he's pretty famous because of def leppard, but he never seems to get that much credit as a player.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gordiji on October 30, 2011, 07:26:51 PM
agree with telerocker about Jan Akkerman and philly with Ronnie Montrose. i loved montrose in the late 70's and saw
them in a smallish bar in california in 92, kind of thought wow is ronnie still playing and play he did, superb rock blueser.
i'd have to add George Benson, ok he's world famous, but probably for his disco stuff. outside jazz circles no one
pays much attention but he's another i saw live in the 90's and his ability floored me.stunning.
i've not seen Phil Sayce but i think he'd be on my list too, 'i get him'. i know he's liked on the forum.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on October 30, 2011, 07:43:15 PM
Most of the guys mentioned here do at least get some mention in the specialised press from time to time.

Chris Oliva
Dave Meniketti
Mark Kendall
John Norum
Bob Kulick
Russ Parish!!!!!!!
An excellent list. Kendall is a very tasty bluesy player. Parrish is a killer. Meniketti... we are not worthy.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Madsakre on October 30, 2011, 08:04:35 PM
To me its Candlemass' Lars "Lasse" Johansson. He has such a strong feel in all his solo's. Neoclassical influences, just without the gimmicks. And their music is $%&#ING brilliant!

A must listen must be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uvf0cn0jo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uvf0cn0jo) - Actually a must see :D Learn the DOOM DANCE :D
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Dmoney on October 30, 2011, 08:11:36 PM
To me its Candlemass' Lars "Lasse" Johansson. He has such a strong feel in all his solo's. Neoclassical influences, just without the gimmicks. And their music is $%&#ING brilliant!

A must listen must be:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uvf0cn0jo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3uvf0cn0jo) - Actually a must see :D Learn the DOOM DANCE :D

Does a good job of miming that solo while having his picking hand in a cast.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on October 30, 2011, 08:16:26 PM
To me its Candlemass' Lars "Lasse" Johansson. He has such a strong feel in all his solo's. Neoclassical influences, just without the gimmicks. And their music is $%&#ING brilliant!
Another great call!!
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: tomjackson on October 30, 2011, 08:40:22 PM
I always thought Robby Krieger was underrated.  At a time while most guitarists were just trying to out blues one another, he was coming up with really original stuff, mixing flamenco, pop, blues and jazz.

Antonio Forcione

Jimmy Page.  Bit tongue in cheeck this one, but he cropped up on the other thread a fair amount as did Hendrix.
I think with these guys they opened doors and pushed boundaries, it's easy to look back and say some of their playing was sloppy but some of the people who don't get them seem to revere the guitarists who started from where they left off.  

Noel Gallagher.  Now I must be taking the P!ss.  But unfortunately not.  I think most choices seem to be based on guitar solos but having learned a lot of cover songs for gigs I'd have to say his songwriting and chord choices are very intresting.  Solos as dull as dishwater but he can write a song.  Now I'm not saying I'm a abig fan, but he is underatted


 
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Kiichi on October 30, 2011, 09:40:12 PM
To me...different people.

Scotti Hill and Dave "the snake" Sabo of Skid Row are forgotten to often, especially when it comes to pinched harmonics. In general great riffs (I love their style), but the solos are just so amazing to me, with the pinched harmonics just in the right space.

Tim Millar and Luke Hoskin of Protest the Hero are not only very fun and insanely nice guys (all of prostes the hero signed the headstock of my Ibbie S, which is just soooo very amazing to me) and are part of one of my favorite bands (their Kezia album is one of my favorite ever by anyone), but very good guitar players, especially when you concider their age.
The music they create by using interresting rythms and scales with the lead work and tapped riffs of Luke over the jazzy high gain chords of Tim...wow.

Trent Reznor of Nine Inch Nails is also often forgotten and what a shame. He is not a technically great guitar player, but his work with sounds and using the guitar outside the box of what we usually hear is, at least to me, bloody good.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 30, 2011, 09:49:35 PM
Bernie Marsden and Micky Moody.

