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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 02:52:52 AM

Title: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 02:52:52 AM
Seems like out of all the pickups I have tried I didn't like any of the ceramic ones that includes, the distortion, dimebucker, emg, blackouts the stock pickups in like 4 guitars and i'm wondering why almost no production guitars made for brutal/modern metal ever have alnico?

With the EMG 81 its tight yet thin so when I palm mute it doesn't really have any chunk or low end and I want a pickup that does that with good clarity and will work in a PRS type guitar.

I have made three threads only because I need to choose what pickups to buy within 2 weeks.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 06, 2012, 03:34:37 AM
Nailbomb, Warpig, Rebel Yell
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: sixgunsovertombstone on March 06, 2012, 03:37:59 AM
yea really your only 3 choices are those. The rebel yell is tightest I would say, with the nailbomb not far behind. The nailbomb has a little more low end to it though, it's a little meatier.

The nailbomb is also a little more aggressive sounding than the rebel yell, I would say try out the nailbomb first....
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 04:46:28 AM
I don't think the rebel yell would be metal enough for me, tightness really isn't a problem (if its not tight enough just further increase setting on my TS) and I think it would be to bright, I guess the nailbomb is my only choice then? Many people buy it then say it wasn't what they were looking for, can anyone describe how the pickup sounds? Clarity, output, midrange character etc?
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 06, 2012, 05:02:22 AM
Actually, the Rebel Yell can get quite metal, and allot of metal guys are using them, everything from death metal, to that metal core stuff.  Just saying.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 05:07:33 AM
Yes but its not very high output and my amp doesn't really have that much gain.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: mongey on March 06, 2012, 05:11:43 AM
I don't think the rebel yell would be metal enough for me, tightness really isn't a problem (if its not tight enough just further increase setting on my TS) and I think it would be to bright, I guess the nailbomb is my only choice then? Many people buy it then say it wasn't what they were looking for, can anyone describe how the pickup sounds? Clarity, output, midrange character etc?

I've had a alncico nailbomb set for 8 months or so now and i like it allot  it has great clarity, much more than duncans in other guitar , output is hot ,  not super hot but more than medium hot . and i'd describe the midrange as aggressive for sure .

I am waiting for an alncio warpig for my other guitar so I cant compare it to that yet . come on post man . bring that sucker
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: WhiteRam on March 06, 2012, 05:35:14 AM
Yes but its not very high output and my amp doesn't really have that much gain.

IMO, reading your original post and this ^ you just answered your own quest. Warpig.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 05:48:30 AM
Yes but its not very high output and my amp doesn't really have that much gain.

IMO, reading your original post and this ^ you just answered your own quest. Warpig.
Hmm I don't think so that's more of a doom and morbid angel/autopsy type of sound i'm mostly into different types of prog metal but I do love death metal too.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 06, 2012, 06:21:49 AM
Hmm I don't think so that's more of a doom and morbid angel/autopsy type of sound i'm mostly into different types of prog metal but I do love death metal too.

I have heard the Warpig do Prog as well.  You really can do anything with any pickup if you have the right setting. I think the Nailbomb will do the trick for you, but if you need more gain, Perhaps the Warpig.   You may even would like to look into the Humbucker Size P-90 Stockholm.  You could for sure do prog with that.

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm (https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm)
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: Madsakre on March 06, 2012, 06:37:57 AM
Hmm. How many ceramic bkp's have you tried? I dare you to try out a painkiller!
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 08:42:56 AM
Hmm. How many ceramic bkp's have you tried? I dare you to try out a painkiller!
I haven't tried any bare knuckles =(
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 08:44:54 AM
Hmm I don't think so that's more of a doom and morbid angel/autopsy type of sound i'm mostly into different types of prog metal but I do love death metal too.

I have heard the Warpig do Prog as well.  You really can do anything with any pickup if you have the right setting. I think the Nailbomb will do the trick for you, but if you need more gain, Perhaps the Warpig.   You may even would like to look into the Humbucker Size P-90 Stockholm.  You could for sure do prog with that.

https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm (https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/pickups.php?cat=p90s&sub=humbucker_sized_p90s&pickup=stockholm)
The clip for that pickup sounds amazing! But I doubt it could handle prog death.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: Kiichi on March 06, 2012, 08:50:52 AM
If you have not tried a BKP ceramic yet, you would probably make a grave mistake by counting them out. I too was not a ceramic fan. It worked in my Dimarzio Crunchlab, but sides that they sucked the big time.
Thing is that Tim basecally makes ceramic PUs without the downside of ceramics. Certainly changed my view on them.

