Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Loomer on November 07, 2011, 01:20:48 PM
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These days I'm on the prowl for a new beater guitar, to replace my venerable Squier Stagemaster.
Thing is just, that the ideal thing of a Fat Strat sort of guitar, but with a Hardtail, seems nigh-on impossible to come by!
I hate strat trems with a passion, but I'd really, really like a Strat. I just really like the sound of a neck single coil.
Trouble is, Fender doesn't make any hardtails at a reasonable price level, nor does anyone else, it seems.
Other than that, I have a Tele bridge for humbucker lying around, that should fit standard fender spec, and others with a bit of work. That means a Tele is just as much a viable choice.
So what do I do?
- Suck it up and live with that arsing strat trem?
- Buy a mex-Tele and mod it (they're on sale these days)
- But the Peavey Reactor I mentioned in my other thread and mod it?
- Pray Fender release at least ONE bloody hardtail strat this next year?
- Pray for a miracle?
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i thought charvel might offer something, but closest i can find is this
http://www.charvel.com/en-GB/guitars//search.php?partno=2927803899
Obviously blocking off a normal strat trem will get you pretty damn close to what you want... but you could also look at picking up a hardtail strat body and transferring everything else over
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Try getting a body made by USACG or Warmoth. You can add your Strat Neck straight to it seeing as they are licensed by Fender, so the fitting will be exact
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http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/ (http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/) p90 neck. Problem solved.
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i thought charvel might offer something, but closest i can find is this
http://www.charvel.com/en-GB/guitars//search.php?partno=2927803899
Obviously blocking off a normal strat trem will get you pretty damn close to what you want... but you could also look at picking up a hardtail strat body and transferring everything else over
We both know the boss of fender scandinavia. He should set you up with one of these :D
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http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/ (http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/) p90 neck. Problem solved.
I think he said he really wants a neck single coil. Aint that a Humbucker?
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Fender '51?
http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/pawnshop/models.php?prodNo=02660 (http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/pawnshop/models.php?prodNo=02660)
(http://guitardesignreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/fender-51.jpg)
- Pray Fender release at least ONE bloody hardtail strat this next year?
I think there's very little chance of that. Since they discontinued the hardtail models in the American Series, the only hardtail Strats in the whole range are the Robert Cray models (MIM and Custom Shop), unless I'm forgetting something.
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http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/ (http://www.dba.dk/elguitar-warmoth-tele-paul/id-78628880/) p90 neck. Problem solved.
I think he said he really wants a neck single coil. Aint that a Humbucker?
yes, plus that one is loaded with Mules. I think he's just trying to persuade me to get that one so he can borrow it :lol:
He's tossed me that link more than a few times now :lol:
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Try getting a body made by USACG or Warmoth. You can add your Strat Neck straight to it seeing as they are licensed by Fender, so the fitting will be exact
I actually have a Strat neck lying around, but I'm saving that one for another "touring" guitar, like my Pig'd single-hum Tele.
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Tremol-no?
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Tremol-no?
Well, here's where I start to look silly :lol:
As much as I dislike the strat trem's lack of actual usefulness and stability compared to say, a Floyd, my main gripe is still the cosmetic thing :oops:
I honestly think they just look like arse, and are asymmetrical in the worst possible way.
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I hate asymmetrical arses
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You could break out a router and recess a TOM....... personnally, I think it looks like arse, but each to their own :lol:
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As much as I dislike the strat trem's lack of actual usefulness and stability compared to say, a Floyd, my main gripe is still the cosmetic thing :oops:
I honestly think they just look like arse, and are asymmetrical in the worst possible way.
They sound better than a Floyd though. And they're not as ludicrously difficult to set up or re-string.
But anyway, I prefer a proper hardtail.
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As much as I dislike the strat trem's lack of actual usefulness and stability compared to say, a Floyd, my main gripe is still the cosmetic thing :oops:
My Strat has an American Deluxe trem and Gotoh 510 mini locking tuners and it's incredibly stable. It hardly goes out of tune, even with fairly aggressive trem use. Still, it will never be as reliable as a hardtail, and if you don't like how it looks, nothing else matters anyway.
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i thought charvel might offer something, but closest i can find is this
http://www.charvel.com/en-GB/guitars//search.php?partno=2927803899
that's what i was thinking of :)
They sound better than a Floyd though. And they're not as ludicrously difficult to set up or re-string.
I dunno... they sound different from a strat trem. I love the sound of a strat trem, but if i were playing 80s rock and metal i'd probably prefer the sound of a floyd.
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They sound better than a Floyd though. And they're not as ludicrously difficult to set up or re-string.
I dunno... they sound different from a strat trem. I love the sound of a strat trem, but if i were playing 80s rock and metal i'd probably prefer the sound of a floyd.
Yeah, I'm just thinking of the way they affect the guitar's (acoustic) tone and sustain. Performance-wise, I'm sure the Floyd delivers the goods. If you like that sort of thing. :wink:
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If you like that sort of thing. :wink:
...which I don't, really :D But it does look cool!
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Most Musicman Silhouettes have a HSS-set up with a fixed bridge.
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Most Musicman Silhouettes have a HSS-set up with a fixed bridge.
That's true - or rather it's an option, you can get them either hardtail or with a trem.
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I've no idea how much this guitar cost, but I had an Ibanez Prestige in for some wiring repair recently and I was really impressed by the playability and also the tone of both the single coils and the humbucker. Worth a look.