They may not have been technically amazing (although anybody's technically amazing to me), but Whitesnake was an infinitely better band with them than it has been with all the hot-shot guitar players who've joined and left since.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Denim n Leather on October 30, 2011, 10:03:05 PM
Norifuma Shima of Concerto Moon --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xs3njmal_QU



Fumihiko Kitsutaka of XYZ>A --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xD2W3Ho01Tc



Charley Corbiaux and Olivier Lapauze of Heavenly --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_bJWVmbiAQ



Andy Midgley of Power Quest --

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YnTORxEkOv8&feature=related
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Lezard on October 30, 2011, 10:22:53 PM
Jan Akkerman, the guitarist from early Focus, has been underrated all his life and he is a bit pissed about that himself.
Vid from 1973, but still fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q)

+1

anyone get a chance to see him this year? I was floored, he's one of the main reasons I started playing in the first place.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Frank on October 30, 2011, 10:25:51 PM
any votes for Clapton?
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 30, 2011, 10:59:35 PM
For those saying who the heck is Russ Parish ?

He was guitarist in War and Peace (Jeff Pilson's post Dokken group)
then he was in Rob HAlford's fight http://youtu.be/enlkGU6L7qc (http://youtu.be/enlkGU6L7qc)
He was also in Paul Gilbert's Electric Fence

I first saw him live as the Guitarist in LA's Atomic punks - Van Halen tribute,
Check this out - I swear Eddie and Dave can't do it this well
http://youtu.be/sk4LJkJuylw (http://youtu.be/sk4LJkJuylw)

BUT he had a side project with the Punk's singer called Metal Skool, who later changed their name to Steel Panther.
This is how you make a guitar solo fun - Doug Aldrich and Reb Beech take note!!!!

http://youtu.be/S5ZCs9jHo60 (http://youtu.be/S5ZCs9jHo60)

Gets funnier after 4.00 minutes
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 30, 2011, 11:20:42 PM
For those saying who the heck is Russ Parrish ?

Did anyone?  :P

I'm sure I once saw some clips of him playing in a Rush tribute band, too.  They weren't lookalikes or using the same gear etc, just playing the songs really well.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Afghan Dave on October 30, 2011, 11:40:39 PM
To me...different people.

Scotti Hill and Dave "the snake" Sabo of Skid Row are forgotten to often, especially when it comes to pinched harmonics. In general great riffs (I love their style), but the solos are just so amazing to me, with the pinched harmonics just in the right space.

Totally agree, they were awsome live as well.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 31, 2011, 12:44:12 AM
For those saying who the heck is Russ Parrish ?

Did anyone?  :P


No - but I am so enjoying the new Steel Panther album that I was in the mood to share
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 31, 2011, 11:21:45 AM
No - but I am so enjoying the new Steel Panther album that I was in the mood to share

 :lol:

Is it more of the same?  I might have a listen on Spotify.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Elliot on October 31, 2011, 11:47:15 AM
any votes for Clapton?

I already did.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gwEm on October 31, 2011, 12:01:29 PM
Jan Akkerman, the guitarist from early Focus, has been underrated all his life and he is a bit pissed about that himself.

Vid from 1973, but still fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q)

Do you not think the yodelling might have been too much for a 1970s audience?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXBQFYlYOQ
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 31, 2011, 12:33:01 PM
Jan Akkerman, the guitarist from early Focus, has been underrated all his life and he is a bit pissed about that himself.

Vid from 1973, but still fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q)

Do you not think the yodelling might have been too much for a 1970s audience?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXBQFYlYOQ

I don't think there was ever a better time than the 1970s for yodelling at a rock audience.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: darkbluemurder on October 31, 2011, 12:56:34 PM
I personally think Jake E. Lee is a very underated guitarist. I think because he came straight after Randy Rhoads, people were still getting over Randy's death as well as how much of a great guitarist he was! U listen to the 2 Ozzy albums Jake E. lee was on, and you can't help but to really appreciate his style, as well as his inventiveness. To name a well known song: Shot in the Dark was a great song in terms of uniquness. He tuned his guitar to a weird tuning, and managed to creat a great opening out of harmonics and bending the strings behind the nut. He really was on a different level when it came to songwriting.

