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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Nephilim on November 01, 2011, 09:25:17 PM
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Have any of you got them songs that you play when you go into a guitar shop, in which you never listen to, and more or less never play it at home?
When at home I play everything from Jazz to Metal. I also improvise like hell and could track down hours of tape: But when in a guitar shop, trying out an amp or guitar, my mind just goes blank and I play the most stereotypical songs that Guitar Shop's love to hate, haha.
What are your Guitar Shop songs?
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Whenever I try a guitar in a shop, I forget everything I know :?
Usually, after a couple of minutes of fumbling around like a total noob I do some Ted Nugent, Thin Lizzy or Judas Priest riffs and licks. If I really get to spend some time with the instrument I'll warm up and do some tunes from the band's repertoire.
The thing is, I do play those at home, and listen to them as well...
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I invariably end up fingerpicking this (badly)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XhpGSzhNRSs&feature=related
chicks dig that
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i dunno if there's anything that i never play at home, but i definitely get that "mind going blank" thing which is very annoying.
Also i'm very self-conscious, so i don't play a lot of the stuff i do know in case it's that stereotypical guitar shop stuff that they hate :lol:
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Always end up playing "Ode to joy" or "Summertime"....no matter how inappropriate the guitar or amp settings.
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here's mine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0&feature=related
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It depends on the guitar too. When I pick up an ES, it doesn't invite me to shred. I usually do some funk, blues, pop and jazz for the cleans, and classic rock to heavy rock with drive. Chic, Joss Stone, Chili Peppers, SRV, Warren Haynes, Muse, whatever the mood is.
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here's mine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0&feature=related
NO! BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT! BAAAD!
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here's mine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0&feature=related
NO! BAD DOG! NO BISCUIT! BAAAD!
arf!!! arf!!!!! :lol:
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here's mine...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZHH7gsKbE0&feature=related
LMAO. I bet they see you and expect you to start pulling off some brutal Slayer, and then...da di da di dum dum lol
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I just muck about playing blues licks and little riffs with double stops and open strings, to see how the thing resonates.
Conceals the fact that I don't know any songs anyway. :|
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Conceals the fact that I don't know any songs anyway. :|
So you can't forget them too :-)
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I just muck about playing blues licks and little riffs with double stops and open strings, to see how the thing resonates.
Conceals the fact that I don't know any songs anyway. :|
Me too. Almost. I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff. Never actually play any songs. If I can't make my mind up within a few mins of tweaking, I know it's not for me and I'm about to fool myself into buying something stupid.
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
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I only feel I can properly assess a guitar once I've played all of 'Passion and Warfare' on it in the shop...
...or maybe just some chords and a bit of blooze noodling.
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
I am also guilty of this. And if it has a floating trem theres some whammy harmonics followed by 9 of guitars being terribly out of tune and then i grab something hardtail.
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
I am also guilty of this. And if it has a floating trem theres some whammy harmonics followed by 9 of guitars being terribly out of tune and then i grab something hardtail.
God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
I am also guilty of this. And if it has a floating trem theres some whammy harmonics followed by 9 of guitars being terribly out of tune and then i grab something hardtail.
God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
I have only ever found one guitar that had the trem setup properly...
I actually ended up buying it too
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
I am also guilty of this. And if it has a floating trem theres some whammy harmonics followed by 9 of guitars being terribly out of tune and then i grab something hardtail.
God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
I have only ever found one guitar that had the trem setup properly...
I actually ended up buying it too
I think that should be a message to guitar shops worldwide, lol.
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God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
yeah the missing trem bar thing is annoying. I mean, I understand that maybe if they left them on all the guitars, that people would just mess about on them and wreck the guitar/trem... but if i'm seriously considering buying the guitar, trying out the trem is one of the things i want to try to make sure the trem is ok. It's not being nitpicky or annoying, and if i don't get to try it i'm probably not going to buy the guitar.
