Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: stewart on March 08, 2012, 06:50:29 PM
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This may be a naive question but I do not have a great deal of knowledge in relation to guitars. I have just bought a prs single cut se and was wanting to fit the bkp peter green pick ups on it. However the pick ups will cost almost exactly what I paid for the guitar. Do other forum users think this will this be a worthwhile use of my money. I could save up and buy a more expensive guitar but really like the prs. It would be sometime before I could buy a more expensive guitar in any event. Any thoughts or advice really appreciated
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That's by no means a bad guitar, and a set of BK's will improve anything that isn't total rubbish.
And you can always transfer the pick-ups to another guitar if you do get something high end.
Btw the PG pick-ups have a pretty unique tone due to them being wound out of phase with one another. If that's the tone that you're after then it's definitely worth it.
but If you want something more conventional I'd look at the Stormy mondays or Mules (or even one of each)
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If you are new to guitar you may have a basic amp. What amp do you have? You may find you get more noticable improvement in sound from a better amp.
Secondly if you are new to guitar you might not know what is the best guitar for you so would be worth sticking with and learning what suits you. The PRS single cut SE is a v good guitar and a v good choice imo.
Comparing the equivalent pickup in the BKP range to the ones in your SE, you would notice an improvement. Comparing the PG Blues to the pickups you have you will notice a massive change just because they are quite different pickups to start with. The PG Blues are low output pickups so will sound quite different. They are very good low output PAF sounding pickups.
A good mid range guitar like an SE + pickup grade can sound very good. Its deminishing returns when your then upgrade the guitar past a certain point in terms of sound. Of course there is aesthetics and prestige and other things which make people want high end guitars but you'll be happy with that combination. What music/artist is it you like?
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I can only second Gizmo here.
To answer your question: midrange guitars often have a decent lutherie and half-decent (et best) pickups / electronic / gear, so if you like the guitar itself (playability, unplugged tone, reactivity, character etc) but find the amplified tone a bit lacking then upgrading the pickups and electronic can really pay off - my experience -, but this imply you have 1/ a decent amp and 2/ enough experience with guitars to know what you like and dislike.
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Agree with all the above
Worth it.
Just keep the old ones so you can put them back in if you sell the guitar.
Bareknuckles have a good resale value as well
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Agree with all the above
Worth it.
Just keep the old ones so you can put them back in if you sell the guitar.
Bareknuckles have a good resale value as well
I agree with all that!
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Agree with all the above
Worth it.
Just keep the old ones so you can put them back in if you sell the guitar.
Bareknuckles have a good resale value as well
I agree with all that!
Me too. The stockpickups in the PRS SE Singlecut are decent, but BKP's are quite a step up. But a good amp is essential to get a good guitarsound. Especially with lower outpickups a nice tubeamp is the icing on the cake. By example: the Mother's Milk in my strat sound ok through my Blues Junior, but amazing through my Orange Rockerverb.
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This may be a naive question but I do not have a great deal of knowledge in relation to guitars. I have just bought a prs single cut se and was wanting to fit the bkp peter green pick ups on it. However the pick ups will cost almost exactly what I paid for the guitar. Do other forum users think this will this be a worthwhile use of my money. I could save up and buy a more expensive guitar but really like the prs. It would be sometime before I could buy a more expensive guitar in any event. Any thoughts or advice really appreciated
order the PG Blues set with 4 conductor wiring
That way you can choose whether to have the two pickups in phase or not- depending which way you wire them
You could have a phase reversal on a push pull tone pot - or maybe use that for coil tapping instead
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Go for it!
The almost comically stringent PRS quality control luckily carries over to the SE range as well, so with a good setup job and some bkp's you'll have a guitar that can outperform pretty much anything, methinks.
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with a good setup job and some bkp's you'll have a guitar that can outperform pretty much anything, methinks.
Not quite, but I see what you're saying ;)
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The PRS SEs I have seen were more than just decent guitars. You could do much worse than those. If you like the guitar and feel comfortable playing it then go for it. Just make sure that you know what you want and then ask Tim what is the best fit for that.
