Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Norm Fireland on April 07, 2012, 03:48:56 PM
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Hi Everyone,
I am looking for some help to decide on which amp I should buy.... I have a budget of £2k (but may be able to stretch to about £2300, but I may get the silent treatment from my better half!) which needs to cover amp head and cab. I play mostly classic rock and Doom (not sludgy Doom) and my axe is a Gibson Les Paul. I tune all strings down a full step. Being based in Belfast, there is a limited number of amps I can try, as most guitar shops only stock a limited choice.
So far i have had/tried the following, which haven't done it for me:
- Blackstar Series One (too out and out metal)
- Mesa Dual Rec (too American sounding)
- Orange Rockerverb 50 (not sure it's got enough low end focus with only being 50 watts)
I am really only after an amp that has one great rock sound, which needs to be a british voicing. I don't need reverb, effects loops, scooped mids etc. etc.... but it would be great if the amp had the ability to be biased by myself. On my most wanted list are the following, but i have never been able to try them:
- Egnater Tourmaster (possibly over complicated with 4 channels)
- Rockerverb 100 (with DIVO fitted)
- Marshall YJM100
I would be very grateful for any advice on the above, or any other amps... The sound i have in my head is Zakk era Ozzy, but to be honest i think £1250 is too expensive for a JCM 800 reissue and I am not keen on buying a second hand amp.
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how about a jcm 800?
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Would one of the Splawn amps work for you? http://www.splawnguitars.com/amps08.htm
Tone World in Manchester stock them - http://www.toneworld.co.uk/amplifiers-c11/splawn-m37
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I also second the JCM 800 2203. If you are in the UK, they are affordable, they sound awesome, and can do doom & rock with no problem.
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I'm going with a Laney recommendation. Never should have sold my GH50L..... :(
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I think the low end of the Rockerverb is a to loose for doom. The Thunderverb might perform this style better.
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How about a Jcm 800?
again
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1+ for Splawn...You won´t be disapointed...QR is pure Marshall and 3 gears allow you go from plexi to super hot rod JCM 800...Nitro is darker (with KT88 even more) and better for heavier stuff..It´s Marshallish as well but with influence of Diezel or Bogner...Superb build quality...
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How about this Cornford ?
http://www.andertons.co.uk/guitar-amp-heads/pid9838/cid689/cornford-rk100-richie-kotzen-signature-head.asp
Seems to meet your description.
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Bogner? Uberschall/XTC, a good used one?
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Marsham JVM? Absolute Versatility!
And as Madsakre said, get a JCM800. They're only a couple hundred above the £500 mark, and put it this way, if you get another brand of amp, your not going to get the Marshall 800 reissue sound anyways. At least buying a stock JCM800 will get you a lot closer.
How about having an amp custom made? There's plenty of good builders, and Toe-Knee on this forum has built some pretty nice Soldano Slos.
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Marsham JVM? Absolute Versatility!
And as Madsakre said, get a JCM800. They're only a couple hundred above the £500 mark, and put it this way, if you get another brand of amp, your not going to get the Marshall 800 reissue sound anyways. At least buying a stock JCM800 will get you a lot closer.
How about having an amp custom made? There's plenty of good builders, and Toe-Knee on this forum has built some pretty nice Soldano Slos.
Wow thanks for the kind words.
I agree with what has been said so far. If you want the 800 type tones your best bet would be some variation on the marshall voicing or a used 800.
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Marsham JVM? Absolute Versatility!
And as Madsakre said, get a JCM800. They're only a couple hundred above the £500 mark, and put it this way, if you get another brand of amp, your not going to get the Marshall 800 reissue sound anyways. At least buying a stock JCM800 will get you a lot closer.
How about having an amp custom made? There's plenty of good builders, and Toe-Knee on this forum has built some pretty nice Soldano Slos.
Wow thanks for the kind words.
I agree with what has been said so far. If you want the 800 type tones your best bet would be some variation on the marshall voicing or a used 800.
No problem. Still need to add you on msn to discuss mine for the future. Just not got round to installing the older version yet. This new version on Windows 7 with Windows Mail is absolutely cr@p lol
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Haha i dont mind it so much.
just shoot me a PM or email whenever if its easier.
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I'll be getting MSN. Just when i can be bothered downloading it haha.
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What about martamp mjw or HTH built one
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Guys, thanks for all the suggestions... I really like the look of the splawn amps. Does anyone have any feelings on Egnater amps?
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Guys, thanks for all the suggestions... I really like the look of the splawn amps. Does anyone have any feelings on Egnater amps?
I own an Egnater MOD 50 amp and I really like it a lot. I have also played an Egnater rebel 20 and it sounded really good as well. Have a look at Egnater's Tweaker 88 or Renegade (Tour Master as well as you have mentioned earlier). I think these amps can deliver the goods for you.
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at the risk of spamming, my mate has a Diezel Einstein he's selling for £1250 - thats a LOT of amp for the money, sounds really, really nice.
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What about martamp mjw or HTH built one
thats another £5 I owe you, ha ha
this is my gigging amp, will get you into Zack-land...
http://youtu.be/1e-vNNMyWMU
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Have heard many a good thing about Splawn amps. I personally love my Mesa Boogie Stiletto, and it definitely gets real heavy. If you could fix everything wrong with a JCM or Plexi (not saying there is though) it would be the Stiletto. Alot of people are getting into the Royal Atlantic as well.
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Egnaters don't do it for me, thy sound quite cheap to my ears.
Would you consider a marshall TSL or DSL?
Soundwise a DSL is the Thunder and the TSL the lightning.
Both really high gain, but 2-3 channels with different voicings, they do everything you have described in your first post here.
Also, you can change the power amp tubes in those to change the voicing even more.
They are also cheap, I've seen a dsl with matching cab here in edinburgh for 600... used of course.
So you could actually buy 3 amps with cabs...
I'd also take an other look at the orage amps, mick thompson uses them, and he sounds quite heavy to me.
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What about martamp mjw or HTH built one
thats another £5 I owe you, ha ha.
this is my gigging amp, will get you into Zack-land...
http://youtu.be/1e-vNNMyWMU
(yes long overdue these £5 ers), but point being they can build it to your spec and requirements, prob cheaper than your budget
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What about martamp mjw or HTH built one
thats another £5 I owe you, ha ha.
this is my gigging amp, will get you into Zack-land...
http://youtu.be/1e-vNNMyWMU
(yes long overdue these £5 ers), but point being they can build it to your spec and requirements, prob cheaper than your budget
I'd make something that will nail Zack Wydle tones well within the £2300 budget, you'll have the thick end of a grand left over from that budget.
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A 2203KK would be great. Or what about a Mesa ElectraDyne? Just got one myself and it's like an 800 with some bells and whistles, much more low end if needed and a bit more bloom to the tone (so it nicely flips over to harmonic feedback).
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Yeah, if one doesn't think Marshall's have enough of what one likes, Mesa's are a great choice in that regard.
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I can only recommend HTH. Nice guy who takes pride in his work and the 5w fender type I got from him is just bloody amazing. Best cleans of any amp I ever had the pleasure of trying, hands down. So clear, defined and full of mojo. Quality, handmade and custom stuff all around at a price where you normally would probably get machine made chinese stuff.
Once you go custom you probably never go back^^
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I can only recommend HTH. Nice guy who takes pride in his work and the 5w fender type I got from him is just bloody amazing. Best cleans of any amp I ever had the pleasure of trying, hands down. So clear, defined and full of mojo. Quality, handmade and custom stuff all around at a price where you normally would probably get machine made chinese stuff.
Once you go custom you probably never go back^^
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