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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: TheKungFool on March 07, 2012, 07:55:29 PM

Title: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: TheKungFool on March 07, 2012, 07:55:29 PM
I've got an RG870Z and want a new bridge pickup to replace my stock since it kinda sucks.

I've never had a BK before and narrowed my choice and sound down to the C-Bomb, but then I found out about the MBK 2 and then the 3. The C-Bomb honestly fulfils everything I need, except maybe a little more lower mids.

I've haven't found anything useful comparing these three pickups, other than that the MBK 2 does better cleans that the C-Bomb. Does this mean its not as aggressive on a dirty channel?

I think the general consensus is that the MBK 2 is an all-round better pickup, but I really hate that Manson cover!! My look means that much to me!

And I know absolutely nothing about the MBK 3.

Info please. :D
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 07, 2012, 08:00:11 PM
It is rather silly to choose a pickup on the basis of a look rather than sound.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: TheKungFool on March 07, 2012, 08:10:29 PM
It is rather silly to choose a pickup on the basis of a look rather than sound.

I suppose that's one point to the MBK 2 then...
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: DoomBuggi on March 07, 2012, 08:15:37 PM
No, it doesn't point to anything.  Just a statement.  Go with the one you like the most.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: TheKungFool on March 07, 2012, 09:38:13 PM
I've asked Tim and I'll post his response later on.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: TheKungFool on March 07, 2012, 11:36:37 PM
Tim:
"to all intents and purposes the MBK2 is a Nailbomb alnico - the MBK3 is a high gain ceramic so quite a different kettle of fish really, very tight and saturated with bright highs."

By that, I think the MBK3 is what I'm after but I was pretty certain of the ceramic Nailbomb... everyone says its so good. And then there's nothing on the Internet about the MBK3.

I might just have to take the plunge.  :?
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: Madsakre on March 08, 2012, 08:00:22 AM
get the ceramic nailbomb. Period..
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: ericsabbath on March 08, 2012, 01:04:45 PM
the MBK2 is the nailbomb
looking at the specs and description, the MBK3 is supposedly an aftermath variation, or maybe, one was the prototype of the other, as they were both released around the same time
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: ericsabbath on March 08, 2012, 01:06:33 PM
Tim from Mansons on the new set:

"The MBK-3 set isn't based on the Warpig, it's a totally separate animal.
The bridge pickup has 3 ceramic magnets as opposed to Alnico V, giving a
much tighter bass response and plenty of punch. It's not as powerful as
the Warpig. MBK-3 br comes in at 15.13 K ohms, Warpig br 22 k ohms. This
doesn't mean its a weaker pickup though.
The neck pick up has Alnico V magnets and comes in at 11.40 K ohms
This pickup set has outstanding tone, it produces all the power you need
for a big sound, but cleans up beautifully.
Crisp tight bottom end with a big open glassy sound for the cleans.
We are only selling them as sets at this time I'm afraid."
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs MBK 2 vs MBK 3
Post by: TheKungFool on March 08, 2012, 07:02:29 PM
get the ceramic nailbomb. Period..

I think I'll stick with this. The MBKs don't seem to have made a very big reaction across the Internet. Everyone loves the C-Bomb so I think that's the safe option.
Better trust the normal players than Matt Bellamy and Josh Homme!  :lol:

And thanks to Eric for the info.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: TheKungFool on March 09, 2012, 12:38:32 AM
Wondering if anyone can recommend either the CBomb bridge and PK neck or a PK set?
I want the PK neck as I've heard the Nailbomb neck doesn't offer much...
If not, I'll start a new thread.

I've got a basswood RG which I mainly play stuff in Drop C with boosted mids (apparently the C-Bomb lacks detuned mids).
However, I play everything from Slayer, Lamb of God and Bring Me The Horizon to Coldplay, White Stripes and Oasis, and everything in between.

Usually, I play what would be cleans with a distorted metal tone. Basically, I don't need great cleans but still need the versatility mentioned above. I really have no respect for the original genre.  :)

Anyone got any experience with either of these two combinations?
Any advice?

Any and all replies are helpful.
 
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: EffigyForgotten on March 09, 2012, 02:08:16 AM
Wondering if anyone can recommend either the CBomb bridge and PK neck or a PK set?
I want the PK neck as I've heard the Nailbomb neck doesn't offer much...
If not, I'll start a new thread.

I've got a basswood RG which I mainly play stuff in Drop C with boosted mids (apparently the C-Bomb lacks detuned mids).
However, I play everything from Slayer, Lamb of God and Bring Me The Horizon to Coldplay, White Stripes and Oasis, and everything in between.

Usually, I play what would be cleans with a distorted metal tone. Basically, I don't need great cleans but still need the versatility mentioned above. I really have no respect for the original genre.  :)

Anyone got any experience with either of these two combinations?
Any advice?

Any and all replies are helpful.
 
Nailbomb neck doesn't offer much? And what is "detuned mids" ??? You don't tune mid frequencies.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: darkbluemurder on March 09, 2012, 08:33:34 AM
Wondering if anyone can recommend either the CBomb bridge and PK neck or a PK set?

There is a thread on mis-matched pickup combinations, and one user described using the C-Bomb/PK neck combo in his Ibanez (forgot the model number).

Also there should be many members using the PK set - a search should provide many threads on this.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: Madsakre on March 09, 2012, 03:59:02 PM

 
Nailbomb neck doesn't offer much? And what is "detuned mids" ??? You don't tune mid frequencies.
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Maybe lower mids? :P
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: TheKungFool on March 09, 2012, 04:47:29 PM
  [/quote] Nailbomb neck doesn't offer much? And what is "detuned mids" ??? You don't tune mid frequencies.
[/quote]

Yeah, I bacially meant the lower mids. My current stock Ibanezs just go flubbery when it comes to mids in d tuning. Looking for something a bit tighter in that region. I'll search the forums.
Title: Re: C-Bomb vs PK for bridge
Post by: MAJ Meadows SF on March 10, 2012, 03:06:16 PM
Wondering if anyone can recommend either the CBomb bridge and PK neck or a PK set?

There is a thread on mis-matched pickup combinations, and one user described using the C-Bomb/PK neck combo in his Ibanez (forgot the model number).

Also there should be many members using the PK set - a search should provide many threads on this.

Cheers Stephan

I have a C-Bomb bridge and PK neck in my JEM 77FP (It's the floral pattern one with a copy of Vai's parent's living room drapes wrapped around the body ,yes actual cloth, covered in a sealer). Basswood body, maple neck (3 piece), rosewood fret board. Tim and Nolly agreed that would be a good combo, and heck if I could find a better set for that particular guitar! It retained the dark Evo character, but with the added clarity, grind, and voicing of the BKPs. I'm a fan of the compressed ceramic magnet sound, and I was shooting for an aggressive, compressed tone. It defintely can handle extreme death metal, tech metal, and hard rock. It cleans up pretty well, and I definitely can pull off some distinctly 'Vai-like' tones. The set compliments itself well, and is strickingly balanced, articulate, and harmonically rich. Lots of midrange grind with a snarl on top. The neck has a fat, aggressive tone much like EMG necks, but without the souless, processed sound; very loud. There is no need to push the amp's mids or high end with this set, and I roll the presence back slightly depending on how much gain is involved. There is a slight dryness to the overall character of the tone, but thus is such with ceramic pickups, and it's exactly what I wanted so no complaints here.

I have this guitar in D-Standard right now and there is nothing flubby about it. Minor amp tweaking is all that's needed to cover Death, Decrepit Birth, Decapitated, or whatever you fancy.