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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 03:48:40 AM

Title: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 03:48:40 AM
Hey BKP lovers, out of all the guitars you have tried which wood does the aftermath sound the best in?
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: DoomBuggi on February 16, 2012, 03:50:55 AM
Hey BKP lovers, out of all the guitars you have tried which wood does the aftermath sound the best in?

+1

I was wondering the same, as well as how would it fair in an LP?
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 04:05:35 AM
Same here, the eq chart shows more treble/mids than bass but most people describe the pickup as a growly pickup sorta like the warpig which I wouldn't think would sound to great in a heavy full mahogany body guitar.

I would also like to know how much ouput/gain this pickup puts out, like I can hear a HUGE difference between an EMG 81 and a duncan distortion, the dd in a les paul sounds a little fizzy and is no where near as compressed as the EMG and doesn't sound very tight.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Attica! on February 16, 2012, 04:54:00 AM
The Aftermath is one of them pickups, in my experience, that sounds great in all guitars - which is rare.

I personally like it in Maple Neck Thru guitars though. But that's probably because I use them for metal, and my other "exotic" wood guitars are used for more individial tones.

I can say I've tried it in all varieties, from Les Paul to Bolt On Fenders and it sounds great.|

Another notice is, you'll find you turn your Drive/Gain on your amp more as it eats your distortion because it's that clear. It's like having your own built in Noise Gate. That's my problem when it comes to overly feedbacky amps, with my noise gate, I find it way too dry. But I luckily own a custom made amp which is georgeous and lets me have a great tight metal tone without it sounding like I'm Djenting my way to Oblivion with a Noise Gate.

Many people (well some I know) use the Aftermath for Metalcore - as people put it - playing through Peavey 6505s, but I find the Miracle Man will really sound better through your Peavey for that style.

The neck I've actually never had, so I can't really comment on that.

Excuse the essay, I just thought I'd cover a few more points I guess  :shock:
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: ericsabbath on February 16, 2012, 03:56:53 PM
it was a beast in my '73 les paul custom
low end was too scratchy for me, though
it's a lot like the holy diver, but DRY
it's very mid centered and the mids are quite aggressive without getting muddy unlike the duncan distortion
like a slightly cleaner painkiller with mids shifted a bit to a lower frequency and a smoother top
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: DoomBuggi on February 16, 2012, 06:00:10 PM
I also wondered how well the Aftermath would do in a dark toned explorer....
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: darkbluemurder on February 16, 2012, 06:16:04 PM
... and how well it can fatten up a guitar with a Floyd Rose.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 06:38:35 PM
How would it sound in a basswood body maple neck through? I actually kinda like the way basswood sounds but there's always the problem of finding a pickup that doesn't sound bad through it. I would go for a miracle man but I don't want a lower mid focused pickup and I want the tightest passive pickup I can find that is thicker than the 81 and I honestly think the emg 81 is to tight to play anything beyond super fast metal.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Philly Q on February 16, 2012, 06:42:23 PM
I've only heard it in Feline's Ibanez Sabre (hardtail) which I think was mahogany with a bolt-on maple neck.

Sounded good but, as others have said, very tight, dry and, well..... djenty.


Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Attica! on February 16, 2012, 07:04:20 PM
How would it sound in a basswood body maple neck through? I actually kinda like the way basswood sounds but there's always the problem of finding a pickup that doesn't sound bad through it. I would go for a miracle man but I don't want a lower mid focused pickup and I want the tightest passive pickup I can find that is thicker than the 81 and I honestly think the emg 81 is to tight to play anything beyond super fast metal.

You definitely won't like the Aftermath or Miracle Man then if you think the 81 is too tight for anything beyond superfast metal. I say you've just described the Holy Diver on what you want. It works well in Basswood and works well in Maple. I've got one in a Maple Neck Thru/Alder Body and it rocks.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Madsakre on February 16, 2012, 07:05:42 PM
How would it sound in a basswood body maple neck through? I actually kinda like the way basswood sounds but there's always the problem of finding a pickup that doesn't sound bad through it. I would go for a miracle man but I don't want a lower mid focused pickup and I want the tightest passive pickup I can find that is thicker than the 81 and I honestly think the emg 81 is to tight to play anything beyond super fast metal.

Warpigs sounds very, very decent in basswood
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
I do play super fast metal as well as meshuggah type stuff but I don't want to be limited to that.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 07:36:09 PM
And I like the emg 81 but I think it lacked a bit of thickness and body and is the worst thing I have ever heard on a clean channel in my life.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: DoomBuggi on February 16, 2012, 08:07:01 PM
I do play super fast metal as well as meshuggah type stuff but I don't want to be limited to that.

