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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 10:30:33 AM

Title: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 10:30:33 AM
Not that I get on well with Mark at Guitars4You at all, but he opened up the shop especially for me to grab this at 8:30pm last night  :lol:

He's had it a little while and dropped the price a couple of weeks ago, and I was tempted.  On Thursday he dropped it another £200 and 20 mins later he had a phone call   8)

It's a Chris Henderson signature singlecut in glorious McCarty Burst with a (and my first, would you believe) 10-top.  I love the look of the guitar, and it's around the ideal 8lbs in weight.  I've been unhappy with my Drop D live sound for a while (using my Esquire, it's just not thick enough) so a 25" scale singlecut with an adjustable bridge should be perfect.

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guitar%20stuff/2012-01-28100320.jpg)


I also thought the hot pickups would be spot on too, but....

The original owner dicked about with the wiring and installed Classic '57s in the neck and bridge   :shock:

So, BKPs it is.  I just need to decide which ones now though.  Any suggestions?  I'm after classic-style tones from the neck and middle but something a bit hotter for the bridge to cope with gainy down tunings (Drop D and Open G).

Whatever I go for, it'll be Zebras in the neck/middle and a Reverse Zebra in the bridge at Mrs Twinfan's request:

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guitar%20stuff/2012-01-28102105.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Matt77 on January 28, 2012, 11:05:38 AM
Another one and a single cut, so it has no chance in the stable of Dave. :)
In the transient time it is with you and presuming you don't want ceramics, i'd give the emeralds a blast.
Have you had them before though? I can't quite remember.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 11:08:30 AM
Yeah, I had Emeralds in a McCarty Korina and liked them.  Cold Sweats are appealing a bit too for a more modern sound.

You can tell I'm a Thin Lizzy fan can't you  ;)
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Stevepage on January 28, 2012, 11:08:46 AM
Jealous! Looks great.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 11:28:04 AM
Another one and a single cut, so it has no chance in the stable of Dave. :)

Bought for a specific job though this one Matt, and with a longer scale - there must be an SC out there I can love!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: roland_rat on January 28, 2012, 11:28:42 AM
Congrats.  Looks another nice one.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: PhilKing on January 28, 2012, 01:24:30 PM
Nice guitar Dave.  I looked at one in New York last month, as they seem to have reduced the prices on them here, but I'm leaning towards a Santana or Hollowbody at the moment.  With the original pickups there were some great tones to be had from it.  I'd be tempted to put a pair of VHII's and an Emerald in it, given what you were saying you wanted, but I think the PRS pickups have a lower output middle that's wired out of phase (it gives the guitar an almost single coil sound when you bring it in).  If that is the case then perhaps a set of PG Blues and an Emerald might work to restore the original sound. 
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Philly Q on January 28, 2012, 04:39:29 PM
I was very tempted to buy that guitar at the price, glad it went to someone I know!  :lol:

Agreed with the alternating black/cream colour scheme, that's exactly what I'd do on a three pickup guitar!

I'd be thinking Emeralds or Abraxas, but Phil's suggestion of a lower output middle pickup is interesting - I'd been wondering if that would be the way to go in this kind of setup.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Tellboy on January 28, 2012, 04:48:29 PM
I was very tempted to buy that guitar at the price, glad it went to someone I know!  :lol:


So was I  :D

Still got the Cold Sweats I removed from my PRS Standard before I traded it in - would have loved to have tried them in that guitar.

Never fret (excuse pun) Philly you might get a second chance at it in a few days/weeks  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Philly Q on January 28, 2012, 04:50:33 PM
Still got the Cold Sweats I removed from my PRS Standard before I traded it in - would have loved to have tried them in that guitar.

Never fret (excuse pun) Philly you might get a second chance at it in a few days/weeks  :lol:

And I have a set of Cold Sweats and a set of Emeralds....  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Telerocker on January 28, 2012, 04:57:54 PM
That's a stunning beauty. Did you consider Rebel Yells? Or a RY for the bridge, Mule-middle and Emerald-neck.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Ian Price on January 28, 2012, 06:30:56 PM
Nice one Dave! Another one that might make the journey down south one day? :wink:

I've now reached a point where I'm more surprised when you DON'T buy another guitar!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 06:54:59 PM
I've just removed the middle pickup cover (it was only loosely soldered on) so I think I may well keep the original PRS #7 there.  It's a 7.4k Alnico neck pickup, so classic low PAF style I guess.

