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At The Back => Time Out => Topic started by: Afghan Dave on February 13, 2012, 09:50:26 PM
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I've just found I've been sharing my kitchen with a rodent... he ran around me and under my sink and I'm not happy PDT_039 PDT_041 PDT_047
Have any of you had this problem?
I'm kinda sure it's only one (please God) but what success have you guys had with DIY rat dispatch?
DON'T SAY GET A CAT!
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Borrow Feline's....
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I found a mouse in my kitchen years ago at my old house, they tend to come into warm kitchens when it gets really cold outside. Tried leaving my cat in the kitchen, she lasted 5 minutes before scratching on the door and crying to come back into the lounge so that wasn't really a successful measure.
You've got to block up any holes a rodent can get through - and mice can get through surprisingly tiny holes with surprising ease. We ended up with mice living in the ceiling space, scratching around at all hours of the night, quite disconcerting if you're up late watching a creepy film.
Humane mousetraps are available, if you've really got to trap the rat then I'd recommend those. Not only for animal respect reasons, if you've ever had to clean up a squished rat in your house then you'll appreciate being able to dispose of the rat miles from your home.
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put down a trap?
A lot of houses ive lived in in london have had mice. I find as long as you keep the worktops and floors free of crumbs and stuff then eventually they learn there is no food for them and they stop mooching about.
If you have a rat though thats pretty bad. I met a girl who caught weils disease from a rat. not good
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Had them in our garage when we first moved into our current house, but that was because some idiot had moved the soil stack and not closed off the open pipe to the sewer - I'm sure that's not the case in your kitchen! For us getting rid of them was just a case of realising where they were getting in (that pipe) and closing it off. Never had another problem after that.
After catching your visitor in a trap I guess you just need to see if you can figure out where he got in and seal it off?
Best of luck! I know it is a horrible feeling when you find one.
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some idiot had moved the soil stack and not closed off the open pipe to the sewer - I'm sure that's not the case in your kitchen!
This is precisely why I'm always careful to close off any open sewer pipes I find in my kitchen.
Just remembered, never bait mousetraps with cheese, they hate the smell of cheese. Chocolate is far better.
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I "think" it's a rat but a small one. :?
He must have come in to get warm and because the builders are digging up the street next door down to the foundations.
The humane traps look like a good bet because then I will eventually come face to face with my foe whom I have decided to call "Rat-Sputin"... giving me closure.
The disease aspect freeks the sh1t outta me.... :(
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leptospirosis
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Use a humane trap, catch it and then train it. Make it yours to command!!
From there, whatever you see fit (but donīt forget to teach it funnies).
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Put safety boots (with metal points) and kick it :)
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(http://www.kineticnorth.com/UserFiles/Gilgamesh/killitwithfire.gif)
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I love Flame-throwers :twisted:
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Really...thanks... this isn't helping. PDT_021
Gonna buy a trap tomorrow. If I catch it I will post a picture.
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some idiot had moved the soil stack and not closed off the open pipe to the sewer - I'm sure that's not the case in your kitchen!
This is precisely why I'm always careful to close off any open sewer pipes I find in my kitchen.
Just remembered, never bait mousetraps with cheese, they hate the smell of cheese. Chocolate is far better.
That's a total lie.
I was in Tesco the other day, and I saw a mouse running around (I kid you not) the cheese isle, trying to get up and the yummy yellow stuff.
Please don't try to tell me again that Tom and Jerry have been lying to me all my life.
I've no experience with rats (apart from my lovely Rat modified Blackheart Little Giant...), but I had to remove squirrels from my loft a few years back. Had to buy a proper squirrel trap, which worked a treat.
So - the trap gets my vote. Put cheese in it...
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get two. put cheese on one, chocolate in the other... this needs settling!
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Good luck Dave - hope you get it sorted ASAP!
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i've had mice in 2 flats, and an old girlfriend had a full on infestation.
the thing with traps is "for every mouse you see theres five you don't" or whatever the number is. you may kill a few, but you may not solve the problem.
i've had good fortune (so far) with those ultrasonic pest deterrents. you plug them in and the mice bugger off in a couple of days.
maybe they could solve your rat problem?
