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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Andrew W on November 02, 2011, 04:45:15 PM

Title: NGD
Post by: Andrew W on November 02, 2011, 04:45:15 PM
Well, new to me guitar day anyway. To balance the Fender-centric nature of my other electrics, here's my 1995 PRS McCarty:

(http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6057/6305908247_87bcca8664_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/6305908247)

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I've been hankering after a full humbucking guitar as it's a tonal area that's not really covered by any of my other guitars but I've had rotten experiences with the Les Pauls I've played and didn't get on with the one I owned for a while. I've tried a few PRSs over the years but only the 24 fret or Tremonti models that friends owned and they did nothing for me. Having been listening to David Grissom quite a bit made me wonder if I'd dismissed all PRSs out of hand without trying the ones that might appeal to me. I knew I didn't want a DGT as I didn't want a trem but the rest of the specs sounded promising, which led me to think that a McCarty might be the one for me. I played one in a shop and liked it well enough but the staff there's attitude and customer service "technique" did them out of a sale, so I started looking on eBay and, when the instrument above came up at a good price, I pulled the trigger.

It arrived today and now that I've restrung it with 11s it's a fire-breathing, bona fide tone monster. Plugged into my Cornell Romany with the tone stack switched out it sounds incredible. From real Les Paul roar (though with less wool and more cut - no bad thing in my mind) to some lovely clean tones, all are very controllable with the volume and tone knobs. I begin to see why people praise PRS's versatility now, there really isn't a bad sound in it, it covers a huge range of tones and the best tones are absolutely killer. It also doesn't hurt that I think it's rather pretty too. The weight is very good which is the other thing that has always put me off Gibsons so I think I've plugged a gap in my arsenal.

The neck is exactly the right kind of chunky: it fills your hand without feeling awkward. I played a 1964 Gibson SG Junior last week and the neck on that was very narrow and incredibly thick - exactly the wrong kind of chunky, so the fact the PRS immediately felt right really put my mind at ease.

It's in very good nick for a guitar that's 16 years old, there's one tiny ding on it and the rest of the finish is flawless. The hardware has tarnished nicely and I intend to keep it just like that. This is an absolute belter of a guitar and I'm really chuffed. I should also thank Twinfan for his evangelical enthusiasm for PRS which persuaded me that I must have missed something on previous dabblings with the brand and that I should give them another go! :)

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Post by: gwEm on November 02, 2011, 04:58:29 PM
she looks like an nice example Andrew!
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Post by: darkbluemurder on November 02, 2011, 05:01:25 PM
Congrats - beautiful guitar!
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Post by: Philly Q on November 02, 2011, 05:08:27 PM
Nice!  8)

The McCarty is definitely one of the nicest PRS models, just because it's that bit more "vintage".  For example, I like the PRS locking tuners, but I prefer the old fashioned Gotoh/Klusons.
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Post by: Andrew W on November 02, 2011, 05:13:19 PM
Nice!  8)

The McCarty is definitely one of the nicest PRS models, just because it's that bit more "vintage".  For example, I like the PRS locking tuners, but I prefer the old fashioned Gotoh/Klusons.
I think that's what hooked me. I could tell the PRSs I'd played but didn't like were very high quality but they just didn't do it for me. The slightly vintage feel really does though.
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Post by: blue on November 02, 2011, 05:14:59 PM
gorgeous guitar, and nice pictures :)

hope you enjoy it
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Post by: Sancho on November 02, 2011, 05:33:12 PM
The McCarty is the one PRS I'd really like to try.
Congrats!
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Post by: dave_mc on November 02, 2011, 05:57:01 PM
nice :D
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Post by: Telerocker on November 02, 2011, 05:59:53 PM
Congrats! That's a very nice piece in a sort of darker honeyburst or is it just the picture?
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Post by: Andrew W on November 02, 2011, 06:10:08 PM
Congrats! That's a very nice piece in a sort of darker honeyburst or is it just the picture?
I think the picture is about right colour wise (in daylight). I like it a lot: it has that late 50s Les Paul 'burst look which I'm very fond of.
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Post by: Telerocker on November 02, 2011, 06:17:20 PM
Congrats! That's a very nice piece in a sort of darker honeyburst or is it just the picture?
I think the picture is about right colour wise (in daylight). I like it a lot: it has that late 50s Les Paul 'burst look which I'm very fond of.