+1. His songwriting skills also show in his band Badlands. Anyone into 70s hard rock with a contemporary sound should look (or rather hear) into the three Badlands albums.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Nephilim on October 31, 2011, 01:05:10 PM
Buckethead! :)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Madsakre on October 31, 2011, 02:07:50 PM
Buckethead! :)

:D
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Nephilim on October 31, 2011, 02:10:57 PM
I personally think Jake E. Lee is a very underated guitarist. I think because he came straight after Randy Rhoads, people were still getting over Randy's death as well as how much of a great guitarist he was! U listen to the 2 Ozzy albums Jake E. lee was on, and you can't help but to really appreciate his style, as well as his inventiveness. To name a well known song: Shot in the Dark was a great song in terms of uniquness. He tuned his guitar to a weird tuning, and managed to creat a great opening out of harmonics and bending the strings behind the nut. He really was on a different level when it came to songwriting.

+1. His songwriting skills also show in his band Badlands. Anyone into 70s hard rock with a contemporary sound should look (or rather hear) into the three Badlands albums.

Cheers Stephan

I'll definitely check this band out :)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 31, 2011, 02:21:06 PM
I personally think Jake E. Lee is a very underated guitarist. I think because he came straight after Randy Rhoads, people were still getting over Randy's death as well as how much of a great guitarist he was! U listen to the 2 Ozzy albums Jake E. lee was on, and you can't help but to really appreciate his style, as well as his inventiveness. To name a well known song: Shot in the Dark was a great song in terms of uniquness. He tuned his guitar to a weird tuning, and managed to creat a great opening out of harmonics and bending the strings behind the nut. He really was on a different level when it came to songwriting.

+1. His songwriting skills also show in his band Badlands. Anyone into 70s hard rock with a contemporary sound should look (or rather hear) into the three Badlands albums.

Totally agreed, but if we're on the subject of Badlands credit is also due to Ray Gillen (RIP).  What a fantastic singer (and co-writer, even though they didn't get on on a personal level!)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: darkbluemurder on October 31, 2011, 05:12:24 PM

+1. His songwriting skills also show in his band Badlands. Anyone into 70s hard rock with a contemporary sound should look (or rather hear) into the three Badlands albums.

Totally agreed, but if we're on the subject of Badlands credit is also due to Ray Gillen (RIP).  What a fantastic singer (and co-writer, even though they didn't get on on a personal level!)
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I fully agree. Ray is in the same league as Ronnie James Dio (RIP), David Coverdale, Paul Rodgers and only a few others. What a loss.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gwEm on October 31, 2011, 05:28:00 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 31, 2011, 06:36:51 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:

Being ironic?
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Frank on October 31, 2011, 07:27:03 PM
Richard Thompson, both as a guitarist and as a songwriter
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gwEm on October 31, 2011, 07:35:00 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:

Being ironic?

absolutely... but i do think that his current activities make us forget just how good he was at the beginning when he first joined Ozzy
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Denim n Leather on October 31, 2011, 08:09:23 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:

Being ironic?

absolutely... but i do think that his current activities make us forget just how good he was at the beginning when he first joined Ozzy
I dunno about that. His solo material up to and including Blessed Hellride was great ...
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on October 31, 2011, 10:10:06 PM

+1. His songwriting skills also show in his band Badlands. Anyone into 70s hard rock with a contemporary sound should look (or rather hear) into the three Badlands albums.

Totally agreed, but if we're on the subject of Badlands credit is also due to Ray Gillen (RIP).  What a fantastic singer (and co-writer, even though they didn't get on on a personal level!)

I fully agree. Ray is in the same league as Ronnie James Dio (RIP), David Coverdale, Paul Rodgers and only a few others. What a loss.
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A very good point - I went to see Iommi doing his Seventh Star  solo tour in 1986 (although it was billed as Black Sabbath) and was supposed to see Glen Hughes on vocals , and was surprised to see that Glen had been replaced by some unknown American singer (Ray Gillen)
Any potential disappointment  I may have been feeling prior to the gig quickly melted away on hearing Gillen's voice - he was that good and his vocal ability with the Dio era songs was  a total joy.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: JacksonRR on October 31, 2011, 10:27:20 PM
Larry Lalonde
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on October 31, 2011, 10:44:29 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:

Being ironic?

absolutely... but i do think that his current activities make us forget just how good he was at the beginning when he first joined Ozzy
I dunno about that. His solo material up to and including Blessed Hellride was great ...