So do you reckon:

Emerald bridge
PRS #7 middle
VHII neck

Blimey, what the hell would that sound like????
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Mr. Air on January 28, 2012, 06:57:01 PM
That looks like one very nice guitar. I love the colour, but I always find that three humbuckers look a bit odd. Pickups-wise what about a set of Abraxas and a MQ for the middle? I think that could be a sweet combination.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Gooby on January 28, 2012, 07:40:22 PM
The single cut fixed bridge are one of my fave PRS, although I think 2 pickups would be enough for me lol. It's on my to play list if I ever shop for a Gibson Les Paul.

Martin
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Ian Price on January 28, 2012, 07:51:02 PM
I've never been convinced by 3 PUP LPs. For some reason it looks good on this guitar, is the back of the body longer on these than a LP? Somehow it looks more 'right' and less crowded than on a Gibson LP.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: dave_mc on January 28, 2012, 08:20:08 PM
very nice :lol:

that's some killer photoshopping there in the second pic :lol: (still better than when i try it :oops: )
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: nfe on January 28, 2012, 08:41:19 PM
Reckon you'll use the middle pickup much? I find middle humbuckers really obtrusive and haven't ever had much use for the sounds they do, but I do like that honky, half-way sound.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 28, 2012, 09:39:03 PM
that's some killer photoshopping there in the second pic :lol: (still better than when i try it :oops: )

No photoshopping - I printed out onto paper Zebras from the BKP web page!  :lol:

Reckon you'll use the middle pickup much? I find middle humbuckers really obtrusive and haven't ever had much use for the sounds they do, but I do like that honky, half-way sound.

I think it'll be good for the Open G stuff we do, it's a good rhythm tone with a bit of crunch.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Philly Q on January 28, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
I've never been convinced by 3 PUP LPs. For some reason it looks good on this guitar, is the back of the body longer on these than a LP? Somehow it looks more 'right' and less crowded than on a Gibson LP.

I imagine the third pickup would get in the way, but the extra tonal possibilities are interesting, and they do look very cool - plus there's the Peter Frampton association, the Ace Frehley association, that Hendrix SG.... 8)
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: dave_mc on January 28, 2012, 09:54:14 PM
No photoshopping - I printed out onto paper Zebras from the BKP web page!  :lol:

ahahahaha even better :lol:
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Brow on January 29, 2012, 12:09:37 AM
I don't understand how the country can still be in recession going by what you've spent on guitars over the last few years Dave  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: viking on January 29, 2012, 12:38:17 AM
I would keep the covers on,it looks much better  8)!Btw,the classics'57's are supposed to be nice pu's .How do you like them in the SC CH ?It's a 25' scale but it should still sound more like a LP,no ?You could also put a '57+ for the bridge pu...it's hotter.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 29, 2012, 08:34:51 AM
They sound like Classic '57s always do - nice enough for soft-in-the-bass blues tones.  They're just too warm, fuzzy and indistinct for my liking.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Ian Price on January 29, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
I had classic 57s in my 335. I'd agree with Dave in that they are great for bluesy tones, I think if I still had the 335 now I'd have swapped for something with a bit more bite.

I don't understand how the country can still be in recession going by what you've spent on guitars over the last few years Dave  :lol:

I'm sure Dave is spending just to keep the economy going. Such a great gesture.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 29, 2012, 10:50:03 AM
Aw shucks, you know guys - I try and do my part!  :lol:

I'm really struggling to decide what pickups to put in this SC.  I want something modern and non-PAF, so I think a ceramic in the bridge:

* Original 250 and #7, if I can get them?
* PRS Tremonti set?
* Nailbomb set?
* Painkiller bridge and Cold Sweat neck?

I'm thinking the latter at the moment...
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Philly Q on January 29, 2012, 10:52:51 AM
* Painkiller bridge and Cold Sweat neck?

I'm thinking the latter at the moment...

Now you are getting into seriously modern territory!  :o

Dave bringz da br00talz, or whatever it is the young coves say.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Ian Price on January 29, 2012, 10:59:50 AM
* Painkiller bridge and Cold Sweat neck?

I'm thinking the latter at the moment...

Now you are getting into seriously modern territory!  :o

Dave bringz da br00talz, or whatever it is the young coves say.


 :D

I think the real question here is "does it Djent?"
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: 38thBeatle on January 29, 2012, 11:27:02 AM
I am late on this one but congrats Dave, it looks a pretty guitar to me. Lovely colour too. Interesting in what you think of the Classic 57's. I have them in my 339 and I am still enjoying the tones but I love the bluesy side of things but I'd agreed with your impressions.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: James C on January 29, 2012, 11:42:08 AM
Painkiller Bridge and Cold Sweat neck is a really good combo, I got Jon to fit them to my signature LP and was suprised at how versatile the PK is, sounds really good for heavy rock and blues with a bite!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 29, 2012, 11:42:14 AM
They're nice pickups but I personally found they're best in 335s and SGs playing the softer side of things.