Cheers Stephan
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with a good setup job and some bkp's you'll have a guitar that can outperform pretty much anything, methinks.
Not quite, but I see what you're saying ;)
Well, at least in that price range in any case :p
I can sort of imagine they won't have much on the Private Stock models.
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with a good setup job and some bkp's you'll have a guitar that can outperform pretty much anything, methinks.
Not quite, but I see what you're saying ;)
Well, at least in that price range in any case :p
I can sort of imagine they won't have much on the Private Stock models.
You mean Private Suck?
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I have a PRS SE Custom 24 which i upgraded to a CBomb set + new pots +caps and a PRS SE Tremonti which has a CS set +new pots + caps - if you wanna stay with these gtrs you probably would be looking to upgrade tuners/nut further down the line. But for their price there are very few guitars better than the PRS SE line-so go for it! :-)
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anything to improve the awful SE range is worth a try but if I were you save up for another guitar. My experience with SE was bad, noisy pickups which fed back like crazy, cheap fragile neck and headstock, useless tuners, noisy cheap pots, werid scale length, bad low quality paintjob and finish which declared itself after minimal use, and God awful fixed bridge one is unable to intonate. Good luck.
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anything to improve the awful SE range is worth a try but if I were you save up for another guitar. My experience with SE was bad, noisy pickups which fed back like crazy, cheap fragile neck and headstock, useless tuners, noisy cheap pots, werid scale length, bad low quality paintjob and finish which declared itself after minimal use, and God awful fixed bridge one is unable to intonate. Good luck.
But apart from that, did you like it?
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anything to improve the awful SE range is worth a try but if I were you save up for another guitar. My experience with SE was bad, noisy pickups which fed back like crazy, cheap fragile neck and headstock, useless tuners, noisy cheap pots, werid scale length, bad low quality paintjob and finish which declared itself after minimal use, and God awful fixed bridge one is unable to intonate. Good luck.
But apart from that, did you like it?
Well, if there was ever any sort of doubt if this was a primarily English forum, it's gone now.
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My PRS SE Soapbar (yup it had BKP91s), was proabably my favourite sounding guitar I've ever owned. Shame I could never get comfortable with it :(
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anything to improve the awful SE range is worth a try but if I were you save up for another guitar. My experience with SE was bad, noisy pickups which fed back like crazy, cheap fragile neck and headstock, useless tuners, noisy cheap pots, werid scale length, bad low quality paintjob and finish which declared itself after minimal use, and God awful fixed bridge one is unable to intonate. Good luck.
But apart from that, did you like it?
Well, if there was ever any sort of doubt if this was a primarily English forum, it's gone now.
Indeed :lol:
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I had a SE custom 22
it was fine, except for the fake maple top (fotoflame over mahogany back without any maple veneer)
they're built exactly like schecters in the same factory
not a fan of that bridge, but never had a problem with it in both SE and original PRS guitars
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they're built exactly like schecters in the same factory
I didn't know that, thanks! :)
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anything to improve the awful SE range is worth a try but if I were you save up for another guitar. My experience with SE was bad, noisy pickups which fed back like crazy, cheap fragile neck and headstock, useless tuners, noisy cheap pots, werid scale length, bad low quality paintjob and finish which declared itself after minimal use, and God awful fixed bridge one is unable to intonate. Good luck.
Aint nothing awful about this one I just got staying stock ..........sounds great as it is
(http://i326.photobucket.com/albums/k402/keith-h-08/DSC00332.jpg)
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PG Blues set is awesome. I've got them in a Les Paul and they made the guitar so much better sounding. One thing I would say about them though is that for the middle out of phase position to be most effective, IMHO you need a guitar with two volume controls that you can use as a sort of blend pot when out of phase. With one vol pot you will always have both p/us the same vol, and they will always be completely out of phase whereas I find for the best tones you keep on p/u at max vol and back the other off a little. Others may disagree, but thats how I use them