And I feel I have an obligation under these circumstances to mention the mighty Pride & Glory.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Telerocker on October 31, 2011, 10:52:07 PM
Jan Akkerman, the guitarist from early Focus, has been underrated all his life and he is a bit pissed about that himself.

Vid from 1973, but still fun
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4ouPGGLI6Q)

Do you not think the yodelling might have been too much for a 1970s audience?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCXBQFYlYOQ

I think it fits to Focus at that time, a band that did a lot of experimental songwriting. The keyboardplayer, Thijs van Leer, is still touring with Focus, though he cannot reach the high notes anymore. I can't blame him, cause I can't too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: agentOrAnGe on October 31, 2011, 11:21:34 PM
agree with telerocker about Jan Akkerman and philly with Ronnie Montrose. i loved montrose in the late 70's and saw
them in a smallish bar in california in 92, kind of thought wow is ronnie still playing and play he did, superb rock blueser.
i'd have to add George Benson, ok he's world famous, but probably for his disco stuff. outside jazz circles no one
pays much attention but he's another i saw live in the 90's and his ability floored me.stunning.
i've not seen Phil Sayce but i think he'd be on my list too, 'i get him'. i know he's liked on the forum.
+ 1 for George Benson Great. Would also like to add Josh Homme, Jim Croce and Eddie hazel
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Frank on November 01, 2011, 03:07:19 AM
Richard Thompson, both as a guitarist and as a songwriter

+1 for that, totally agreeing with myself here
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on November 01, 2011, 08:33:50 AM
Richard Thompson, both as a guitarist and as a songwriter

+1 for that, totally agreeing with myself here

I like Richard Thompson, but don't listen to him very often, I must admit.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Mr. Air on November 01, 2011, 07:00:56 PM
I agree with JacksonRR on Larry LaLonde.

Tom Morello. I know he's famous and all, but he doesn't get the horns he deserves.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Mr. Air on November 01, 2011, 07:03:51 PM
Malcolm Young - Tightest rythm guitarist ever. Doesn't Angus get all the credit?
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Telerocker on November 01, 2011, 10:01:42 PM
Malcolm Young - Tightest rythm guitarist ever. Doesn't Angus get all the credit?

He does. Malcolm is the diesel of the band. Keeps things going.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Frank on November 01, 2011, 10:48:40 PM
Are we allowed to like acoustic guitars here? Anyway, Adrian Legg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HcatDJELN0&feature=related
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 01, 2011, 11:30:41 PM
Are we allowed to like acoustic guitars here? Anyway, Adrian Legg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HcatDJELN0&feature=related

no we're not, get to the back of the line right now Mr  :lol:
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Lezard on November 01, 2011, 11:36:07 PM
Are we allowed to like acoustic guitars here? Anyway, Adrian Legg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HcatDJELN0&feature=related

no we're not, get to the back of the line right now Mr  :lol:

quitely slinks away
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Frank on November 01, 2011, 11:45:11 PM
Are we allowed to like acoustic guitars here? Anyway, Adrian Legg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HcatDJELN0&feature=related

no we're not, get to the back of the line right now Mr  :lol:

I feel like I've let everyone down
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: darkbluemurder on November 02, 2011, 03:16:18 PM
Zakk Wylde  :roll:

Being ironic?

absolutely... but i do think that his current activities make us forget just how good he was at the beginning when he first joined Ozzy

+1. No Rest for the Wicked and No More Tears show great guitar tracks. I later bought one BLS record because I read somewhere that this was Southern Rock influenced - man that writer guy surely never heard true Southern Rock or he mixed it up with a different band of Zakk.