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God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
yeah the missing trem bar thing is annoying. I mean, I understand that maybe if they left them on all the guitars, that people would just mess about on them and wreck the guitar/trem... but if i'm seriously considering buying the guitar, trying out the trem is one of the things i want to try to make sure the trem is ok. It's not being nitpicky or annoying, and if i don't get to try it i'm probably not going to buy the guitar.
I went into Dawsons not long ago and tried an Ibanez Jem (the £2000 model), and I asked for the trem and they said it was in a big box somewhere with hundreds of trems, so they couldn't track it down at the present time. It's bloody ridiculous. A Jem without a Floyd? It's like test driving a Ferarri F1 without an accelerator, or on a 30mph zone.
Another thing which annoyed me, was trying out a guitar that, let me say, wasn't cheap; and I wanted to try it on a Peavey 6505 (my amp) so I knew exactly how it would react. And the bloody store assistant said that there was no nearby plugs so I'd have to settle to try it on a Line 6 Spider IV. All it takes is a little bit of there time, and mabye they'd get themselves a sale. The store wasn't even busy either grrr
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God isn't it awful when guitar shops have Floating Bridges that are never in tune? The thing that pisses me off the most though is when they tell you they can't find the Trem Bar for you. I just wanna throw he guitar at them the lazy *****.
Rant Over! :P
yeah the missing trem bar thing is annoying. I mean, I understand that maybe if they left them on all the guitars, that people would just mess about on them and wreck the guitar/trem... but if i'm seriously considering buying the guitar, trying out the trem is one of the things i want to try to make sure the trem is ok. It's not being nitpicky or annoying, and if i don't get to try it i'm probably not going to buy the guitar.
I went into Dawsons not long ago and tried an Ibanez Jem (the £2000 model), and I asked for the trem and they said it was in a big box somewhere with hundreds of trems, so they couldn't track it down at the present time. It's bloody ridiculous. A Jem without a Floyd? It's like test driving a Ferarri F1 without an accelerator, or on a 30mph zone.
Another thing which annoyed me, was trying out a guitar that, let me say, wasn't cheap; and I wanted to try it on a Peavey 6505 (my amp) so I knew exactly how it would react. And the bloody store assistant said that there was no nearby plugs so I'd have to settle to try it on a Line 6 Spider IV. All it takes is a little bit of there time, and mabye they'd get themselves a sale. The store wasn't even busy either grrr
These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
This is pure Professionalism. I think these days, there's so many kids wanting to try out top quality equipment, just for the sake of it, that assistants are just plain sick of going out there way for it. But there is still some sleazy people out there. There's also people who just do stuff because they think they're right, for e.g. many years ago there was a shop called Keys in Oldham, UK, and I was getting a set of Dimarzio Evolutions fitted into my guitar. And the guy wired them up with 250k pots, with the red/green wire reversed. His excuse was that it provided a warmer tone and tamed the pickups. Now I know I'm to blame for not asking for what I exactly wanted, but he could have had the courtesy to ask what exactly I wanted. I think people just assume what they know is right. Ah well, life goes on I guess :/
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I like to mess around chugging palms mutes and pinches and stuff
Oh so YOU'RE that guy?
Yup. :lol:
I just like to get a small taste and move on, especially if it's nothing exciting. I don't go change into leopard print spandex and demand a wireless unit so I can do solos in each individual customer's face while using my PhilX voice. I should though.
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I have a bad habit of playing Death's "spirit crusher" every time im in a music shop
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(a) I went into Dawsons not long ago and tried an Ibanez Jem (the £2000 model), and I asked for the trem and they said it was in a big box somewhere with hundreds of trems, so they couldn't track it down at the present time. It's bloody ridiculous. A Jem without a Floyd? It's like test driving a Ferarri F1 without an accelerator, or on a 30mph zone.