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i've had good fortune (so far) with those ultrasonic pest deterrents. you plug them in and the mice bugger off in a couple of days.
You mean 8 bit?
get two. put cheese on one, chocolate in the other... this needs settling!
Get three and put a cigarette on the third!
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i've had good fortune (so far) with those ultrasonic pest deterrents. you plug them in and the mice bugger off in a couple of days.
You mean 8 bit?
ho ho ;)
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I have had mice for years - electronic sonic deterents work for a while, but they get used to it. The human traps are great for your conscience but they don't control the problem and you continue getting the infestation as the young grow. Even a cat keeps them on visibly away - you still find their excrement everywhere in the morning.
One has to kill them with a mixture of poison and traps to actually stop them infesting. You know you are winning when you start getting the baby mice that are looking for food having not been fed for a while.
That means getting used to dealing with the corpses. I have found Kitkat dipped in peanut butter the best bait
The best thing for both mice and rats is this bar-steward baited with the above:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Procter-Bros-Ltd-PSERK-Electronic/dp/B000FII3YW/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1329215547&sr=8-1
but be warned coz it packs a punch to humans too.....
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Elliot, I like that "rat zapper" and will try that if the simple one doesn't work. I've bought a conventional trap to try tonight, so wish me luck.
I've been looking for the entry point and I just can't work it out.
I'll deal with this bugger and then keep a trap baited to see if he was alone. I really think that he just came in out of the cold by himself as I have NEVER had a problem like this before.
Gonna try a bit of warm Snickers as bait tonight.
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Gonna try a bit of warm Snickers as bait tonight.
That might work for your other pray as well...
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an old girlfriend had a full on infestation.
I hate it when that happens
I've been looking for the entry point and I just can't work it out.
I hate it when that happens too
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I've been looking for the entry point and I just can't work it out.
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:)
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Gonna try a bit of warm Snickers as bait tonight.
Spoken like a master baiter!
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I've been looking for the entry point and I just can't work it out.
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:)
any hole is a potential entry point
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Dave doesn't even have to say anything anymore, just his presence in a thread is enough to get everyone spitting out the double entendre's :)
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If the entry point is relatively discreet, clean and not too messy structurally you can fill it.
I find No More Nails on a pump gun does the trick.
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This is NOT funny :x but I s'pose I've had this coming for a while... so go on laugh it up guys.
(I was going to say that it must be a bit wide around a pipe but that would only encourage you sh1ts)
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If I find a hole I'll pump it full in a second...
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If the entry point is relatively discreet, clean and not too messy structurally you can fill it.
I find No More Nails on a pump gun does the trick.
that sounds a good technique to stop Afghan's hairy beast re-entering
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If you've got one of the old school traps I'd also make sure you have a blunt instrument, like a shovel, too. I say this because in my experience with mice the traps often don't kill them, so you may come down in the morning to find a badly injured but not dead rodent and you'll need something to administer the last rights. It's not pleasant and it sucks that this has happened to you but you can sort it given time and a methodical approach.
Also, don't use poison. Apart from the obvious risks of accidental contamination, if your trespasser does eat some, he or she will crawl somewhere inaccessible to die and that will not smell good. Had a friend who made that mistake. :(
Good luck.
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I wouldn't use poison for exactly that reason, plus I want to know 100% it is out of my house.
I'm ready!
(http://fnacpantherimage.toutlecine.com/photos/e/v/i/evil-dead-ii-1987-04-g.jpg)
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That's exactly what you need mate - a big tool to smash it senseless with.
I've had mice in my garage recently. They all appear to have gone now though with minimal force from me. I just got rid of loads of rubbish* that had been hanging around for too long.
*old rags, towels and jeans.
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You could sit in the quiet reading James Herbert novels and wait its return.
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We had a mouse when we stayed at a CenterParcs villa once. He used to come out and see us once we put the kids to bed.
That story doesn't actually go anywhere.
Except that I suspect that my little intruder was in all likelihood, much smaller than Dave's - a shame that I will take to my grave.