Speaking of underrated guitarists, the late Hughie Thomasson of the Outlaws and later Lynyrd Skynyrd belongs here, too; so does Ed King.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Afghan Dave on November 02, 2011, 03:29:32 PM
I later bought one BLS record because I read somewhere that this was Southern Rock influenced - man that writer guy surely never heard true Southern Rock or he mixed it up with a different band of Zakk.

Cheers Stephan

Pride and Glory?

http://youtu.be/vExXSh_FPfA
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: darkbluemurder on November 02, 2011, 05:43:28 PM
Yeah, sounds more like it.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: MrBump on November 03, 2011, 06:44:10 AM
Richard Thompson, both as a guitarist and as a songwriter

Definitely.  A legend.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: MrBump on November 03, 2011, 06:48:00 AM
Malcolm Young - Tightest rythm guitarist ever. Doesn't Angus get all the credit?

Interesting anecdote involving Malcolm and Geezer Butler in Tony Iommis autobiography.  Apparently when AC/DC were supporting Sabbath on a tour of Australia, Geezer and Malcolm didn't get on - they got into a drunken fight and Malcolm pulled a knife of Geezer.

Could have been the other way around though...
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Loomer on November 03, 2011, 10:05:45 AM
Malcolm's a wiry, lean little bar-steward. He looks like someone who'd pull a knife, I'll say that..

As for the topic, my choice would be Leon Macey of Mithras. I absolutely love that guy's work.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Ratrod on November 04, 2011, 09:26:25 AM
Actually it was Geezer who pulled the knife. Ozzy jumped in, called Geezer a c*nt and told him to go to bed.

I don't think Malcolm is underrated anymore.

Bonnie Raitt might be underrated.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXVoOgwiYc8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXVoOgwiYc8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mylo0piAgc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Mylo0piAgc)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on November 04, 2011, 11:20:48 AM
I don't think Malcolm is underrated anymore.

I think that's right - it seems like for 25 years people have been saying how underrated he is, he's the "engine" of the band etc, etc.  And Angus has always given loads of credit to Malcolm.

It's only really non-fans who think of AC/Dc as Angus and nothing else.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gwEm on November 04, 2011, 12:08:44 PM
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3188/2802172093_ae5cfd9851.jpg)

Wolf Hoffmann. I've been working out a few Accept songs recently, some of the riffs are crazy
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 04, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
Wolf Hoffmann. I've been working out a few Accept songs recently, some of the riffs are crazy
Yep. I've been working on Midnight Mover all week.  Lots of tasty bits in there. And it's one of the simpler tunes...
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gwEm on November 04, 2011, 01:18:16 PM
Wolf Hoffmann. I've been working out a few Accept songs recently, some of the riffs are crazy
Yep. I've been working on Midnight Mover all week.  Lots of tasty bits in there. And it's one of the simpler tunes...

Doing 'Love Child' this end.. That main riff is the hardest one I've learnt since 'Victim of Changes'. Its deceptively simple - the problem is the timing of it - its like a sort of groove riff, but its also somewhat fast ;)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Madsakre on November 04, 2011, 01:26:31 PM
People sometimes forget about prince.. Kick ass guitarist/songwriter. People sometimes just tend to forget that he's both.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 04, 2011, 01:47:57 PM
Doing 'Love Child' this end.. That main riff is the hardest one I've learnt since 'Victim of Changes'. Its deceptively simple - the problem is the timing of it - its like a sort of groove riff, but its also somewhat fast ;)
Accept do have a tendency to move stuff slightly ahead of the beat, hold where you don't expect them to and in general complicate matters just for the hell of it :D
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 04, 2011, 01:49:30 PM
People sometimes forget about prince.. Kick ass guitarist/songwriter. People sometimes just tend to forget that he's both.
Not around here they don't... Apparently, Prince is like Hendrix and Mozart rolled into one.
And I still don't like him :lol:
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Loomer on November 04, 2011, 01:57:58 PM
People sometimes forget about prince.. Kick ass guitarist/songwriter. People sometimes just tend to forget that he's both.

