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At The Back => The Dressing Room => Topic started by: Loomer on February 29, 2012, 08:45:02 AM
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As the title says, this Monday I got booted out of Hexis. While this is a massive blow to my ego in some ways, I'm actually sort of relieved when all is said and done. Is that normal? :lol:
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Kicked out? You do something that pissed them off, or were you "asked to leave" nicely?
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I'm not sure if it's normal, but it's good to hear that you're not totally downed. I once got kicked out of a band and like you said, Loomer, it's a blow to the ego, but it wasn't that bad because the rest of the band wanted something else than me and I didn't want to go down the same road and I have never had any regrets afterwards (not any seroius regrets anyways :D).
If your parting didn't come out of the blue but had been lurking for some time I think it can be a big relif.
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They'd finally had enough of your 20 minute fee-time solos then?
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I got asked to leave, because I didn't value the touring aspect enough, so it was done politely enough, but the end result is still the same :p
I was going on about how we should really put writing new material as a priority, instead of doing more and more tours on the old material from the EP. Going an entire year plus a few months with only one new song ready seems a bit silly to me. They have a Russia tour lined up in April, and a MONTH AND ONE WEEK LONG TOUR WITH NO DAYS OFF AT ALL in the summer, plus a whole bucketload of weekenders in between. Plus probably some other stuff in between. All that will be on the back of the same 5-6 songs we've had for almost a year now. But apparently that's just how it's supposed to be, and now they've booted the main songwriter (riffs, that is... I take no responsibilty for the lyrics) so yeah, good luck with that.
Of course, there was the fact that I've hated the singer's guts from day one, and that in turn made me unnecessarily grumpy and cantankerous while out on tour. Of course, it's not fair that the others, who are great guys, and people at the venues have to put up with the "mr. Hyde" version of me just because one guy gets on my nerves.
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I'm not sure if it's normal, but it's good to hear that you're not totally downed. I once got kicked out of a band and like you said, Loomer, it's a blow to the ego, but it wasn't that bad because the rest of the band wanted something else than me and I didn't want to go down the same road and I have never had any regrets afterwards (not any seroius regrets anyways :D).
If your parting didn't come out of the blue but had been lurking for some time I think it can be a big relif.
It did come very much out of the blue for me, seeing as I'm conceited enough to think I was indispensable. I mean, I wrote all the riffs! A large part of the reason we were so well received, and the reviews were so good, was because of what I contributed via writing the music. It sounds egomaniacal (because, well, it is) but that's how I felt. But in the end everyone's replaceable once the songs are written.
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so: what now? you start a new band?
i go through phases of wanting to write and wanting to tour. seems like you are in a creative mood, so its for the best no doubt.
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Yeah, I'm gonna start a new band ASAP, since I love playing in a band. However, this one will be a bit more on my terms. I am tinkering with the idea of starting from scratch, assuming the role of "Band Captain" and pushing it forward from there. However, I'll do it without the callousness of my old vocalist and his relentless ambition.
Each two bands I've been in recently have taught me lessons:
Hexis has taught me, that if you run your band like your own little kingdom, and basically just disregard the sentiments of the band members, you will run the thing into the ground. I am 110% sure that Hexis will fall apart pretty soon, simply because I don't think anyone keep up with the pace set by the vocalist forever.
The death metal band me and Madsakre had, had a lot of potential and some truly great material, but we were just too $%&#ing lazy and unfocused, so it just fizzled out and never got anywhere. At all. So the lesson learned there, was that you've got to work at it or else it just falls apart.
Also, me and Mads didn't really agree on which direction to take, since I wanted to do all this experimental, arty-farty bullshiteeee and he just wanted to do some rockin', straight up swe-death with a healthy dash of D-beat.
However, seeing as I've had more than my fair share of being pretentious and weird-for-the-sake-of-weird, and I've gotten so much more into oldschool death metal, crust punk and that sort of thing, I'm sure we'll see a lot more eye-to-eye if we bring that thing back from the tombs. So that's one option to go for, which I'd be very happy with.
Another idea I'm toying with, is something I've wanted for a while: A bass-less, one-guitar Grindcore/Powerviolence/Thrashcore sort of thing. Kind of like Pig Destroyer trying to play Nasum and Discordance Axis type stuff but still throwing in the odd Nuclear Assault riff. This has the distinct advantage of only having to find a good drummer who can hammer out a mean blastbeat, and some solid, caveman d-beat. Vocals I can do myself, or maybe find a good vocalist.
In both instances, the tired old cliche of "Back to the roots" screams out. That said, I can't run from the fact that it's probably best to just play what comes naturally to me. In Hexis' little universe, I was always a bit of a stranger because I knew $%&# all about that scene. I think I did a decent job, and I'm proud of the songs I wrote, but it still never really was really "me". It was more "me trying to do something that'll finally satisfy that control-freak of a vocalist with an unhealthy Celeste obsession".