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Killing the rat isn't the hardest part necessarily - finding out where it came from is key. I know we're all detached from death and cycle of life etc and all that stuff, but hey: it's a rat. There's a reason they're called vermin. In my book you're responsible for far greater misery if you buy cheap meat in a supermarket.
Cats and a dog work best, a dog might also help you find the entry hole (maybe a friend has a dog? especially terriers are good). We had cats and dogs (but only mice where we live). The cats are very effective at killing them, but dogs can sniff out the holes and lairs. Our dog loved to dig out them little mice in the vineyards where we used to live, bad surprise for the poor little suckers, I'll tell you ;-) Otherwise I think you should go for a death trap and not poison. The last thing you want is a dead rat rotting away somewhere in the wall.
BTW did you know rats are physically incapable of throwing up? One of reasons poison works so well on them.
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Most commercially available poison contains a preservative that minimizes the smell of the corpse - although it works better with mice than rats.
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Oh the smell of rotting vermin...
When I lived back with my parents we once had something die in the wall of the bathroom. The first day I though someone just had a really bad dump, but then it grew worse and stayed for weeks. Leaves a really nice taste in your mouth when brushing your teeth.
PS: Sorry Dave, but I laughed my ass off at some of the things said in this thread xD Your aura is really amazingly strong.
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Start a poll - "what should Afghan Dave put in his rat trap?"
Or get a lot of traps and number them so we can have a sweepstake, Ģ1 a go. Name your trap and if there's a dead rodent there in the morning you win the pot. Otherwise it rolls over to next week.
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The winner gets...
(http://www.jedistar.com/images/amp/rat_hot_rod_valve_special.jpg)
Second a copy of...
(http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/52e8439e73524e86f50d48c770d187cd/444862.jpg)
Third prize:
(http://static.flickr.com/83/256398879_747d116bb2.jpg?v=0)
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Third prize:
(http://static.flickr.com/83/256398879_747d116bb2.jpg?v=0)
Awwwww....... :cry:
(I've already got one of those amps)
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OK, I know what I'm giving Philly for his birthday!
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We had Mice in our old Kitchen once, put out some humane traps with peanut Butter in them, and they went for them the moment we turned off the light and closed the door! Peanut butter really seems to milk their Guernsey.
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I have 2 domesticated rats as pets. They are a lot of fun with very little responsibility. Wild ones are indeed gross and should be handled with the same mindset as stray dogs/cats.
As far as catching them goes, they'd much rather move along the side of the wall and between things than risking it out in open space. They are climbers so don't think your dry food storage area is safe. My rats love the hell out of peanut butter, dry cereal, chocolate chips and whole peanuts but kernels of corn seem to be the favorite. I'd imagine peanut butter working best in a trap as they can't pick it off and run with it. They are the most active from dusk to dawn so I wouldn't be upset if you set some traps before work and didn't find a little bloody ball of furry stink in one of them when you got home.
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What he said. Rodents all tend to develop "rat runs" and stick to the same path, usually close to the walls.
And just to be humane as possible, do check the traps regularly. Often a trap will just maim the rodent and it's not nice to leave it there suffering if you can avoid it. Regrettably it then becomes your duty to drop a brick on the little bugger.
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There are special larger snap traps available for the bigger guys that will put them out better than the mouse sized ones. Definitely do not use a glue trap. I worked at a grocery during High School and walked in the back area one time to find 6 or 7 baby mice stuck to one and they were all alive. It was kind of depressing because you could see the progression. They get all four legs stuck and then try to push off with their face and get that stuck as well leaving them to starve to death or suffocate if they pressed their kisser into the adhesive. If I could turn back time I'd put a stamp on it and try to mail it as a post card from Disneyland.
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We had Mice in our old Kitchen once, put out some humane traps with peanut Butter in them, and they went for them the moment we turned off the light and closed the door! Peanut butter really seems to milk their Guernsey.
Peanut butter worked a treat on my squirrels. Which are, apparently, just rats with better PR.
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When you have got to the level of hatred for rodents as I have glue traps baited with Reeses's peanut butter cup work a treat. When I used to be squeamish I used to put the glue traps in tissue boxes so I could chuck them away in the bin - but now, having got fed up with the lines of cr@p everywhere I dont really care and just chuck them in the bin squiggling away on the glue paper.
