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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 11:36:08 AM

Title: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 11:36:08 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/V80/V80ULTRAVIOLET2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/V80/V80ULTRAVIOLET1.jpg)

Another in our range of V variations ( we seem to have more than Rudolph Schenker :o)

Here we have a 2 piece mahogany body , mated to a 3 piece quarter-sawn mahogany with a rosewood fingerboard
24.75" scale with Dunlop 6000 fretwire

Hardware:
Sperzel locking tuners
Earvana Nut
Tonepros tunamatic
Lightweight aluminium tailpiece locked in with Tonepros studs (the ones that clamp the tailpiece down)

Pickups:
BKP Cold Sweat (one of my fave  for V and Explorer guitars)
Controls are BKP 550k pots and a BKP/Jensen capacitor

Finish:
This was something we worked hard to get the way I wanted it to look
I was going for that look you get from a UV/blacklight tube where you have a violet colour but with a surrounding haze of almost blue.
We used a metallic purple base over which we put a blue flip flop  tint
The effect changes as you move the guitar - subtle but effective
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: blue on November 10, 2011, 11:42:05 AM
yum yum, i like  :P
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Sancho on November 10, 2011, 11:44:19 AM
Man, that's a fine guitar!
I will need to talk to you about having a V built one of these days.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Antag on November 10, 2011, 11:51:08 AM
Wow, lovely guitar with some really cool little details (the strap buttons, volute, jack location etc)... :)
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 12:26:33 PM
Wow, lovely guitar with some really cool little details (the strap buttons, volute, jack location etc)... :)

Yes - the jack socket is in the upper fin
There is also a secret recessed Dunlop straplock button inside the fin as well - for great strap positioning
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: AndyR on November 10, 2011, 12:45:24 PM
I'll get in before Philly does:

Can't see the pics at work :(
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: gwEm on November 10, 2011, 12:45:45 PM
very nice :D

but can it go into the arena and rock you like a hurricane?

(by the way, colour is great - you've really captured it in your photos)
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Philly Q on November 10, 2011, 01:22:01 PM
I'll get in before Philly does:

Can't see the pics at work :(

Yeah, I decided not to bother but you've done it for me anyway!  :lol:

We must have similar settings to block certain types of links....

Anyway, I shall just have to be patient.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Ian Price on November 10, 2011, 01:27:15 PM
I can't see the pics at work either. Off out tonight as well so will not get the chance to look until Friday!
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Telerocker on November 10, 2011, 02:12:19 PM
Very nice, though I'm personally not a purple-addict. Suits this guitar well though.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 10, 2011, 03:46:50 PM
looks great, but I'd prefer neck binding (actually binding all round the body would be my preference).

love the colour, really unusual and striking.

Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: choucas09 on November 10, 2011, 04:11:19 PM
Lovely.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 04:25:01 PM
looks great, but I'd prefer neck binding (actually binding all round the body would be my preference).

love the colour, really unusual and striking.



Sounds like a custom order developing there Ian
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Nadz1lla on November 10, 2011, 04:58:06 PM
Wow! That's a very striking shade of violet, very nice work! Another visually stunning piece of work from your good self, heh.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Transcend on November 10, 2011, 05:09:50 PM
that is incredible.

Jonathan can you PM me with the kinda pricing id be looking at for one of these with a 26.5" scale and also if there are any difference in costs for alternate colours etc.

I've got to start taking this custom idea seriously!
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Antag on November 10, 2011, 05:17:03 PM
Sounds like a custom order developing there Ian
Not just one.  I've finally answered the question of what colour my second Feline Panther will be... :)
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: JacksonRR on November 10, 2011, 05:37:49 PM
That looks really good. Purple's not really a color I would go for. Personal preference aside, THAT THING IS SMOKIN!!
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 06:01:22 PM
Sounds like a custom order developing there Ian
Not just one.  I've finally answered the question of what colour my second Feline Panther will be... :)

Ooh - exciting!

Yes - purple is an interesting colour - some folks like it and others don't

Thanks for the positive feedback
Prices on these start at about £1800 going up to £2000 for colour and binding options
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: AndyR on November 10, 2011, 06:35:31 PM
Now, I was expecting not to get too excited by the colour myself. But now I can see it, I am somewhat surprised - that does look mighty fine.

I know a number of young girls who would think a guitar that colour is the utter bee-knees. In fact, I've even been asked "don't you have any purple guitars, then?" as if I'm sadly lacking in some way...