(b) Another thing which annoyed me, was trying out a guitar that, let me say, wasn't cheap; and I wanted to try it on a Peavey 6505 (my amp) so I knew exactly how it would react. And the bloody store assistant said that there was no nearby plugs so I'd have to settle to try it on a Line 6 Spider IV. All it takes is a little bit of there time, and mabye they'd get themselves a sale. The store wasn't even busy either grrr
(a) yeah pretty much :lol:
(b) yeah... i never understood that either. It's a false economy for the shop, you want people to be trying out the guitars through better amps than they already own, surely? :lol:
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
Guitarguitar in newcastle treated me similarly. I wandered in, declared that I wanted to try out high end metal amps...que 3 hours of them changing heads for me, trying out all the heads with different cabs, trying them boosted, giving me nods when the shop was clear enough to crank them, and getting me coffee. Left with a powerball and ubercab. A couple of days later the manual, that all of us forgot at the time, was posted through my door.
I cant stand it when the gear is in sub-par condition or the staff only grudgingly let you try anything, guarding their precious stock like they dont want to sell it and treating you like an inconvenience. I dont buy anything from those shops. Dawsons manchester have done this with me, and I wouldnt so much as get a set of strings from there.
On topic though: Guitars in E confuse me. Give me one of my guitars, in drop B or C# and I noodle around and bash strings just seeing what I come up with, and never actually play anyone elses songs. Give me a guitar in E and I default to metallica, maiden and random blues and shred nonesense. I do apologise to any guitar shop people for this :lol: But then in part because of that, I'm never in a guitar shop to try out guitars, and will take one of my own if I'm after an amp.
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
Guitarguitar in newcastle treated me similarly. I wandered in, declared that I wanted to try out high end metal amps...que 3 hours of them changing heads for me, trying out all the heads with different cabs, trying them boosted, giving me nods when the shop was clear enough to crank them, and getting me coffee. Left with a powerball and ubercab. A couple of days later the manual, that all of us forgot at the time, was posted through my door.
I cant stand it when the gear is in sub-par condition or the staff only grudgingly let you try anything, guarding their precious stock like they dont want to sell it and treating you like an inconvenience. I dont buy anything from those shops. Dawsons manchester have done this with me, and I wouldnt so much as get a set of strings from there.
On topic though: Guitars in E confuse me. Give me one of my guitars, in drop B or C# and I noodle around and bash strings just seeing what I come up with, and never actually play anyone elses songs. Give me a guitar in E and I default to metallica, maiden and random blues and shred nonesense. I do apologise to any guitar shop people for this :lol: But then in part because of that, I'm never in a guitar shop to try out guitars, and will take one of my own if I'm after an amp.
It was actually the Dawsons in Manchester where I experienced this horrible service, lol.
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The local Dawsons to me which is huddersfield is great
But i have known the staff for years when its changed from a woods to a dolphin and now dawsons.
They'll let me try anything and if its not busy just chill out and chat gear and have a coffee.
The best thing is half of the staff are metalheads so i can occasionally get them to pull stock in from the warehouse that they wouldnt normally have in store
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I do most of my shopping in one store, or online.
On the rare occasion I wander into one of Belgium's biggest retailers, they're usually pseudo helpful, until they realise I'm not buying the same day. Then they just shrug me off. They've lost a couple of sales that way already...
I mean, really? You expect me to buy this 1500 euro amp on the spot, without checking out the alternatives??
Want to get good service in a guitar store? Walk in there with a Les Paul. That usually gets them groveling :?
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
For some reason that reminds me of my favourite bartender of any place ever: This cheery little Irish bugger called Naoise. Many a night I've seen him just one man working the bar, with what... 15 people waiting for drinks and pretty much no one waited more than 30 seconds for a beer. That guy is just everywhere at once, and always serves with a smile and a life-of-the-party kind of charisma.
Oh, to be one of those people with energy reserves like that :lol:
As for me in guitar stores: I almost ALWAYS play Toots Thielemans' "Bluesette", or at least the chord backing, as it was taught to me by a teacher yeaaars ago. Other than that I just mess about and improvise riffs.