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its a pity this isn't available in a hardtail and HSS format, it would've suited you down the the ground...
(http://www.ibanez.co.jp/products/images/eg2011/XF350_RIX_27_01.png)
I'll get my coat... :lol:
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MY EYES
THEY BURN
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Buy a HSS strat and lock the trem down?
Works for me
(http://kineticnorth.com/Images/Guitars/IMAGE_036.jpg)
(http://kineticnorth.com/Images/Guitars/IMAGE_037.jpg)
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards that.
Either that or just going "Ah, $%&# it" and put Piledrivers in a Mexi-Tele!
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Either that or just going "Ah, $%&# it" and put Piledrivers in a Mexi-Tele!
THIS!!!!
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I must say the trem on my HSS American Series-strat is very stable. A good setup is worth the money. :D
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Buy a HSS strat and lock the trem down?
Works for me
(http://kineticnorth.com/Images/Guitars/IMAGE_036.jpg)
(http://kineticnorth.com/Images/Guitars/IMAGE_037.jpg)
For me, too - on the Frankenstrat with a single humbucker I just screwed the springs as far back as I could. That bridge moves nowhere.
Cheers Stephan
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Yeah, I'm just thinking of the way they affect the guitar's (acoustic) tone and sustain. Performance-wise, I'm sure the Floyd delivers the goods. If you like that sort of thing. :wink:
i was talking about the tone, too. Sometimes the bent steel saddle strat-style trems can sound a wee bit... wimpy, for want of a better word, if you're playing heavier stuff.
They sound awesome for more vintage tones, though, I'm not slagging them off or anything. There's an awesome sparkle off those strat-style trems. :)
perfomance-wise- yeah a (quality) floyd trem is just awesome. :lol:
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Yeah, I'm just thinking of the way they affect the guitar's (acoustic) tone and sustain. Performance-wise, I'm sure the Floyd delivers the goods. If you like that sort of thing. :wink:
The best mod I ever made to a strat was fitting heavy brass saddles. I couldn't believe the amount of improvement, I might hunt some down and fit them to my strats now.
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Yeah, I'm just thinking of the way they affect the guitar's (acoustic) tone and sustain. Performance-wise, I'm sure the Floyd delivers the goods. If you like that sort of thing. :wink:
The best mod I ever made to a strat was fitting heavy brass saddles. I couldn't believe the amount of improvement, I might hunt some down and fit them to my strats now.
Have you tried Graph Tech saddles? I wouldn't say they suit every Strat, but they soften the attack a little, make notes less "plinky". They seem to make string bending a little easier too.
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Yeah, the more I think about it, the more I'm leaning towards that.
Either that or just going "Ah, $%&# it" and put Piledrivers in a Mexi-Tele!
I did that a few years back, it sounds pretty tasty to me:
Pics of the little brute (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mr_atrocity/sets/72157622033583673/).
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That is indeed very nice. I'm really leaning towards buying that Peavey Reactor I posted earlier, and doing some modding on that.
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Here you go mate - buy this and mod it!
http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/used-fender-robert-cray-strat-+++490
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Oh me oh my! Just a bit over my budget I'm afraid :(
I'm saving up, so let's see what pops up in the next few months!
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Here you go mate - buy this and mod it!
http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/used-fender-robert-cray-strat-+++490
I'm sure that was listed as "reserved" or something the other day... the buyer must have dropped out.
I've got a Robert Cray Strat - made me realise how good MIM Fenders can be! :D
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I tried a Billy Corgan strat a few years back. Liked that one a lot! Too bad they're hard to come by used these days :/
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Here you go mate - buy this and mod it!
http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/used-fender-robert-cray-strat-+++490
Ooooh, I like that....
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Fender '51?
http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/pawnshop/models.php?prodNo=02660 (http://www.fender.com/en-GB/products/pawnshop/models.php?prodNo=02660)
(http://guitardesignreviews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/fender-51.jpg)
- Pray Fender release at least ONE bloody hardtail strat this next year?
I think there's very little chance of that. Since they discontinued the hardtail models in the American Series, the only hardtail Strats in the whole range are the Robert Cray models (MIM and Custom Shop), unless I'm forgetting something.
The "original" Squier version of that one has actually come up for sale, for real cheap, quite close to me. Considering that one very much, since I know it's gone on to become a real cult guitar.
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(http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT-Q-I46wdfXuazDCe54kLZO05KWXWaevlRRUPz4fJPmsmW1VF8XNy73Rf0hA)
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http://www.4sound.dk/shop/elektriske-guitarer/fender/51-pawn-shop-stratocaster-mn-blonde.html (http://www.4sound.dk/shop/elektriske-guitarer/fender/51-pawn-shop-stratocaster-mn-blonde.html)
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Hi, this is a situation that I found myself in about 18ths ago. After some research I found a Billy Corgan hard-tail strat. After reading the review in Guitarist I almost bought one new but found one on ebay, pristine condition and about 6mths old. Got it for £500 which was pretty reasonable. I hated all the Dimarzios apart from the Chopper in the mid position so replaced the awful s/c sized hum in the bridge with a Holydiver. May eventually change this again to a Crawler / IT / IT combo. Worth checking these out for a genuine strat possibility. I do like the Charvel WC6, apart from the colour that is