Plus he's the only man who has ever managed to pull off a sleazy pencil 'stache, 5 foot nil height and high heels, and still be knee-deep in pooty-tang. Even if you disregard how supernaturally talented he is, that is one hell of an achievement.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: fbloke on November 04, 2011, 05:10:49 PM
NIGEL TUFNEL!!!  His solos are his trademark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4UJkl6eaGQ
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: JacksonRR on November 04, 2011, 06:29:56 PM
People sometimes forget about prince.. Kick ass guitarist/songwriter. People sometimes just tend to forget that he's both.

+1. I saw him doing a solo with a yellow Hohner Tele copy on some TV show YEARS ago. Blew my little mind. Had no idea he was that rad.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: sgmypod on November 05, 2011, 02:27:24 PM
+1 Kerry Livgren, Alex Lifeson

Also
Martin Barre
Mick abrahams (tull Again)
Mike bloomfield
and random steve winwood

Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: MrBump on November 05, 2011, 04:17:30 PM
Someone needs to cross reference this thread with the one about guitarists you don't get; see how many turn up on both lists.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Kiichi on November 06, 2011, 12:55:00 AM
I gotta throw in a really strange one in here: Stefan „Stef“ Schmidt and Ross Thompson of Van Canto.
They do a capella power metal (5 singers, one drummer) and they even do $%&#ing a capella guitar solos. And believe me, they can do it live too, seen it 5 times so far. Really nice guys as well.

Check them out!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwz0Q8_q9yo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kwz0Q8_q9yo) solo @3.24min
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyHcIHssdHA) Iron Maiden Cover
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: darkbluemurder on November 08, 2011, 02:33:29 PM
Two more underrated guitarists:

Kee Marcello of Europe - I think he played only on one of their albums but that stuff is great.

Craig Goldy - I think his playing on Dio's Magica is excellent.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 08, 2011, 04:20:41 PM
Kee Marcello of Europe - I think he played only on one of their albums but that stuff is great.
I gave up on Europe when Norum left, but I remember reading an interview with Marcello where he stated something to the effect that "I play Larrivee because they are the only guitars that are deserving of my chops" or something similarly bigheaded. Never payed attention to him...

Craig Goldy - I think his playing on Dio's Magica is excellent.
I'm a big Dio fan, and an equally big Goldy fan, but I have to ask : what's the appeal of Magica?
For me it's a drab, depressing album with none of the guitar fireworks Goldy brought to Dio's live shows. I think it's my second least favourite Dio album, preceded only by the timeless stinker Angry Machines...
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: horsehead on November 08, 2011, 09:00:01 PM
Anyone remember Joe Holmes? Now that dude could play!
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Philly Q on November 08, 2011, 10:21:49 PM
Anyone remember Joe Holmes? Now that dude could play!

I'm not really familiar with his playing, but I always thought it was a shame he spent quite a while with Ozzy but never (as far as I know) recorded with him.


Craig Goldy - I think his playing on Dio's Magica is excellent.
I'm a big Dio fan, and an equally big Goldy fan, but I have to ask : what's the appeal of Magica?
For me it's a drab, depressing album with none of the guitar fireworks Goldy brought to Dio's live shows. I think it's my second least favourite Dio album, preceded only by the timeless stinker Angry Machines...

I've only really heard him on Dream Evil and the first Giuffria album.  I thought Dream Evil was a bit disappointing after the three albums with Viv Campbell.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 09, 2011, 07:53:57 AM
Anyone remember Joe Holmes? Now that dude could play!
I'm not really familiar with his playing, but I always thought it was a shame he spent quite a while with Ozzy but never (as far as I know) recorded with him.
Another victim of the Osbourne machine...