Tell us a bit more about what you did not like about ceramics!
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: darkbluemurder on March 06, 2012, 08:54:08 AM
Hmm. How many ceramic bkp's have you tried? I dare you to try out a painkiller!
I haven't tried any bare knuckles =(

In that case I would not be so fast to dismiss the BKP ceramics. I have the Miracle Man and the Cold Sweat and neither of them are harsh and fizzy.

As regards the Rebel Yell: I have a set in a LP Custom, and that guitar does Ozzy and Sykes stuff to a T.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 10:25:11 AM
If you have not tried a BKP ceramic yet, you would probably make a grave mistake by counting them out. I too was not a ceramic fan. It worked in my Dimarzio Crunchlab, but sides that they sucked the big time.
Thing is that Tim basecally makes ceramic PUs without the downside of ceramics. Certainly changed my view on them.

Tell us a bit more about what you did not like about ceramics!
Short answer, they sound thin to me.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: Madsakre on March 06, 2012, 10:48:22 AM
if you think that either a miracle man or a cpig sounds thin, then you must be a bass player :S
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: darkbluemurder on March 06, 2012, 11:11:09 AM
if you think that either a miracle man or a cpig sounds thin, then you must be a bass player :S

Nominee for quote of the year :)

I second that for the Miracle Man - haven't played a C-Pig yet.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 06, 2012, 02:20:27 PM
If you have not tried a BKP ceramic yet, you would probably make a grave mistake by counting them out. I too was not a ceramic fan. It worked in my Dimarzio Crunchlab, but sides that they sucked the big time.
Thing is that Tim basecally makes ceramic PUs without the downside of ceramics. Certainly changed my view on them.

Tell us a bit more about what you did not like about ceramics!
Short answer, they sound thin to me.

I have played the Nailbomb-Ceramic, and I am using a Painkiller Bridge now, I would in no way say that it sounds thin. 
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on March 06, 2012, 04:49:21 PM
I would suggest ceramic warpig, Miracle man, Painkiller (all ceramic but all have way more body & bottom end than the others you named.

Holy Diver might also be a good choice - alnico
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: Alex on March 06, 2012, 05:54:44 PM
Seems like out of all the pickups I have tried I didn't like any of the ceramic ones that includes, the distortion, dimebucker, emg, blackouts the stock pickups in like 4 guitars and i'm wondering why almost no production guitars made for brutal/modern metal ever have alnico?

With the EMG 81 its tight yet thin so when I palm mute it doesn't really have any chunk or low end and I want a pickup that does that with good clarity and will work in a PRS type guitar.

I have made three threads only because I need to choose what pickups to buy within 2 weeks.

I don't know why there are two pages full of discussion here. Get either Alnico Nailbomb or Warpig and be done with it!

EDIT Reading the blahblah from the previous pages, probably a Nailbomb is your cup of tea!
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 06, 2012, 10:31:09 PM
I don't know why there are two pages full of discussion here. Get either Alnico Nailbomb or Warpig and be done with it!

EDIT Reading the blahblah from the previous pages, probably a Nailbomb is your cup of tea!

 :drink:
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 06, 2012, 11:23:16 PM
Nailbomb it is then! When I sell all my guitars and buy a real PRS I will try all of the BKP models I can =P
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 07, 2012, 04:34:06 AM
Okay after trouble trying to order the pickups it seems like the best way to go is the calibrated set, how good are the cleans on the nailbomb and how well does it do for neck leads?
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: mongey on March 07, 2012, 07:19:15 AM
Okay after trouble trying to order the pickups it seems like the best way to go is the calibrated set, how good are the cleans on the nailbomb and how well does it do for neck leads?

I really like the neck clean on the nb set , and neck Clean is super important to me.  I use a clean neck sound as much as a heavy bridge in my band.  I'd say it's actually very similiar to a Duncan 59 neck but less boomy and better clarity.

I do some leads with it and it does well but I'm more a clean neck, bridge for dirty player.
Title: Re: Alnico pickups
Post by: Telerocker on March 07, 2012, 08:35:55 AM
A Cold Sweat-neck is an option too. It's reckoned to be very fluid and smooth with gain.