Said straight off: Now I just wanna $%&#in' tear shitee up and stick to what works. I'll never be the guy who's gonna re-invent the wheel, so it will be refreshing to not have to try now.
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Too bad man! Perhaps it will turn out better when you have your own band.
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Too bad man! Perhaps it will turn out better when you have your own band.
Well, Madsakre and I have decided to go with the Grindcore thing. Me on Guitar, him on vocals and a crazy little bugger called Niclas on drums. Can't wait to jam!
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I feel your pain.
I got kicked out of Fallen Poets twice last year - the first time the singer begged me to come back, the second time was final and he "unfriended" me on Facebook...
T0$$er.
I'm over it now, but you're right - it does hurt. I brought so much to that band, took the singers pretty decent songs and gave them a real contemporary edge. And the new stuff that we were working on was really good.
But he felt that I was trying to turn the band into a "rock band", whatever that is - ultimately, he didn't like the fact that I had ideas, and didn't just go along with what he wanted. If I had, we'd have just been playing middle of the road lift music.
It hurts. But not that much. And like you, I'm kinda glad it's over.
:)
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Prerecorded vocal and rhythm tracks and some kind of scarecrow type set up on stage are the way forward...
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Another idea I'm toying with, is something I've wanted for a while: A bass-less, one-guitar Grindcore/Powerviolence/Thrashcore sort of thing. Kind of like Pig Destroyer trying to play Nasum and Discordance Axis type stuff but still throwing in the odd Nuclear Assault riff. This has the distinct advantage of only having to find a good drummer who can hammer out a mean blastbeat, and some solid, caveman d-beat. Vocals I can do myself, or maybe find a good vocalist.
YES. Do this!
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Couldn't help myself. Just took a look at "Pig Destroyer's" Myspace page...
There were - I struggle to type this - making some pretty good guitar tones.
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Another idea I'm toying with, is something I've wanted for a while: A bass-less, one-guitar Grindcore/Powerviolence/Thrashcore sort of thing. Kind of like Pig Destroyer trying to play Nasum and Discordance Axis type stuff but still throwing in the odd Nuclear Assault riff. This has the distinct advantage of only having to find a good drummer who can hammer out a mean blastbeat, and some solid, caveman d-beat. Vocals I can do myself, or maybe find a good vocalist.
YES. Do this!
Well, as I said earlier, this is the direction it's going :D
I am so $%&#ing pumped to get started on this it's not even funny!
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If you wrote the riffs you own the copyright, even iff you are bored of the songs the music is still yours.
I would let the singer know you own the rights to the sonds he's touring. Might seem petty but if they got anywhere with the music you should get some $$$
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And just to add, I've never been kicked out a band but I was recently in a band where everybody left until it was just me.
The Drummer brought his mate down to play some guitar and do some vocals
The Bass player hated his style and went in a mood
The singer fell out with the bass player (who was a good player but a grumpy negative git). She was ready to kill him and left
Then the drummer fell out with the bass player for being rude to his mate and the singer and left
Me and the negative grumpy bass player tried to get a new drummer. A guy came down, don't know what happened but didn't hear from the bass player or new drummer again. I think the bass player was fed up and realised the new drummer wasn't good enough.
So after being in a band being the most positive one, trying to get it all to gell and not complaining myself I ended up without a band anyway....
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I doubt that band is ever going to make any sort of cash, to be honest :lol: Bear in mind, this band is a niche thing at best. Blackened Hardcore/Noise/Grind is not going to top the charts anytime soon :P
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Couldn't help myself. Just took a look at "Pig Destroyer's" Myspace page...
There were - I struggle to type this - making some pretty good guitar tones.
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Scott hull mixes shiteloads of guitars on top of each other.. its the best guitar sound imho
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Yeah, the guitar sound on "Terrifyer" is probably the best I've ever heard. It's just so goddamn massive, yet still defined.
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So after being in a band being the most positive one, trying to get it all to gell and not complaining myself I ended up without a band anyway....
i do think you can do /alot/ with electronics these days - and people are tolerant of it in a live situation too.
i'd love to be in a rock band, but stories like these always make me thankful i'm not!
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First track done with the new band :) Heavy as fukk :D
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First track done with the new band :) Heavy as fukk :D
we NEED to hear this :D
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First track done with the new band :) Heavy as fukk :D
we NEED to hear this :D
Deal
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We did a dictaphone recording of the song yesterday, just so we could remember it next time. Seriously, it sounds like Portal and Disgorge raping The Dillinger Escape Plan.