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When you have got to the level of hatred for rodents as I have glue traps baited with Reeses's peanut butter cup work a treat. When I used to be squeamish I used to put the glue traps in tissue boxes so I could chuck them away in the bin - but now, having got fed up with the lines of cr@p everywhere I dont really care and just chuck them in the bin squiggling away on the glue paper.
That's disgustingly cruel. You should at least finish the animal off. Leaving it in a bin to starve to death is unforgivable.
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stomp on it?
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When you have got to the level of hatred for rodents as I have glue traps baited with Reeses's peanut butter cup work a treat. When I used to be squeamish I used to put the glue traps in tissue boxes so I could chuck them away in the bin - but now, having got fed up with the lines of cr@p everywhere I dont really care and just chuck them in the bin squiggling away on the glue paper.
That's disgustingly cruel. You should at least finish the animal off. Leaving it in a bin to starve to death is unforgivable.
It's ok - there's already a cat in the bin as Mary Bale lives locally. http://youtu.be/MOuCjzVAO_w (http://youtu.be/MOuCjzVAO_w)
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When this thread started I never imagined the horrors that would be described. PDT_044
If only the rat could read.... leave your computer open on this page and it'll frighten him off.
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When this thread started I never imagined the horrors that would be described. PDT_044
Didn't thread started by "Afghan Dave" and the responses that may tend to invite lend such an outcome an almost grim inevitability? :?
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While I advocate killing them, I strongly suggest doing it quickly, to make the suffering minimal.
But like I said - you still need to find the entry point. There is no such thing as "one rat", just like there is not one c--kroach. Because they get killed a lot they breed quickly. Chances are there's a hole somewhere behind the furniture/stove/fridge or somewhere close to pipes. Rats are also good climbers so don't just look down all the time, in basements they like to climb on pipe close to the ceiling. They don't see very well, that's why they always stay in corners, where their whiskers can guide them.
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While we're on the subject of annoying animals, any tips on how to make my parrot stop squawking?
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While we're on the subject of annoying animals, any tips on how to make my parrot stop squawking?
Teach it to sing? I hear parrots have lovely singing voices
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Sing? He's useless, he won't even say hello. All he does is squawk and poo everywhere. And he tries eating the knobs on my mixing desk if I leave him alone too long.
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Sing? He's useless, he won't even say hello. All he does is squawk and poo everywhere. And he tries eating the knobs on my mixing desk if I leave him alone too long.
So he's the intellectual type then :wink:
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Sing? He's useless, he won't even say hello. All he does is squawk and poo everywhere. And he tries eating the knobs on my mixing desk if I leave him alone too long.
So he's the intellectual type then :wink:
I suppose so, I've worked with sound engineers who probably eat the knobs on mixing desks if you leave them alone too long.
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Four pages and nobody has posted a link to the classic UB40 song... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkz71zy8T8s&feature=related
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I suppose so, I've worked with sound engineers who probably eat the knobs on mixing desks if you leave them alone too long.
:lol:
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The bar-steward is totally uninterested in the trap!
I caught sight of him right next to it before he ran away.... I'm getting glue traps as I know his "rat run" route quite well by now.
ARGGHHHH! :x
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Whatever happens do not let the rat bite you. That happened to a friend of mine, he developed rat powers and started fighting crime.
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No worries... I was actually bitten by a Bonobo chimp at a Zoo when I was a child... soon after I found I could "do things" other humans didn't.
I stopped a car thief in his tracks the other day by masturbating vigorously and throwing poo... He won't try that again!
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So you haven't found the hole
You haven't grabbed the hairy beast
You can't get it into your trap
Your just not trying are you mate :) Try putting some tar out, if it's dyslexic it's try to make friends and get stuck in a close relationship
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I think it's time to step up your game.
One of these:
(https://encrypted-tbn1.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSBUe0wATu4CyM7rO0maAACHJ3viP9WanBLISY74fNn_SeVOiauYw)
One of these:
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And one of these:
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My mother gets rid of snails in her garden by sinking a bowl filled with beer. Apparently snails love the brown stuff.