I try waving a dark cherry SG at them, I think of that as kinda purple (as I do my Brian May Red Special). But all I get is "That's not purple, Andrew... :roll:" as if I'm some sort of elderly numpty.

Not sure whether they'd buy in to the V shape though. Gwem, do you get many 5-10 year olds lusting after you when you play a V? :lol:

Lovely looking geetar there Jonathan :D
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Twinfan on November 10, 2011, 06:43:24 PM
Is that the special Cadbury's edition????  Looks top!

(http://ecoki.com/wp-content/uploads/dairy-milk.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: roland_rat on November 10, 2011, 07:06:34 PM
Very nice. Is this one for you personally Johnathan?
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Front Towards Enemy on November 10, 2011, 07:24:13 PM
The color is awesome!
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Andrew W on November 10, 2011, 09:14:12 PM
I love that, the details are great and though I wouldn't have thought so, I really like the colour very much. Tops.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: dave_mc on November 10, 2011, 10:32:53 PM
nice :D
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: WezV on November 10, 2011, 10:37:57 PM
the colour is so nice i am going to name my daughter after it.... probably ;)
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Philly Q on November 10, 2011, 10:55:19 PM
Another thumbs up for the colour, looks beautiful.  :D

Great photos too, even the chrome hardware seems to have a special glow against the purple paintwork.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 10, 2011, 11:27:21 PM
Very nice. Is this one for you personally Johnathan?

No but I might really enjoy having it around till it sells :wink:

This guitar has been here a while waiting for me to take the right photo
It was the inspiration for me to make this (which many of you have seen before)
I wanted something that sounded similar to this V but that I could sit in an armchair with......

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Feline%20Lion%20Special/lionspecialfull2.jpg)
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Feline%20Lion%20Special/lionspecialfull1.jpg)
Another thumbs up for the colour, looks beautiful.  :D

Great photos too, even the chrome hardware seems to have a special glow against the purple paintwork.

Another thumbs up for the colour, looks beautiful.  :D
Great photos too, even the chrome hardware seems to have a special glow against the purple paintwork.

I just invested in some new softboxes and studio lights - so I'm having fun taking photos again.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Loomer on November 10, 2011, 11:29:43 PM
One day, Mr. Law.. One fine day..
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Antag on November 11, 2011, 09:22:34 AM
One day, Mr. Law.. One fine day..
DO IT!  Trust me, you will never regret it.  My (http://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=18047.0) Feline is such a fantastic guitar & puts a huge grin on my face every time I pick it up.  It's been one of my "go to" guitars ever since I got it...
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: gwEm on November 11, 2011, 06:11:21 PM
Sounds like a custom order developing there Ian
Not just one.  I've finally answered the question of what colour my second Feline Panther will be... :)

Ooh - exciting!

Yes - purple is an interesting colour - some folks like it and others don't

Thanks for the positive feedback
Prices on these start at about £1800 going up to £2000 for colour and binding options

And what are the prices on your V50?
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Philly Q on November 11, 2011, 06:36:13 PM
And what are the prices on your V50?

Which one's that?
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 11, 2011, 08:20:19 PM
OK - A quick bit of clarification of my range of Vs
Pricing is variable based on selected options (too many to list here), but this will give you an idea

V58 - Korina  from £2000

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Flying%20V/v58.jpg)

V70 - from £1800

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Flying%20V/v70.jpg)

V80 - shown here in ultraviolet - from £1800

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Flying%20V/V80ULTRAVIOLET2.jpg)

V Supreme - shown here with floyd and block inlays - from £2500

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v662/felineguitars/CUSTOM%20BUILT/Flying%20V/v-supreme.jpg)


I have also toyed with a version of the V90 and a few other oddball options too......
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: gwEm on November 11, 2011, 10:48:18 PM
Not sure whether they'd buy in to the V shape though. Gwem, do you get many 5-10 year olds lusting after you when you play a V? :lol:

not exactly :)

but the V is a funny thing I think, its different to other guitars in the way people see you. once you get known for playing a V theres no way back really. these days, i'd quite like to play strats - as I usually do at home.

i know though (from the occasions i've done it) that people who i may or may not know will come up to me after the show and ask whats happened to the V. theres no going back from it, i don't mind too much - I love Vs and they look fantastic after all, but I appreciate the qualities of other guitar models much more these days.