I've only really heard him on Dream Evil and the first Giuffria album.  I thought Dream Evil was a bit disappointing after the three albums with Viv Campbell.
I love Dream Evil. I know a lot of people were disappointed with it, but there's some amazing songs on there.
I saw Dio live with Goldy on the Sacred Heart tour, and he left a big impression there, so I was inclined to like the album.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Elessar [Sly] on November 18, 2011, 12:28:01 PM
Josh Klinghoffer. That guy sneaks up on you.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: horsehead on November 19, 2011, 09:25:02 AM
Marc Ford from The Black Crowes, re-watching the early days with the crowes including the drug years and BOY that man can play and then to follow up when he left the band they had the amazing Audley Freed. Cry of Love are still one of the bands that influence me to this day.
Someone who's under-rated at the moment but I reckon might recognition later is a dude called Nalle Colt whom plays with Vintage Trouble, some amazing playing so concise & picks the part perfectly.
Matt Schofield gets some love on here, but not everywhere and he really does deserve it.
Paul Mahon from The Answer is a pretty awesome player & a really nice bloke to boot
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Modular1 on November 23, 2011, 06:55:34 PM
I personally think Jake E. Lee is a very underated guitarist. I think because he came straight after Randy Rhoads, people were still getting over Randy's death as well as how much of a great guitarist he was! U listen to the 2 Ozzy albums Jake E. lee was on, and you can't help but to really appreciate his style, as well as his inventiveness. To name a well known song: Shot in the Dark was a great song in terms of uniquness. He tuned his guitar to a weird tuning, and managed to creat a great opening out of harmonics and bending the strings behind the nut. He really was on a different level when it came to songwriting.

I loved the first two Badlands albums. They don't seem to be available today. Its years since i heard them.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Modular1 on November 23, 2011, 07:03:04 PM
+1 to a few of those mentioned already.


Chris Poland
Alex Lifeson

None of those guys are exactly unknowns, but I don't think they get as much recognition as they deserve.  I think they're all pretty special.


For Lifeson doubters, I will always point La Villa Strangiato at their ears.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Ian Price on November 23, 2011, 07:05:24 PM
Marc Ford from The Black Crowes, re-watching the early days with the crowes including the drug years and BOY that man can play and then to follow up when he left the band they had the amazing Audley Freed. Cry of Love are still one of the bands that influence me to this day.
Someone who's under-rated at the moment but I reckon might recognition later is a dude called Nalle Colt whom plays with Vintage Trouble, some amazing playing so concise & picks the part perfectly.
Matt Schofield gets some love on here, but not everywhere and he really does deserve it.
Paul Mahon from The Answer is a pretty awesome player & a really nice bloke to boot


Some good names in that list - I love Schofield, saw him earlier this year in a sweaty club in Winchester. Top playing and a top bloke too.

Also, there is a great Audley Freed collection of vids on youtube - some summer fair thing for Gibson. I won't post the links again as I think I've put them up on the forum at least 4 times (that's how much I like it!)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Sancho on November 23, 2011, 07:14:26 PM
I loved the first two Badlands albums. They don't seem to be available today. Its years since i heard them.
Sure they are. They were reissued by Rock Candy Records a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Modular1 on November 23, 2011, 07:22:35 PM
I loved the first two Badlands albums. They don't seem to be available today. Its years since i heard them.
Sure they are. They were reissued by Rock Candy Records a couple of years ago.
To be fair i only looked on iTunes. :P
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Telerocker on November 23, 2011, 11:31:40 PM
Once and awhile I listen to Danny Gatton for inspiration. Too bad he died young, but a great guitarist. Technically skilled and tasty playing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M)
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: Loomer on November 24, 2011, 08:59:34 AM
Lifeson doubters

They exist?!

Burn them,  I say. Nowt but filthy heretics.
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: gordiji on November 25, 2011, 09:07:11 PM
.......and CHRIS DUARTE
                                      http://youtu.be/nYva0MSD2Do
 
if you like stevie ray you'll like chris d
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: MrBump on November 26, 2011, 06:53:02 AM
Once and awhile I listen to Danny Gatton for inspiration. Too bad he died young, but a great guitarist. Technically skilled and tasty playing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M)

Yeah, that's really great!
Title: Re: Underrated guitarists
Post by: DavidRees on November 26, 2011, 10:04:26 AM
Once and awhile I listen to Danny Gatton for inspiration. Too bad he died young, but a great guitarist. Technically skilled and tasty playing.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2K3o5QmSc8M)

Yeah, that's really great!
majestic!!!