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this is the second song I like to play in guitar shops, in its entirety... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUpY5geWcU
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stairway to heaven
smoke on the water
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stairway to heaven
smoke on the water
Those are on the "Forbidden" list of at least one shop in my area, and with good reason. They are the equivalent to the piano tune "Für Elise" - everybody and his dog plays it no matter how good (or bad) they can play.
Cheers Stephan
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this is the second song I like to play in guitar shops, in its entirety... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUpY5geWcU
For the benefit of other customers, I play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E)
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stairway to heaven
smoke on the water
Those are on the "Forbidden" list of at least one shop in my area, and with good reason. They are the equivalent to the piano tune "Für Elise" - everybody and his dog plays it no matter how good (or bad) they can play.
Cheers Stephan
I need to learn the intro to Stairway. That way I can play both in stores and look blissfully unaware.
The whole "No Stairway/Smoke" thing is an even bigger cliché than the songs themselves...
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this is the second song I like to play in guitar shops, in its entirety... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJUpY5geWcU
For the benefit of other customers, I play this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hUJagb7hL0E)
Love it. If I can find that in flac format even better.
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I do like that John Cage piece. For me the second movement is best- he gets into his melodic stride. I find the third movement a little too brash and the orchestration too discordant though that bit where he hits the E# demolished is always a highlight. Great choice for trying a guitar out though. I wish that more would follow your example Philly.
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I often play that clean part from the start of the title track of "Seasons in the abyss". I don't even own a copy of that album anymore...
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What's a guitar shop?
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What's a guitar shop?
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A place where people go to try out things they will look for cheaper online and 14 year olds with dicks for fingers butcher the 3 songs they know, at high volume.
Occasionally people go there planning to buy something, but the staff normally treat them like one of the above.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-xX7iWvzbo
Its like this.
Edit: I know I rag on cr@p guitar shop staff, but I'd be worse. If I had to go back there day after day, I'd be eyeing up the pointiest guitars as potential weaponry.
Edit 2: Also I'd never sell anything. Boss tells me 'plug that one, its got the best profit margin and its low cost, high turnover', I say to customer 'dont buy that, it sounds like a kick drum full of bees'.
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These are both very unprofessional and lazy practices you have experienced. There is no excuse for such customer disservice.
Cheers Stephan
just to counter this, i was in a shop recently, trying out the AFD100, and there was just the one guy working. he set up the amp and a 4x12 for me, and dragged out another marshall head to compare it to, and offered any guitar in the place i might want to try with it, while building up and dismantling an entire drum kit for a 12 year old to try out, getting tea for me, him and a couple of other customers, answering the phone, and dealing with a man from the electric board! all the while maintaining an air of relaxed cool :)
May I ask the name of the shop?
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May I ask the name of the shop?
beat it music in Blackrock, Co. Louth
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I very, very rarely go into music shops to try things, maybe stick my head in one once a year to see what they have around.
I find it quite embarrassing going in and asking to play stuff - I'm in a band, I gig regularly and I'm not a bad player, but I hate the interaction with staff in music shops. I guess I always feel like an inconvenience, even though the staff may not be intentionally making me feel like that.
I'm in the online purchasing camp. I so rarely buy guitars - much more likely to make one from parts - so it's usually just FX pedals or amps that I'm buying anyway.
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I find it quite embarrassing going in and asking to play stuff - I'm in a band, I gig regularly and I'm not a bad player, but I hate the interaction with staff in music shops. I guess I always feel like an inconvenience, even though the staff may not be intentionally making me feel like that.
Likewise, but some shops are better than others - Guitar Village, for example, will just leave you to it for as long as you like, no pressure or hassle.
I guess now that I'm quite old they figure I might have some money, even though I dress like a (clean) tramp.
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yes why play great at gigs..on own in guitar shop play like arse...think am more nervous in front of one shop guy than in front of an audience