I like this colour way more then say cherry sunburst or iced tea. Very elegant.
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Post by: Twinfan on November 02, 2011, 06:45:53 PM
You'll know what I think of this already matey  ;)

Gorgeous guitar, my favourite model, you got a great price too!  You got a pretty early one, and when they were introduced they cost more than a Custom  :)

Beware though, PRSs are addictive......!
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Post by: Roobubba on November 02, 2011, 06:51:18 PM
Looks nice, and well-taken shots, too.

I must admit, McCarty reminds me of Macca-tw$t, and then I get angry (why has someone not shot him yet?), which is very unfortunate, as these guitars definitely look good and get very loyal players (like Twinfan!).
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Post by: d1dsj on November 02, 2011, 06:51:48 PM
Beautiful, what a stunner! Congrats.... love it.
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Post by: Philly Q on November 02, 2011, 07:03:17 PM
I must admit, McCarty reminds me of Macca-tw$t, and then I get angry (why has someone not shot him yet?), which is very unfortunate, as these guitars definitely look good and get very loyal players (like Twinfan!).

Think of the bloke from the Yardbirds instead.  Or the guitarist from the Detroit Wheels.


(Although "Yardbirds" might make you think of Tele pickups, and then we're in trouble...)

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Post by: gordiji on November 02, 2011, 07:58:37 PM
lovely jublee, have fun.
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Post by: FernandoDuarte on November 02, 2011, 09:15:30 PM
What a looker! I loke the burst!
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Post by: Kiichi on November 02, 2011, 09:24:10 PM
I really, really like that one...donīt know what it is exactly, but there is something spherical (for lack of a better word) about it.
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Post by: 38thBeatle on November 02, 2011, 11:16:08 PM
Congrats-lovely guitar.
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Post by: viking on November 03, 2011, 12:47:15 AM
Congrats! That's a very nice piece in a sort of darker honeyburst or is it just the picture?
I think the picture is about right colour wise (in daylight). I like it a lot: it has that late 50s Les Paul 'burst look which I'm very fond of.
It's called "McCarty burst" by PRS.Congrats  8)!
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Post by: AndyR on November 03, 2011, 08:21:11 AM
Mighty fine looking guitar :D
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Post by: Andrew W on November 03, 2011, 07:02:49 PM
Congrats! That's a very nice piece in a sort of darker honeyburst or is it just the picture?
I think the picture is about right colour wise (in daylight). I like it a lot: it has that late 50s Les Paul 'burst look which I'm very fond of.
It's called "McCarty burst" by PRS.Congrats  8)!
As in "McCarty and certainly nothing like a name that sounds like Lester Polfus burst"? :)

One extra thing to add was I opened up the back today as the previous owner had disabled the bridge single-coil mode on the tone control and I wanted to put it back. The job took two minutes because of the neatness of the soldering and the layout in the cavity. It's quality all the way through! Now need to try and learn Grissom's "Boots Likes to Boogie"  :? Eek.
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Post by: Zaned on November 03, 2011, 07:41:39 PM
Gongrats from a fellow McCarty owner! Yours is an earlier one, mine is an -02. And a killer guitar it is.

I've since replaced the frets (just been played to death), the pickups and modified the wiring. The original pickups didn't work for me on that guitar eventually (although I knew what I had in my hands the second I struck that first chord on this guitar), now it has a CS set . I also installed a treble bleed, so that the high end stays there when the volume is turned down.

