Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: KevinMarchesini on May 08, 2012, 05:07:40 AM
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The guitars where possibly these pu's would being installed are Ibanez.
1.- Mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, bolt on.
2.- Mahogany body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, neck trough.
3.- Basswood body, maple neck, rosewood fingerboard, bolt on.
I'm looking for high output, punch, gutural-like, with the EQ like the Dimarzio Super 3 (5 treble, 8 mid, 6,5), not to bassy and with rounded (non harsh) treble.
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I'm looking for high output, punch, gutural-like, with the EQ like the Dimarzio Super 3 (5 treble, 8 mid, 6,5), not to bassy and with rounded (non harsh) treble.
Check out the Holydiver. It would not have as much output as the Super 3 but fit the tonal description.
Cheers Stephan
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And what about the Crawler? I would like to see a comparison between the Crawler and Holy Diver.
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And what about the Crawler? I would like to see a comparison between the Crawler and Holy Diver.
A crawler would be much too dark for those woods.
I'd also go for the holy diver.
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HD for me
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And what about the Crawler? I would like to see a comparison between the Crawler and Holy Diver.
The Crawler is quite mellow on the bassside. The HD sounds more modern and tighter. HD gets my vote.
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I want to equip a gibson les paul replica (Hondo II). Which pickup would suit best this guitar? I think Warpig would be too much bass, dark or muddy.
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Well it matters what you want it to do, but THE LP pickup is the Rebel Yell.
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Holydiver in the Ibanez guitars but I'm not sure I'd bother on a Hondo II.
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Well it matters what you want it to do, but THE LP pickup is the Rebel Yell.
Don't be sure about that. Most BKPs work extremely well in LPs and TBH if you want "the LP pickup" you should get The Mule.
It all depends on what you want to play. My Holy Diver sounds absolutely amazing in my LP, as does my Emerald and as do Mules and Riff Raffs and I'm sure that the Rebel Yell sounds absolutely amazing too.
Saying that, I think that either the Holy Divers or the Rebel Yells will fit TS best. As the others said, I think that in this case, the Holy Diver just edges it.
The RY and the HD are made for pretty much the same types of music. At that point it all depends on the characteristics that you want your pickups to have. They'll play exactly the same range of music in the same guitar equally as well.
Holy Diver -
Fluid, smooth, yet aggressive.
Thick and great cleans and coil-split sounds.
Balanced EQ with a slight mid boost but a nice tight and responsive bass and smooth yet very evident highs.
Lots of "Oopmh/Punch".
Rebel Yell -
Slightly less fluid and a bit more aggressive and bitey.
Also quite thick but not as thick. Very good cleans too, i haven't heard them coil tapped.
A bit brighter than the Holy Diver but not as much as brought to believe. Certainly not harsh as long as you get the pickup height and amp setting right.
Similarly punchy.
A bit tighter than the HD but the HD can easily match that with the use of a TubeScreamer. THe HD is still relatively tight.
They are both great at classic rock, hard rock, 80s metal (both are especially good at this), progressive rock and modern metal (high gain amp and tubescreamer needed for this no matter what pickups you have, Lol).
TS just need to choose what characteristics he wants.
Just like most others here though, I'll recommend him the Holy Diver in this case.
Edit: I got confused. If TS is already getting the Holy Diver for his Ibanez then I WOULD get the RY for the LP for added versatility.
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Thanks itamar101.
I play mostly metal and I'm looking for that sound you described very well, the "Oopmh" that gutural-like sound. I want to have noticeable punch and output, a very fat full sound with predominant mid frequencies, tight bass and rounded highs. I also like to use lower tuning like D standard or drop C, sometimes lower than that.
What I'm describing better? The Warpig or the HD?
How would sound the Warpig on a Ibanez 550 (basswood body, maple neck and fretboard)? I think it would be right cause for me basswood is a bit flat sound, I mean it reflects very well the characteristics of the pickup.
What would be the difference between the Warpig with Alnico V and the Ceramic magnet?
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the alnico nailbomb is a bit hotter and punchier than the holy diver
it feels slightly hotter than the alnico warpig as well, cause it's more focused sounding instead of smooth and compressed
the mids aren't bumpy like the holy diver, though
it's still a pretty throaty pickup
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Thanks for the extra info but that doesn't answer my questions. :lol:
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In your first post in this thread you describe the Diver.
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I know and that question was answered. Now I wanna know the others. :D :D
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Well if you're referring to the Hondo II, I maintain you shouldn't bother, though I admit I may be biased. A Hondo II was my first ever guitar. It was a natural wood finish and cost me about £60 brand new. To this day I won't buy a natural wood finish guitar and as soon as I could afford it, I upgraded to an Ibanez Rocket Roll II (Flying V). Like all guitars, if you throw enough time, effort and money at it, the instrument can be improved but on a guitar that is so cheap, I can't see the point in fitting a set of pickups that would be worth more than the whole guitar. To my mind, you'd be far better simply upgrading the guitar. Once you've bought a couple of Bare Knuckle pickups, maybe a couple of pots and had it all installed, you're talking at least £250 but I bought my PRS SE Custom 24 for just £100 more than that and even with stock pups, it's vastly superior to a Hondo II. I'd much rather have my PRS stock than a Hondo II with Bare Knuckles in it. BKP are great, but they're not a magic wand. I honestly don't mean to be harsh here but I equally don't want you wasting your money. If you're determined to put new pups in it, get some second hand Seymour Duncans or DiMarzios then at least you've only wasted half as much money but still improved the tone. If you're really determined to throw that much money at it and you want a hot pickup, try a set of Cold Sweats if you want a more classic voicing and Nailbombs if you want something more modern and aggressive.
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Thanks Slartibartfarst42. But i wasn't talking about that question and I haven't bought that guitar, I was wondering if I had bought it which pickpus wuild suit it (or just a regular epi lp or gibson or just another guitar with the same wood). I was talking about this
I play mostly metal and I'm looking for that sound you described very well, the "Oopmh" that gutural-like sound. I want to have noticeable punch and output, a very fat full sound with predominant mid frequencies, tight bass and rounded highs. I also like to use lower tuning like D standard or drop C, sometimes lower than that. What I'm describing better? The Warpig or the HD? How would sound the Warpig on a Ibanez 550 (basswood body, maple neck and fretboard)? I think it would be right cause for me basswood is a bit flat sound, I mean it reflects very well the characteristics of the pickup. What would be the difference between the Warpig with Alnico V and the Ceramic magnet?
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Without a doubt, a full, fat sound with plenty mids is the Holydiver. Mine is in a maple neck-thru and I'm about to put one in a mahogany guitar too as I love it so much so I have no doubt it will work well in basswood, which I always think of as quite a neutral wood. For a more aggressive sound I would normally have thought about an Alnico Nailbomb but I'm not convinced it would suit basswood as it really is an aggressive pickup. I always think an A-Bomb would work better in mahogany. I toyed with getting a Warpig as I wanted to keep the best aspects of the Holydiver but give it a much bigger sound. Both Warpigs will have a significant bass response but the alnico version will have more rounded highs and be more versatile while the ceramic version will be more aggressive and have a tighter bass.