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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: asianaxeman on April 15, 2012, 04:11:41 PM

Title: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: asianaxeman on April 15, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
Hey guys, anyone had experience with getting a good sound with delay in front of a cranked tube amp like a jcm800? if so please let me know what you recommend, analog, digital or tape etc

heard thus far that the mad professor deep blue delay is supposed to work well in front of a distorted amp because of some 'low filtering' mod. Not sure about the wampler faux tape echo, but it sure sounds amazing!
Title: Re: best delay in front of a flithy marshall?
Post by: James C on April 15, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
Try to track down some of the clips that hunter did of the Providence delay he had, i think that was in front of a dirty amp and iirc it sounded amazing!
Title: Re: best delay in front of a flithy marshall?
Post by: Twinfan on April 15, 2012, 05:30:06 PM
Hunter uses delay in the loop...
Title: Re: best delay in front of a flithy marshall?
Post by: James C on April 15, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
Hunter uses delay in the loop...

 :oops: My bad
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: tekbow on April 15, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
ah the old delay the distortion or distort the delay question.. Personally, purely IMO, with high gain modern amps (the 800 being the grandaddy) i just don't think you'll get the results you're looking for. Yes years ago they stuck delays in the front end, but they often had a fuzz type pedal for their dirt in front of the delay.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: Kiichi on April 15, 2012, 09:47:53 PM
If you got 400 quid just get a Strymon Timeline delay. I believe that thing will do anything delay at any places (I currently use it in front of the amp though).
Beyond bloody insane I tell you!
Itīs more than one delay...it is 12 delays plus things like a low fi noise machine (great for floyds wish you were here intro) if you want. Studio quality stuff too!

Plus it is inspiration in a box.

Can honestly not recommend it enough.

Very expensive, but if you are a delay guy it is worth every penny and more.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: Telerocker on April 15, 2012, 11:28:51 PM
I use an 1981 Ibanez delay in front and that works quite well.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: hunter on April 15, 2012, 11:34:58 PM
This one's in front of a dirty Cornford.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7wVB5__89M

I think most delays can get good results, but you have to keep the mix and repeats under control. I'd prefer one with an analog mixer, like the providence or T-Rex Replica.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on April 16, 2012, 03:16:49 PM
I love my MXR Carbon Copy, does a great job.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: Attica! on April 16, 2012, 04:05:25 PM
I always thought a delay was for the loop. Surely, a delay in front of the amp with overdrive would give it a very weird tone - kind of like a noise gate with the Decay on full? Of course I could be wrong, just wondered lol :P
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: Telerocker on April 16, 2012, 11:03:44 PM
A friend adjusted my old Ibanez for that. It's no longer stereo (wet.dry), just good old plain mono.
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: BigB on April 17, 2012, 12:05:45 PM
I always thought a delay was for the loop.

That's the theory, yes. Or even better, leave it to the mixer board.

Surely, a delay in front of the amp with overdrive would give it a very weird tone

It won't obviously yield the same result as the other way round, but depending on the exact setup and amp, you can got some nice things too.

FWIW,  I currently use a "dirt boost" OD => delay setup in front of my 6V6S-modded HRDx (drive channel with low/mid gain settings - say about 3.5 / 12 - and power amp starting to breakup),  so it's kind of a "distort the delayed distorted signal" thing. Works better for me than having the delay in the loop (specially with the very crude HRDx loop), the delayed signal blends better with the direct one and there are some very interesting "strange harmonics" thingies happening. 
Title: Re: best delay in front of a filthy marshall?
Post by: shaman on April 17, 2012, 06:29:10 PM
lots of our fave recordings probably had an echoplex involved....or memory man
think analog
I have a Timeline(not true analog,but impressive to me...)-it sounds awesome in front of my Bray  plexi style 50 watt-although it has many other applications that work better in the loop
-I am about to get the El Capistan-a faithful echoplex reprod. tone
the old eplexes did something magical to the tone,acc. to many owners(esp.the ep-3..many people chasing the "brown sound" swear by them)
-check out the Peter Thorn demo on youtube