It's a Cold Sweat set or Painkiller bridge/CS neck for this one I think.  I want fat and punchy with a bit of crisp on top...
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Telerocker on January 29, 2012, 12:56:13 PM
Then the RY is an option too?
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: PhilKing on January 29, 2012, 01:12:41 PM
If you want ceramic, the CS set is a good combo.   You could look for a Dragon I bridge too, if you wanted to keep PRS pickups.   You could also go with the C-Bomb and either Abraxas or CS neck.   Not sure if the RY's would be too bright in that guitar.
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Brow on January 29, 2012, 01:35:25 PM
I have a set of nickel covered PRS Dragons (originals, not the IIs) if it's something you'd be interested in?
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: keith on January 29, 2012, 01:38:27 PM
Nice Dave im hankering after a PRS myself quite liking the Bernie Marsden sig...if I can sort finances
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on January 29, 2012, 06:58:03 PM
The Bernie's a nice, Keith.  I think this SC has a Marsden vibe about it.

I was over at a mate's earlier and played a CUstom 24 that had 59/09 pickups in it and they sounded really good.  It looks like Black Dogs are the closest spec-wise to them, so I think they're now in the running.

Arrrrgghh!  Too many choices!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on February 07, 2012, 02:43:39 PM
Well I ordered Black Dogs via Jon @ Feline last week, and they're ready for collection this weekend.  Thanks BKP!

I'll get them fitted ready for a gig next weekend and see how they get on.  I'm looking forward to owning a set of BKPs again!  ( :oops: )
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 12, 2012, 11:39:09 AM
Was good to see you and Philly yesterday .
Look forward to hearing how you get on with the new pickups
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2012, 05:15:54 PM
It was great to see you too Jon, and Philly of course  :)

Black Dogs are in and they sound really, really good in this guitar.  I have it sporting 11s and tuned to Drop D, and it sounds as I has hoping it would.  I'm looking forward to gigging it on Sat!

(http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r267/junkacct/Guitar%20stuff/2012-02-12163704.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Ian Price on February 12, 2012, 05:19:02 PM
That looks great Dave! I'm not that familiar with Black Dogs, will be interested in your thoughts on them when you have gigged.

Would like to have been around yesterday - maybe some other time!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Philly Q on February 12, 2012, 06:05:30 PM
Looks great, but I think you are going to have to put another zebra pickup in the middle there!  Out-of-phase Mule maybe?
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2012, 06:15:19 PM
I quite like it as Phil, the middle is only used with the others anyway...
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: HTH AMPS on February 12, 2012, 06:48:33 PM
did you add the middle p/up Dave or was it stock?
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Mr. Air on February 12, 2012, 06:50:55 PM
It looks nice and probably sounds nice as well  :D

I would have gone for a reverse zebra for the bridge though, but that's just me.

Oh... And welcome back in the BKP family  :wink:
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on February 12, 2012, 06:57:46 PM
I would have gone for a reverse zebra for the bridge though, but that's just me.

Oh... And welcome back in the BKP family  :wink:

It is reverse zebra on the bridge - normal BKP zebra has cream on the screw coil - like this

(http://www.felineguitars.com/images/Guitars/lion/Lion%20-%2020th%20anniversary/20th%20ann%20lion%202.jpg)

The OCD person in me needs to see a twin screw coil reverse zebra coil in the middle too Dave - just to balance things up
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Mr. Air on February 12, 2012, 07:07:14 PM
I would have gone for a reverse zebra for the bridge though, but that's just me.

Oh... And welcome back in the BKP family  :wink:

It is reverse zebra on the bridge - normal BKP zebra has cream on the screw coil - like this

(http://www.felineguitars.com/images/Guitars/lion/Lion%20-%2020th%20anniversary/20th%20ann%20lion%202.jpg)

The OCD person in me needs to see a twin screw coil reverse zebra coil in the middle too Dave - just to balance things up

OK my bad  :D But i still like the reverse look (like the pic) which is not the reverse look  :D
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Twinfan on February 12, 2012, 08:10:51 PM
did you add the middle p/up Dave or was it stock?

Stock on this Henderson signature model, Ian.

The OCD person in me needs to see a twin screw coil reverse zebra coil in the middle too Dave - just to balance things up

Nah, I like the imbalance.  The top is so perfect it needs a bit of imperfection!
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Telerocker on February 13, 2012, 01:13:31 AM
Great looking Lion.  8)
Title: Re: NGD - Yep, another PRS...
Post by: Mr. Air on February 13, 2012, 09:21:48 AM
Great looking Lion.  8)

Indeed!!!  :D