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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: dropD on May 16, 2012, 06:07:37 PM

Title: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 16, 2012, 06:07:37 PM
I bought a used Tele pick guard and it had a chrome humbucker installed in the neck position,on the back was a tag with capital letters BKHA-F/C and engraved on the chrome cover in the upper left corner is a S.  I have pictures i can post but if someone can identify it without me posting them could be quicker.My initial question was if someone could post pictures of an old potted SM with chrome cover.Thanks dropD   
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: Ian Price on May 16, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
I reckon it might be quicker to identify it if you put a pic up.  :D
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 16, 2012, 09:01:04 PM
I am posting some of the pictures of what i believe is a Stormy Monday BK pu.But i need help identifying it.
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Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 16, 2012, 11:50:41 PM
THAT IS NOT A BARE KNUCKLE PICKUP
I have seen something similar on a cheap Ibanez S series a few years ago, but not even sure if that is what it is

It is likely to be a generic far eastern made pickup
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 16, 2012, 11:56:39 PM
....and the guys on the Seymour Duncan forum pretty much said so on the thread you started there.

Giveaways are the brass baseplate, coloured lead coming from it - the fact that BKPs have never (much to my frustration) had identifying labels and all that nasty gloopy wax/resin on the back

the feet have been repaired as well - someone has soldered nuts to the bottom of the fet where the hole has become stripped.

the bottom of a BKP looks like this on older ones where the logo was etched in, but the newer stamped plates look pretty similar.
If there is any wax visible it is a thin almost transparent layer
(https://bareknucklepickups.co.uk/main/images/fillers/humbuckers.jpg)
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 03:50:26 AM
Then the answer is BKHA must stand for ? Anybody wanna' guess cause at least one answer here is its not a Bare Knuckles and he even knew i went to the Seymour Duncan forum where i first ask the question what kind it could be and one dude did reply it might be a BK....i am thinking because the label had those initials BK on it? So far maybe an Cort...or...BK....or....Ibanez......
Thanks for both replies on this BK forum  8) 
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: Alex on May 17, 2012, 03:55:38 PM
Ouch, that looks horrible. Could be some far-eastern cheap pickup or something someone waxpotted at home. Also the cloth wire looks weird.

Got any details about the pickguard? More pics of it maybe? How about the other pickup, don't most Tele's have two pickups?
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 09:26:06 PM
:shock:ed at how the welcome of my only post about a pickup i can't identify is being unwelcomed here.I will just read from the sidelines before asking another question,because my 46 years of never being an accomplished musician has all those years showed me that there is always something to learn by being quiet.Love Joy and Peace Y     
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: itamar101 on May 17, 2012, 09:51:42 PM
:shock:ed at how the welcome of my only post about a pickup i can't identify is being unwelcomed here.I will just read from the sidelines before asking another question,because my 46 years of never being an accomplished musician has all those years showed me that there is always something to learn by being quiet.Love Joy and Peace Y     

No one said anything offensive or unwelcoming at all... Everyones just trying to help.
Lets recap what has been said before you get all butthurt about nothing:

1 - You are asked to put up a picture.
2 - An official BKP dealer confirms that it is not a BK pickup, says that it's probably a cheap made in china pickup.
3 - You are told that the guys on the seymour duncan website gave you correct information and you are given tips on how to identify BKPs.
4 - Alex gives his opinion that the pickup is ugly and looks a bit "out of place" with that cloth wire.
Asks for more information in order to give you a better idea of what the pickup actually is.
5 - You get all offended for no reason and talk about how shocked you are that people can offend you easily ON THE INTERNET (even though no one said anything offensive).

Ok, so Alex is still trying to help and if you want more help i recommend reading his post again and seeing if you can upload pics of the whole pickguard and the bridge pickup.

Oh, also, welcome to the forums :)
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: Miracle Man on May 17, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
It seems to me he just really wants it to be a BKP and is having a hard time accepting it's not  :?  I know it would be really cool if it were a stormy monday, but dude, now you're mad at people that were there to answer your questions just because they told you what you don't want to hear - even though it's the truth.
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 10:17:58 PM
Y people,good god if that is all it takes to start a cyber space war then world war III is soon to come....ouch
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 10:39:45 PM
To answer the pickguard ? it didn't have a bridge pu in it.... it was mint green (sarcasm intended) came off a Telecaster and a MIM real Fender at that (sarcasm intended) That seems to be the intent of some of the answers i read on this forum (not my answers) um no not mine.How about another sarcastic reply. But underneath all that goop of wax i will get my answer.Y to all
p.s. esp
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 10:42:28 PM
One more thing if you know how to place a bridge pu in a Telecaster pickguard i want to see one?
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: Ian Price on May 17, 2012, 10:47:32 PM
hmmm (sarcasm intended)
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: itamar101 on May 17, 2012, 10:49:01 PM
To answer the pickguard ? it didn't have a bridge pu in it.... it was mint green (sarcasm intended) came off a Telecaster and a MIM real Fender at that (sarcasm intended) That seems to be the intent of some of the answers i read on this forum (not my answers) um no not mine.How about another sarcastic reply. But underneath all that goop of wax i will get my answer.Y to all
p.s. esp

Sorry but it took me ages to understand a single word of that post and you do seem to be acting like a very ungrateful prick. Who here is being sarcastic? You and you alone. We are trying to help. I hate it when people come onto forums expecting all the help in the world but get angry when people try to help them and are simply ungrateful.

I find it very hard to believe that you have been playing for 46+ years because that would make you 55+ years old now and, to be honest, someone of that age should be mature enough to behave properly and educated enough to use proper grammar when everyone else is doing so.

Please explain yourself with correct grammar so that we can understand you because at the moment, whether it's a misunderstanding or you are actually behaving stupidly, I don't think that anyone really wants to help you right now.
This is one of the most civilised and helpful forums that I've come across and the people here are genuinely trying to help so stop behaving like you deserve this help and taking it all for granted.
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: Ian Price on May 17, 2012, 10:56:54 PM
Well, much better put than my last response. We are a helpful bunch and for the vast majority of threads/thread responses here you will see respectful replies/comments and a good sense of community.

The OP should really understand that and that we are always likely to help answer questions unless you start leaving tw@tish comments and generally moan when there really is nothing to moan about.
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: dropD on May 17, 2012, 11:33:28 PM
Like i said once i received my answer from Ian and  FELINEGUITARS that it is not a BK. Thanks Ian Thanks Feline.Anyone need a generic pu? Yes i have been around 56 years and will abide to yea replies! No more sarcasm and i will punctuate where needed as if it matters in a world that uses text for talk, cyber space to chat here and elsewhere, and to the correct way to spell civilized is not civilised.I am on here to get answers and i got mine already so the right thing to do is delete this asap.aka FLATTOP
Title: Re: Images or pictures of old Stormy Monday potted pu's
Post by: FELINEGUITARS on May 18, 2012, 12:00:16 AM
The label on the rear of the pickup gave it's DC resistance value of 7.64k ohms which is a classic PAF type wind.

It is likely to be wound with an AWG42 wire - though it is more likely to have a solderable "polysol" insulation rather than a plain enamel or Formvar insulated magnet wire for the windings.

Couldn't say what the magnet would be - at a guess I'd wager alnico 5 as a default choice

I'd say that the pickup wouldn't be worth much as such although it might have a pleasing sound and work well against a tele bridge pickup.