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Title: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Acolmiztli on April 09, 2012, 10:19:16 AM
Hey guys,

I was using a matched set of A-Nailbombs for a good while. But the low-end started to bother me; as it was pretty full on, and hence full chords weren't very clear, and I felt like a change because of this.

So I popped them out and sold them, whilst also getting a Seymour Duncan Hot-rodded set (JB+SH2) and whilst they're good, and have a lot of clarity, they do seem massively more microphonic than my old NB's, and I'm not sure they're actually aggressive enough for me!! So I'm thinking I may just go back to BKP.

So looking for a recommendation for a dark sounding Les Paul. I don't really want to go back to Nailbombs. I'm looking for that Nailbomb characteristic, the chunk in the low-mids and the crunchy high-mids. But I don't want the woofy low end, which is what I had before.

For my clean sounds, I like them to be pretty crystaline and I don't really like them to break up too much.

This is my band: www.tacomanarrowsbridgedisaster.bandcamp.com

Tonal references: Tool, ISIS, Red Sparrowes, Godspeed You! Black Emperor, Sonic Youth, Chevelle.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Telerocker on April 09, 2012, 10:51:24 AM
Have a look at Cold Sweats, maybe a Rebel Yell too.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: ericsabbath on April 09, 2012, 11:03:30 AM
yeah, cold sweats
not as much low mid heavy, but plenty of low end punch and a brighter top with crunchy upper mids
but for full clarity, maybe you want to step "down" to riff raffs
they have a lot in common with the nailbombs voicing, but are much clearer, brighter, more open and also more versatile
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Slartibartfarst42 on April 09, 2012, 11:29:54 AM
Cold Sweats would work really well in a dark Les Paul and how about Black Dogs? They should do everything you're after.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Kiichi on April 09, 2012, 12:42:26 PM
Arenīt Rebell Yells said to  be somewhat of underwound nailbombs? They certainly are brighter, with a tight punchy, but not woofy bottom and agressive and present higher mids. Most "rocking" PUs I know.
They are said to sit best in Les Pauls of the dark variety.

CS of course a great option too.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: ericsabbath on April 09, 2012, 02:13:13 PM
in my experience, black dogs are a lot darker than nailbombs
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Alex on April 09, 2012, 05:10:45 PM
Yeah, Black Dogs aren't an option unless you are a die hard Bonamassa fan and want that dark and fat single note sound.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on April 09, 2012, 05:27:09 PM
Yeah, apparently Steve Stevens was supposed to have the Nailbombs as his sig pup, but wanted them a bit more under wound. I love my RY's both bridge and neck, and with the neck I wanted the same sounds as you. I can easily play heavier Tool stuff and more, cleans up nicely a la Salival's Pushite. I definitely vote for the Rebel Yells. If you have any questions about them, ask away!
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: lamp on April 09, 2012, 08:16:39 PM
I have had Nailbombs and RYs and it sounds to me like the RYs might be just what you are looking for.  Same sort of ballpark feel.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: monkey8911 on April 10, 2012, 01:21:51 PM
Hi Acolmiztli,

Iīve had the very same problem, I loved the A-bomb, but it got muddy sometimes in my les paul.
Iīve changed to the RY, and I can ensure you, they are very similar to the A-bomb just without the muddiness.
Similar mids, more highs, and a better defined, not muddy bottom.
I love the clean sound now, and its just balls-out rock when you drive it hard. does any kind of metal extremely well, too!!!

Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: darkbluemurder on April 10, 2012, 02:14:23 PM
Rebel Yell set. You won't miss the Duncans then.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Acolmiztli on April 30, 2012, 01:16:02 PM
Cheers dudes. I may try the RY's at some point. I'm getting on okay with the Duncan's although they're definitely a bit more squealy than I'd like!!
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: DoomBuggi on April 30, 2012, 02:56:43 PM
Rebel Yell is a very diverse pickup.  It has an A5 magnet, so it is warm, and can do rock music easily, yet it is tight enough to do extreme metal even at low tunings. 

 You most likely will not be disappointed.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on April 30, 2012, 07:34:27 PM
I think we have a winner...
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Acolmiztli on June 13, 2012, 12:44:09 PM
For anyone curious, I just put in my order for a calibrated gold covered RY set. To replace my JB+SH2, which I am just not really getting on with.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on June 13, 2012, 04:14:59 PM
Great choice my friend! You won't be disappointed. Give us a NPD when you get it!
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: darrenw5094 on June 14, 2012, 01:28:46 AM
For anyone curious, I just put in my order for a calibrated gold covered RY set. To replace my JB+SH2, which I am just not really getting on with.

Love to hear about the change, as i have a LP with the same Seymours and am hoping to replace them with Rebel Yell's too.  :lol:
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Acolmiztli on June 16, 2012, 11:02:49 PM
Well, what I can say is... the RY's definitely feel close to the Nailbombs in terms of the raw tone.

I've only played it through Amplitube 3 at a lowish volume at the moment, being as it is 11pm !! But I definitely notice a big difference to the Seymour Duncans, also it may be my imagination, but I found it much easier to get the respect volume of each pickup close to one another - more so than the Seymours. I don't know what that could be, but it's something I noticed straight away.

I'll report back more about the tone, but yeah... initially? Very close to the Nailbombs.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on June 17, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
Very true, like I said earlier in the thread Steve's sig pickup was supposed to be a NB, but he wanted it underwound. The way I look at it is, the NB as many say here is perfect for 90's stuff, and RY is the one for 80's. At least between these two pickups. Glad you like them, I love mine.
Title: Re: Which pickups for a dark sounding Les Paul?
Post by: Acolmiztli on June 23, 2012, 03:55:42 PM
Used the pickups in anger Thursday night.

MENTAL tone! The bridge pickup is perfect - pretty much none of the negative qualities I was experiencing with the Nailbomb or the SD JB. The neck pickup needs playing around with a little, it is quite bassy.. think I just need to adjust the height of the pole pieces for the lower strings.

But yeah - really lush and full tone. Tbh, the name of the pickup almost put me off. Rebel Yell just makes me think of Billy Idol for some reason!! Glad you guys recommended them though, they are wicked cool!