theres a few strat loving V players out there, and visa versa - and I can really see why!! i think that strats naturally encourage you to be play uniquely, particularly with lead. and obviously with a V, it has a very unique look about it, and people expect a certain flamboyant playing style.

now, in reality, my live guitar playing has gone from barely acceptable, to hamfistedly decent in the last couple of years - i'm no schenker. but play a V, and people will assume you are a guitar god simply having an off night. its a brilliant think to hide behind.

anyway, i've gone down the route a few of these players have done and tried to make my Vs more like strats. with bright neck pickups (parallel wired or miniHB) and one of my Vs I even moved the volume control to be nearer the strat position for violining. it all helps i think. i see Jonathan has put the volume control of his purple V in the ideal position too.

my favourite V, and infact guitar in general, is a Gibson '84 V (the Johnny Winter one) which Jonathan's had a little fettle of, and I've done some fettling of my own too. its fantastic, but i still dream of the volume knob being in the strat place :) no way i'm moving it on that guitar!

the other thing with Vs is - the different models all play so different. with strats, i find theres alot more consistency. for example my hardtail mahogany strat has a flat radius warmoth neck and should be very different to my 67 replica bravewood, but i still end up playing in pretty much the same way. i don't find the same with Vs, my 79 is very different from my 84, and again i played a 75 once which was different again. 70s Vs are about the loose string tension i think.

i could go on, but thats enough V ramblings for one night
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: gwEm on November 11, 2011, 11:18:59 PM
nah! I will bang on some more about my favourite thing :)

regarding the 84 Johnny Winter V. it has an ebony board, which is by far my preference. the action was already low and fast, and thanks to Jonathan its even more slick. but the funny thing is that despite the great action the neck profile has all the sophistication of a stoneage club. its not really fat at all, but theres not been much thought put into the radiusing of it. i really like it though - gives me a firm anchor point, and feels really trusty. similarly, the dirty finger pickups couldn't ever be described as sophisticated, but they are hot as lava and i like the 'gruff' sound as Jonathan puts it. fits the guitar.

i reckon if jonathan spec'd me a V theres not much i'd need to change about his ideas. i think hes got my taste in Vs sussed totally.

but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model. my first V was an Epiphone '58 copy which I still have and play. don't play it too much live any more. i've sometimes got lucky with the more modern looking Vs too, but that Epi was the only one where I actually got girls offering to help me carry it home. ending up going out with one of them for 5 years  :D
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FernandoDuarte on November 11, 2011, 11:24:41 PM
but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model.  that Epi was the only one where I actually got girls offering to help me carry it home. ending up going out with one of them for 5 years  :D

Good to know :lol:
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 12, 2011, 12:07:30 AM
but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model.  that Epi was the only one where I actually got girls offering to help me carry it home. ending up going out with one of them for 5 years  :D

Good to know :lol:

So that's why I get so many enquiries about that model
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Philly Q on November 12, 2011, 01:30:16 AM
but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model. my first V was an Epiphone '58 copy which I still have and play.

That's the only style of V I'd really like to have now.  I like the slightly different body and headstock shapes, the neck heel.... and the gold hardware on korina.  When you think that design is over 50 years old, it's amazing.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: HTH AMPS on November 13, 2011, 11:18:30 AM
looks great, but I'd prefer neck binding (actually binding all round the body would be my preference).

love the colour, really unusual and striking.



Sounds like a custom order developing there Ian

ha ha, I'd love to mate but sadly I'd be lucky to scr@pe together a deposit nevermind anything else - for the next year I'll be broke saving a financial miracle (loan repayments end next October, woo!!!!).

Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: bucketshred on November 13, 2011, 11:43:39 AM
I had a go on the purple Vee yesterday and what a lovely guitar it was! Smooth, huge, looks amazing in that purple and so easy to play! Even the Mrs was impressed!!

Paddy
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Andrew W on November 13, 2011, 12:22:47 PM
but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model. my first V was an Epiphone '58 copy which I still have and play.

That's the only style of V I'd really like to have now.  I like the slightly different body and headstock shapes, the neck heel.... and the gold hardware on korina.  When you think that design is over 50 years old, it's amazing.

That Ted McCarty was a bright lad!