Perhaps you could try the same with your rat?
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Another night.... No capture. :x I was sure the glue trap would get him but this guy is not playing by the rules.
Trouble is I'm gonna be sh*tfaced drunk this weekend so if I get back from a night out and he is caught.... I won't be 100% able to observe the Geneva convention.
And I get the munchies, so he might go under the grill.
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Another night.... No capture. :x I was sure the glue trap would get him but this guy is not playing by the rules.
Trouble is I'm gonna be sh*tfaced drunk this weekend so if I get back from a night out and he is caught.... I won't be 100% able to observe the Geneva convention.
And I get the munchies, so he might go under the grill.
I'm not totally sure that the Geneva Convention applies to animals as well :D
I say: Go karate kid in his arse!
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I think what we need here is a 24 hour live webcam feed from Afghan Dave's kitchen
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I think what we need here is a 24 hour live webcam feed from Afghan Dave's kitchen
Good idea, I could use the help... send me a pm if you spot the bugger!
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THERE IT IS! (http://kineticnorth.com/userfiles/Gilgamesh/rat.html)
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Get a Jack Russell in there. They're bred to kill Rats, Rabbits and verminous things like this.
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Get a Jack Russell in there. They're bred to kill Rats, Rabbits and verminous things like this.
He's not as nimble as he used to be....
(http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium/great-whites-jack-russell-2-jack-dagley.jpg)
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He's got a colostomy bag now..
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He's got a colostomy bag now..
Jack Russel or the rat?
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Get a Jack Russell in there. They're bred to kill Rats, Rabbits and verminous things like this.
He's not as nimble as he used to be....
(http://images.fineartamerica.com/images-medium/great-whites-jack-russell-2-jack-dagley.jpg)
Who is he?
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Errrr.......... Jack Russell. :P
Jack Russell of Great White, that is.
Or in fact, Jack Russell of "Jack Russell's Great White", since he's not actually in the real Great White any more.
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So it's Jack Russell from Jack Russell's Great White, gotcha.
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Wow, he's put on a bit of weight since he was keeping for England...
I've heard he only eats bananas, baked beans, and digestive biscuits - so he might not be that ideal for rat munching... he'd probably do you a good oil painting of it, though...
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Afghan: come on mate - news update needed! did you catch it?
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I'm at a loss... the thing is smart.
He's not fallen for any of my bait or the traps yet. :?
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Perhaps he has been on the forum.Maybe you should be a bit more clandestine.
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I'm at a loss... the thing is smart.
He's not fallen for any of my bait or the traps yet. :?
Knife fight!!! :twisted:
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bucket trap
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Use peanut butter in your trap. Works for me.
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mains plug, cut off other end, strip wires, cheese in close proximity, set webcam to motion record, wait for Youtube upload of the year in the making and a burning smell that will linger for a day or two :lol:
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mains plug, cut off other end, strip wires, cheese in close proximity, set webcam to motion record, wait for Youtube upload of the year in the making and a burning smell that will linger for a day or two :lol:
Better still, use the HT from a valve amp. Smear peanut butter inside a Marshall on standby overnight and wait for the fireworks.
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If you wanne catch a rat, you gotta think like a rat....live like a rat.
Now this is onyl an uneducated idea, but did you try setting up the traps and baits while wearing gloves? I could imagine rats smelling you and knowing to stay clear of it it (they are smart beasts).
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If you wanne catch a rat, you gotta think like a rat....live like a rat.
Now this is onyl an uneducated idea, but did you try setting up the traps and baits while wearing gloves? I could imagine rats smelling you and knowing to stay clear of it it (they are smart beasts).
Now this is good thinking.
And you probably ought to stop peeing in that corner of the kitchen for a while...
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Errrr.......... Jack Russell. :P
Jack Russell of Great White, that is.
Or in fact, Jack Russell of "Jack Russell's Great White", since he's not actually in the real Great White any more.