I just installed a Painkiller Set into my Les Paul.  It is tight, crushing, and raw.  Despite what some people may think, I believe it can be a very diverse pickup.  I absolutely love them!   I'm still interested in the Aftermath, too.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 16, 2012, 08:12:32 PM
I do play super fast metal as well as meshuggah type stuff but I don't want to be limited to that.

I just installed a Painkiller Set into my Les Paul.  It is tight, crushing, and raw.  Despite what some people may think, I believe it can be a very diverse pickup.  I absolutely love them!   I'm still interested in the Aftermath, too.
Some people say its to harsh sounding, what do you think?
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: DoomBuggi on February 16, 2012, 08:29:39 PM
I do play super fast metal as well as meshuggah type stuff but I don't want to be limited to that.

I just installed a Painkiller Set into my Les Paul.  It is tight, crushing, and raw.  Despite what some people may think, I believe it can be a very diverse pickup.  I absolutely love them!   I'm still interested in the Aftermath, too.
Some people say its to harsh sounding, what do you think?

What do I think?  I think there is something on the amp called an EQ, that can take care of that, if its an issue.  There is also a tone knob on most guitars.  I wired my Les Paul with all BKP CTS 550k pots, and wired it to 50's spec with the Jensen BKP OIP caps that connect the volume pots to the tone pots.  Don't know if that makes a difference, some say it shaves a little top end off.  Either way, A proper EQ setting is the money on the tone.  Any pickup can sound harsh with to much treble dialed in. 

 People are habitual, meaning that we like to make things the same, and be in a comfort zone.  I found that I adjust my EQ most frequently, in regards to the room I'm playing in.  When ever I play at a different venue, I have to adjust it the EQ balance.  If you have the same setting all the time, chances are you tone won't sound the best to you, useless you are always in the same space, but then again different pickups have a balance, and I tweak my eq to the pickup, and not the other way around.  It also helps that I use 56-11 gauge strings in a E-flat standard to Drop C# setting.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 17, 2012, 02:49:33 AM
If you don't think I like the aftermath what would I like?

Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: DoomBuggi on February 17, 2012, 04:43:24 AM
I'm not sure if you wouldn't like the Aftermath.  From what I heard it sound like a good diverse pickup as well. Below are a few links.  Two of them are Nolly's Clips, which I believe show how you can get a tight modern, and crushing tone.  The last one is Eric's YouTube clip, ant it has more of a Heavy rock tone.  They are both the Aftermath, but completely different tones. 


Nolly 7 string Clip;
http://soundcloud.com/nolly/nolly-aftermath7 (http://soundcloud.com/nolly/nolly-aftermath7)

Nolly DM Clip
http://soundcloud.com/nolly/death-metal-mix (http://soundcloud.com/nolly/death-metal-mix)

Eric's Heavy Rock video clip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsnOsNe8vk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztsnOsNe8vk)


The only way to know is by ordering them, and trying them out.   If you are not into it, then you can always exchange it.  That actually happened to me.  I ordered the Nailbomb Set with the Ceramic Bridge.  Though they were super kick a$$ sounding, they weren't quite what I was going for.  I now know that I am into really more mids in my pickups. 

Before you decide to do anything, If I may suggest, do all the research you can do on it, listening to audio, asking the good folks on this forum, too.  After that, ask send an email to the BKP team.  Tell them what you are trying to achieve, the kind of guitar you have, and signal chain that you use.  They are extremely knowledgeable, friendly, and they desire people to be happy with tone. 

Of course I am totally assuming you don't know that info.  In case you do, my apologies. 


Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 17, 2012, 09:24:26 PM
I basically want a tight pickup that can handle basically every style of metal including opeth, meshuggah, death, megadeth, dream theater, cannibal corpse etc.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 22, 2012, 05:43:24 AM
Bump, what does the alnico nailbomb sound best in?
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Madsakre on February 22, 2012, 10:38:15 AM
Bump, what does the alnico nailbomb sound best in?
the box
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: OddFutureWolfGang on February 23, 2012, 02:59:45 AM
^ LMAO  :orcass:
I've heard a lot of great Aftermath tones in Misha Mansoor's mahogany guitars.
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: EffigyForgotten on February 23, 2012, 05:06:06 AM
The prog clip for the nailbomb sounds amazing though!
Title: Re: Aftermath-favorite tonewood?
Post by: Toe-Knee on February 24, 2012, 06:35:39 AM
Bump, what does the alnico nailbomb sound best in?
the box

 :lol: I agree entirely here

partyanimal - The aftermath can do all of the stuff you mentioned with ease btw