I love the 50s shape V most of all though I must admit that the 'sleeker' modern shape suits that purple V, seems to match the modernity of the paint job. I had a Tokai 50s style V for a while, it was the guitar that got me back into electrics so, although I don't have it anymore, I have a lot to thank it for.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 14, 2011, 01:06:16 PM
but funnily, the best babe magnet in my experience in the original 50s model. my first V was an Epiphone '58 copy which I still have and play.

That's the only style of V I'd really like to have now.  I like the slightly different body and headstock shapes, the neck heel.... and the gold hardware on korina.  When you think that design is over 50 years old, it's amazing.

That Ted McCarty was a bright lad!

I love the 50s shape V most of all though I must admit that the 'sleeker' modern shape suits that purple V, seems to match the modernity of the paint job. I had a Tokai 50s style V for a while, it was the guitar that got me back into electrics so, although I don't have it anymore, I have a lot to thank it for.

Apparently it was Seth Lover of all people who designed the V...although McCartey's name appears on the patents
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Denim n Leather on November 14, 2011, 02:50:17 PM
The violet one looks ace!
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Andrew W on November 14, 2011, 03:08:14 PM

Apparently it was Seth Lover of all people who designed the V...although McCartey's name appears on the patents


That's interesting - someone somewhere is telling porkie pies then:

http://www.vintageguitar.com/2826/ted-mccarty/

Quote
Q: Obviously, I need to ask about those late-’50s futuristic guitars – the Flying V, the Explorer, and any Moderne prototypes – since they’ve become such collector’s items.

Ted: I personally designed those. Fender was talking about how Gibson was a bunch of old fuddie-duddies, and when I heard that through the grapevine, I was a little peeved. So I said, “Let’s shake ‘em up.” I wanted to come up with some guitar shapes that were different from anything else.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Loomer on November 14, 2011, 03:17:14 PM
I would like to go back to V's, but I'm kind of worried my flailing lead singer will snap it in half at some point.
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on November 15, 2011, 12:33:31 AM

Apparently it was Seth Lover of all people who designed the V...although McCartey's name appears on the patents


That's interesting - someone somewhere is telling porkie pies then:

http://www.vintageguitar.com/2826/ted-mccarty/

Quote
Q: Obviously, I need to ask about those late-’50s futuristic guitars – the Flying V, the Explorer, and any Moderne prototypes – since they’ve become such collector’s items.

Ted: I personally designed those. Fender was talking about how Gibson was a bunch of old fuddie-duddies, and when I heard that through the grapevine, I was a little peeved. So I said, “Let’s shake ‘em up.” I wanted to come up with some guitar shapes that were different from anything else.

Was Seymour Duncan who told me about the V and Seth Lover - I had asked him all about Seth one time when he was over in London and he spoke at length about him and said that he came up with the body shape on the V - mainly so it could stand up on it's own.

It may have been that ideas were tossed back and forth between Ted and his team and maybe Ted took the credit for it all - I don't know for sure...I'm just repeating what I was told
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Philly Q on November 15, 2011, 02:09:06 AM
It may have been that ideas were tossed back and forth between Ted and his team and maybe Ted took the credit for it all - I don't know for sure...I'm just repeating what I was told

I'm imagining them all sitting in Lord Sugar's boardroom now, looking daggers at each other...
Title: Re: NGD - BEHOLD THE ULTRAVIOLET V80
Post by: Andrew W on November 15, 2011, 07:47:25 AM

Apparently it was Seth Lover of all people who designed the V...although McCartey's name appears on the patents


That's interesting - someone somewhere is telling porkie pies then:

http://www.vintageguitar.com/2826/ted-mccarty/

Quote
Q: Obviously, I need to ask about those late-’50s futuristic guitars – the Flying V, the Explorer, and any Moderne prototypes – since they’ve become such collector’s items.

Ted: I personally designed those. Fender was talking about how Gibson was a bunch of old fuddie-duddies, and when I heard that through the grapevine, I was a little peeved. So I said, “Let’s shake ‘em up.” I wanted to come up with some guitar shapes that were different from anything else.

Was Seymour Duncan who told me about the V and Seth Lover - I had asked him all about Seth one time when he was over in London and he spoke at length about him and said that he came up with the body shape on the V - mainly so it could stand up on it's own.

It may have been that ideas were tossed back and forth between Ted and his team and maybe Ted took the credit for it all - I don't know for sure...I'm just repeating what I was told

That's really interesting, and was something I'd not heard before. Also I guess it's something we'll never know the truth about now, sadly.