I can't say I've heard of him to be honest. I did see them support Motley Crew in '89 but some other bloke did the signing that night. i can't remember his name though, long time ago. :D
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Nor had I! He's nowhere near as famous as this one, Johnny...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40113000/jpg/_40113971_russell203.jpg)
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Jonathan's the man to ask about Great White, he's a big fan if I remember right.
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Nor had I! He's nowhere near as famous as this one, Johnny...
(http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40113000/jpg/_40113971_russell203.jpg)
One of the last 'proper' English cricketers in my opinion.
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One of the last 'proper' English cricketers in my opinion.
Ah! That means you're getting old... :lol:
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I've just realised, ole Afghan hasn't been on for a few days...
You didn't take Fernando's advice did you, Dave?? :o
Only pull a knife if you're really prepared to use it... otherwise the other b@stard'll grab it and use it on you ....
You alright, Dave? :?
Can someone go round and check? Naked man smeared in peanut butter lying on kitchen floor with big knife sticking out of him...
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I'm having a sulk, spraying Detol on surfaces while wondering what the rat may have pissed on last night... :(
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Is there any possibility it's just packed up and left?
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It could be a ghost rat. That would explain why you can't catch it.
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The rat is only a product of your mind, an image created by your subconcious, representing all that is dirty, immoral, etc that you have done and are. This is your subconcious trying to get away from that and lead you to better yourself. It is showing you your errors in a way you can realise and fight them.
You just have to look beyond the horizon. You are Jekyll and the rat is your Mr. Hyde.
Defeating the rat means bettering yourself, becoming a kind, mannered person. Kill your dark side, kill the rat!
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I'm having a sulk, spraying Detol on surfaces while wondering what the rat may have pissed on last night... :(
I hope it hasn't pissed on your toothbrush. That would be terrible. I mean, you'd be thinking about it every time you brushed your teeth.
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I'm having a sulk, spraying Detol on surfaces while wondering what the rat may have pissed on last night... :(
I hope it hasn't pissed on your toothbrush. That would be terrible. I mean, you'd be thinking about it every time you brushed your teeth.
:lol:
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"There is no spoon...sorry, Rat"
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Errrr.......... Jack Russell. :P
Jack Russell of Great White, that is.
Or in fact, Jack Russell of "Jack Russell's Great White", since he's not actually in the real Great White any more.
I can't say I've heard of him to be honest. I did see them support Motley Crew in '89 but some other bloke did the signing that night. i can't remember his name though, long time ago. :D
Crue didn't tour UK with Girls Girls Girls - they used the snow on the roof excuse
The tour you are thinking of is the Dr Feelgood tour and they had Skid Row and WHITE LION as support.
Great WHite have always had Jack Russell as singer till this recent set of problems and they replaced him with XYZ's Terry Illous.
There have been other members in and out of the band for various reasons , and some rejoined later (like Mark Kendall)
Jack Russell has been off form for some time - a mix of steroid use and drugs being the culprits
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I seem to recall Lemmy turned up for one of the Wembley gigs.
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I'm having a sulk, spraying Detol on surfaces while wondering what the rat may have pissed on last night... :(
I hope it hasn't pissed on your toothbrush. That would be terrible. I mean, you'd be thinking about it every time you brushed your teeth.
:lol:
you are BAD men, lmao :lol:
btw, here he is, he's taunting you...
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Errrr.......... Jack Russell. :P
Jack Russell of Great White, that is.
Or in fact, Jack Russell of "Jack Russell's Great White", since he's not actually in the real Great White any more.
I can't say I've heard of him to be honest. I did see them support Motley Crew in '89 but some other bloke did the signing that night. i can't remember his name though, long time ago. :D
Crue didn't tour UK with Girls Girls Girls - they used the snow on the roof excuse
The tour you are thinking of is the Dr Feelgood tour and they had Skid Row and WHITE LION as support.
Great WHite have always had Jack Russell as singer till this recent set of problems and they replaced him with XYZ's Terry Illous.
There have been other members in and out of the band for various reasons , and some rejoined later (like Mark Kendall)
Jack Russell has been off form for some time - a mix of steroid use and drugs being the culprits
Haha! Wrong band :lol: I knew it was white something. I did watch Skid Row that night too. This could be the onset of Alzheimers. :lol: