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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Dakine on January 28, 2006, 07:29:23 PM

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Dakine on January 28, 2006, 07:29:23 PM

OK,
last thing lol.
Maybe should pickup somthing to be able to record my ditties.
I am guessing a modellor type that has pc interface and recording abilities?

What do y'all use here to record your clips/songs/riffs.

I am TOTALLY clueless on this (although researching).

Suggestions please, and NOT HIGH $$$$$$$ i.e. under $300 (am selling on Ebay and will have about that).

Cheers,
Nick

Title: PC Recording
Post by: dave_mc on January 28, 2006, 07:47:30 PM

i just use a cheapo £10 pc world mic into sound recorder.

it does the job...

 :twisted:

Title: PC Recording
Post by: chrisola on January 28, 2006, 08:16:18 PM

line6 guitarport is cheap and good

line6 tonebox is a bit more but better

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Cattivo Ragazzo on January 28, 2006, 08:22:05 PM

An audio interface would be good, 2 in 2 out will do, behringer do a cheap one, £60, then get a mic stand, a mic, and a mic lead.

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Dakine on January 28, 2006, 08:23:16 PM

Hey Chris

checking out toneport as I write. Looks pretty cool. Steep learning curve though I bet :(

That M-Audio is/was good deal with pedal thrown in but H-C reviews are not best on it.

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Guitar/Effects?sku=241102

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Dakine on January 28, 2006, 08:35:57 PM

OK
Toneport is out, my laptop aint up to snuff spec wise LOL

Guitarport is ok though.

Title: PC Recording
Post by: marmoset on January 28, 2006, 08:37:34 PM

This might help software wise, and its free so its worth a try :D .

http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Its a recording program, and its really easy to use. I use a cheapy computer mic with it and it sounds ok.

mole

Title: PC Recording
Post by: chrisola on January 28, 2006, 10:18:20 PM

audacity +1

i use:

amp > weber mass attenuator > guitarport (pre amp + 4x12 sim) > record with audacity.

or i can just use the line6 own modelling stuff... sounds good either way and audacity couldnt be easier to use (press record!)

N-Track studio is free and good for making songs on

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Searcher on January 29, 2006, 12:28:07 AM

If you need a mic, I recommend the Samson CO1U USB condenser mic. It plugs straight into a USB port on your computer so you don't have to worry about funny mic plugs or phantom power. I bought one the other day to record vocals on and it's quite good. Cheap too. It cost me $130 Canadian. The only thing is, it stinks so badly of foam-rubber that singing into it is like huffing.  :(

For software, you can't go past Acid Music for bargain PC recording. It has loops, too.

If you want to go straight into the computer, I think Acid Music has virtual amps as well.

Title: PC Recording
Post by: _tom_ on January 29, 2006, 01:50:23 AM

Yeah audacity is a good free recording program. Even comes with some plugin effect things. The wah is just stupid  :lol:

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Bainzy on January 29, 2006, 01:59:59 AM

If you've got $300 to spend, get a Shure SM57, a Behringer MIC100 preamp, a 24-bit soundcard where you can plug the preamp into it's line in and the rest would easily cover cables and stands. In fact you'd probably have enough left for a condenser microphone too.

Then record that stuff with Audacity as recommended above and you're sorted. There's no substitute for a mic'ed up guitar sound with an SM57  8)

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Dakine on January 29, 2006, 03:09:36 AM

Darn guys, getting abit techie for me LOL
Will look into it :)
Cheers

Title: PC Recording
Post by: HTH AMPS on January 29, 2006, 01:38:50 PM

I would also go the mic / preamp / soundcard route for the best mic'd up tone.  I have some clips that I recorded with a SM57 into a Mackie mixer then straight into my laptop's soundcard.  I've have a desktop pc with a Midiman Delta1010 soundcard and that really improves sound quality.

If someone can host my clips I'd be happy to have them posted here.

 :twisted:

Title: PC Recording
Post by: Floyd Pepper on February 05, 2006, 05:00:49 PM

I recently recorded some test files with the following set up:
Mackie 1604-VLZ mixer
TL Audio FatMan 1 compressor (valve pre-amp with solid state compressor)
M-Audio 1010-LT sound card
Sure SM57 mic
Cornford Harlequin amp
Native Instruments Guitar Rig

I tried the following:
Guitar into compressor into mixer into sound card
Guitar into mixer into sound card
Guitar into amp into mic into mixer send-return to compressor into sound card

The results were:
Guitar into mixer sounded very thin and flat

Guitar into compressor sounded very good.  This compressor is designed to take guitars as a direct input.  I fed the recorded guitar into NI Guitar Rig with very good results.  Guitar Rig is a great product.

Guitar into amp sounded best but...You can only get the sounded that your amp is capable of producing.  With GR I could take the same recording and try in with a shed sound (which the Cornford can't produce) or a nice clean amp sound (which it can).

Overall:
Micing up an amp gives the best sound if you're like the sound of that amp.  DI box/compressor and good amp modeling software is what I use most as it's easy and quiet.

I'd post the clips but the machine with the clips on it keeps giving crashing when I try and copy the files off.  :(