-Zaned
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Post by: Andrew W on November 03, 2011, 08:04:42 PM
I'm liking the pickups at the moment though I think the ones in the '95 version differ from those that preceded and succeeded it. What's really interesting to me is that this is the first guitar I've ever had that I didn't get because a hero of mine played one (aside from Grissom I guess). What it's meant is that I've been playing the thing rather than trying to find the tones that I liked from records by others, if that makes sense? I suppose it means that I'm treating it on its own merits rather than comparing it to something on a record. It's different and interesting because of that. :)
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Post by: Twinfan on November 04, 2011, 09:18:48 AM
Sounds like you may become a PRS convert, if you haven't already  ;)

The very early McCartys had Lollar pickups I think, they also had very rounded cover corners and were in the first 100 run signed by Ted McCarty.  I think yours has the regular McCarty pickups built by PRS.
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Post by: Andrew W on November 04, 2011, 10:16:04 AM
Sounds like you may become a PRS convert, if you haven't already  ;)

The very early McCartys had Lollar pickups I think, they also had very rounded cover corners and were in the first 100 run signed by Ted McCarty.  I think yours has the regular McCarty pickups built by PRS.


That's my understanding too though I read that the PRS pickups went through a few versions in the first few years too, that may be Internet spurious rubbish though.
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Post by: _tom_ on November 04, 2011, 10:19:55 AM
Looks really nice! That's how I'd want a PRS if I had one. Doesn't look plasticcy or tacky like some of them can. Colour is spot on as well.
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Post by: Philly Q on November 04, 2011, 11:15:04 AM
That's my understanding too though I read that the PRS pickups went through a few versions in the first few years too, that may be Internet spurious rubbish though.

I think it's probably true, they're forever tweaking little details on their guitars, like changing to brass screws on the tremolo unit, or bridge studs which only have nickel plating on the top surface....

The "trouble" with PRS pickups is that they don't publish detailed specs so it's really hard to find out much about them.  I'm sure someone out there has dissected all the models and kept a history, though!
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Post by: roland_rat on November 04, 2011, 05:14:47 PM
I saw this earlier and forgot to reply. It looks a very tasty guitar you got there. Enjoy!
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Post by: Ian Price on November 04, 2011, 09:14:22 PM
That looks ace! nice one.
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Post by: Andrew W on November 04, 2011, 10:11:27 PM
Sounds like you may become a PRS convert, if you haven't already  ;)

The very early McCartys had Lollar pickups I think, they also had very rounded cover corners and were in the first 100 run signed by Ted McCarty.  I think yours has the regular McCarty pickups built by PRS.

I don't know if the photos really show it, but the covers on my guitar have really very rounded corners also. It was something that caught my eye as it was such a pronounced feature. Is that a general McCarty design element?
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Post by: Twinfan on November 04, 2011, 10:23:54 PM
It's just a feature of the very early pickups, which after looking at the pics again is what yours has  :)

I don't know how different they are to the current model, but they're quite well regarded.
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Post by: gwEm on November 04, 2011, 10:34:32 PM
if they are Lollar pickups, they're the absolute dogs bollocks
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Post by: Twinfan on November 05, 2011, 09:05:07 AM
Right, I've done some digging as I was unsure of the details.

1)  Very early ('94 to '95) McCarty guitars had pickups that did not coil split, had very rounded corners and were co-designed with Lindy Fralin (not Jason Lollar, sorry).  They were covered Dragon I neck pickups and were around 9k.

2)  The '95-on McCarty pickups were split via the tone pot, kept the rounded corners and were 8k neck 9k bridge - different to the Dragon I neck pickups used up to now.

3)  Around '97ish the covers got the more normal sharp radius.  They've stayed the same since.

Andrew - do your pickups split via the tone pot?  If so, then I reckon you're in bucket #2?
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Post by: HTH AMPS on November 05, 2011, 10:13:34 AM
That is one tasty guitar - especially for someone like me who is usually left cold by PRS axes.

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Post by: Andrew W on November 05, 2011, 10:35:30 AM

I am indeed in Bucket II and I'm very happy to be in it. To be honest, it's a slightly strange sensation to have a new guitar and not immediately want to rip the pickups out of it and replace them with something better as that has been my experience with every new guitar I've had since I can remember.

Thanks for doing the research by the way. :)

Right, I've done some digging as I was unsure of the details.

1)  Very early ('94 to '95) McCarty guitars had pickups that did not coil split, had very rounded corners and were co-designed with Lindy Fralin (not Jason Lollar, sorry).  They were covered Dragon I neck pickups and were around 9k.

2)  The '95-on McCarty pickups were split via the tone pot, kept the rounded corners and were 8k neck 9k bridge - different to the Dragon I neck pickups used up to now.

3)  Around '97ish the covers got the more normal sharp radius.  They've stayed the same since.

Andrew - do your pickups split via the tone pot?  If so, then I reckon you're in bucket #2?
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Post by: Philly Q on November 05, 2011, 12:21:26 PM
Right, I've done some digging as I was unsure of the details.

1)  Very early ('94 to '95) McCarty guitars had pickups that did not coil split, had very rounded corners and were co-designed with Lindy Fralin (not Jason Lollar, sorry).  They were covered Dragon I neck pickups and were around 9k.

2)  The '95-on McCarty pickups were split via the tone pot, kept the rounded corners and were 8k neck 9k bridge - different to the Dragon I neck pickups used up to now.

3)  Around '97ish the covers got the more normal sharp radius.  They've stayed the same since.


What's the best source(s) for PRS info, Dave?

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Post by: Twinfan on November 05, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
The PRS forum I use, Birds and Moons, is where I usually find most info.  Failing that, good old Google!  :lol:
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Post by: hunter on November 06, 2011, 07:59:20 AM

Very nice top/colour and I like that it has dots.

It looks like THE McCarty, like the perfect example, the one that represents the line so to speak. Everything is in harmony and symmetry or something.

I wonder what difference the solid rosewood neck on mine makes tone wise.
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Post by: Twinfan on November 06, 2011, 11:46:50 AM
I wonder what difference the solid rosewood neck on mine makes tone wise.

In my experience, you get a bit more top end "sparkle" and a bit less lower mids  :)
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Post by: Andrew W on November 06, 2011, 01:59:49 PM
I wonder what difference the solid rosewood neck on mine makes tone wise.

In my experience, you get a bit more top end "sparkle" and a bit less lower mids  :)

Did they alter the pickups for the rosewood necked versions to enhance that effect? Seems like they do muck around with the electrics quite bit.
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Post by: Twinfan on November 06, 2011, 03:50:00 PM
My Eagle has different pickups, but Hunter's McCarty had the same pickups as yours as stock.  I had the same in all my McCartys too, including my McCarty Korinas...
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Post by: Andrew W on November 06, 2011, 05:23:07 PM
My Eagle has different pickups, but Hunter's McCarty had the same pickups as yours as stock.  I had the same in all my McCartys too, including my McCarty Korinas...

Gotcha. So all flavours if McCarty in a given year will have the same pickups. And the last time they got a range-wide revamp was 1997. I'm interested in how different post '97 pickups are compared to mine. Did you notice a huge difference in tone?
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Post by: Twinfan on November 06, 2011, 10:58:47 PM
The only difference between yours and mine/Hunters is the covers.  They moved from brass to nickel.  I think the difference will be slight and mainly in the top end?  I think yours will be a little more muted?
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Post by: Twinfan on November 10, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Another nice McCarty for sale here if anyone's interested...

http://www.guitarguitar.co.uk/electric_guitars_detail.asp?stock=px-G15ES2262
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Post by: Ian Price on January 26, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Very nice - I think if I ever went down the PRS route it would be for a McCarty model.