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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Philly Q on May 19, 2012, 02:23:52 AM

Title: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 19, 2012, 02:23:52 AM
Those who've been around the forum a while and have, on occasion, had nothing better to do than read my inane ramblings may remember me wittering on about my first proper guitar, a 1980 Hamer Special which I foolishly mutilated with a Kahler tremolo system...

Well, a couple of weeks ago, I was on eBay and found this....

It's a 1982 Hamer Special, missing the pickups and with a few non-original parts - the knobs, pots and strap buttons.  But crucially, it still has the original "sustain block" bridge.

It just so happens, in my spares box I still have:  the original DiMarzio pickups, mounting rings and knobs from my Special, a set of Hamer electronics from my '83 Vector (sold long ago), even the strap buttons and truss tod cover screw.  :D

I couldn't resist, it was like it was just waiting for me.

So here it is!  Taking it out of the box was a strange experience - a "new" guitar but it feels so familiar.  That Special was my only guitar for about 6 years, and I took it apart so many times, changing pickups and parts... this one is the exact same colour, the mahogany in the cavities looks the same... it's weird, like going back in time.  :?

There are a few slight differences - my old one doesn't have the checkerboard pattern on the headstock, and I think the '80 model lacks the very slight curve in the cutaway the '82 has, which does help top-fret access just a little.

I don't really think of 1982 as "vintage", but this does feel quite vintage - there's lots of crazing in the finish and a pretty large amount of natural relicing.  The timber all looks high quality and it seems pretty lightweight.

Looking forward to getting this "time machine" back in working order!  :D

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/1.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/2.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/4-1.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/6.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/5.jpg)(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/8-1.jpg)
 
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: lulusg on May 19, 2012, 02:36:13 AM
Really nice...really nice..!!

Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: JacksonRR on May 19, 2012, 02:56:05 AM
That's really awesome, Philly. There's been a few I wish I could unsell. Have fun with that one! (and finish it)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Mr. Air on May 19, 2012, 06:50:54 AM
Congrats on the NGD and stroll down memory lane. The guitar looks really cool. I like the LP-style double cutaway.
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Andrew W on May 19, 2012, 07:35:50 AM
I'm really pleased for you. I remember you mentioning the Hamer on a few occasions with a wistful air so it's great that you've managed to find the missing pieces to rebuild the one that got away. You do actually have to get the parts out and rebuild it now, you do know that right?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 19, 2012, 09:18:58 AM
You do actually have to get the parts out and rebuild it now, you do know that right?

Yeah, that is the tricky part.....  :| :wink:

I am in the midst of a general tidy up and clear out at the moment.  There are guitar parts scattered all over the place in dusty old cardboard boxes and jiffy bags (if only I had a loft!), but I've bought a couple of proper "organiser" boxes to sort them into once and for all. 

At some point I will, inevitably, stumble on the old Hamer parts then it's all systems go (probably take at least six months though, based on my usual rate of progress)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: gwEm on May 19, 2012, 09:59:14 AM
Congrats! Very cool score  :)

I would say early 80s is vintage territory these days, and it does have that look.

A fine project to leave underneath your bed for a few years unfinished!  :wink:
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: 38thBeatle on May 19, 2012, 02:00:16 PM
That looks great Philly and has the proper patina too.
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: dave_mc on May 19, 2012, 02:04:31 PM
very nice :)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: mecca777 on May 19, 2012, 02:07:44 PM
That looks absolutely fantastic. I bet it's going to be a monster once it's restored to fighting fitness.

Also, looking at the top picture there I've just this second realised why Hamer called their hardtail the "sustain block" bridge. How thick is that baseplate?! I've never seen one from that angle before.
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on May 19, 2012, 02:32:20 PM
So cool, the top and color on it are realllly nice!
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Afghan Dave on May 19, 2012, 04:01:54 PM

A fine project to leave underneath your bed for a few years unfinished!  :wink:

The Mayan's only ended their calendar at 2012 in the vain hope of motivating Philly Q... It won't work.  :?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Telerocker on May 19, 2012, 11:07:45 PM
Damned, Philly, I would have like that one: naturally reliced, nice top, ready to put some BKP's in. They are great value for money. What pickups you gonna serve this beauty?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 19, 2012, 11:34:21 PM

A fine project to leave underneath your bed for a few years unfinished!  :wink:

The Mayan's only ended their calendar at 2012 in the vain hope of motivating Philly Q... It won't work.  :?

Wasn't there something in the news the other day saying they'd found a Mayan calendar which didn't end in 2012?  I've got plenty of time!

(No room under the bed anyway, the other Hamer's still there!)


Damned, Philly, I would have like that one: naturally reliced, nice top, ready to put some BKP's in. They are great value for money. What pickups you gonna serve this beauty?

Well it's funny, some old Hamers go quite cheap but recently someone was selling a Sunburst, which is basically the same guitar with a bound body, and it went for about 3 times the price of this one.

I think to start with I'll try the original DiMarzios - cream at the bridge, zebra at the neck, wired out of phase.  Then it's as near to "stock" as possible.

But as I recall, they didn't sound great - especially the bridge model - so I may get some aged BKPs in the same colours.   The maple "top" is real flame maple but it's only a very thin veneer, so it's basically an all-mahogany guitar.  I think I'd go with Riff Raffs.... or maybe it's finally time to get a set of Mules.
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 19, 2012, 11:46:08 PM
Also, looking at the top picture there I've just this second realised why Hamer called their hardtail the "sustain block" bridge. How thick is that baseplate?! I've never seen one from that angle before.

It's about 1/4" thick, so the strings sit at much the same angle as they would with a tune-o-matic.

It's a strange little bridge though - the string spread of the through-body holes is actually wider than the spread across the saddles, which makes no sense, why design it like that?  :?   My '80 had the same baseplate, but with wider saddles - too wide for the bridge, so they "fanned out" and left the high E too close to the side of the neck.  That was no good, so the '82/'83 models have narrower saddles, but therefore very narrow string spacing.  At some point (late '80s?) they stopped using those bridges and switched to more generic hardware (I believe Hamer were the first company to sell a guitar with a factory-fitted Floyd Rose, but I may have that wrong)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Telerocker on May 19, 2012, 11:58:22 PM
Zebra RiffRaffs will look and sound nice. Just think over if you're not gonna sell the guitar after installing them. If it's not a keeper I'd stick to Dimarzio's for now.
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 12:15:25 AM
Nah, it'll be a keeper! 

This is like going back in time to January 1982, when 17-year-old Philly Q sent a cheque for £250 to some small music shop in Yorkshire (no internet or even phone banking then!) to buy that original Hamer.  It's pure nostalgia, but no way am I selling this.

Now if only I could get my black Vector back somehow....!
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: AndyR on May 20, 2012, 09:23:14 AM
I often wondered what you were talking about with the "old Hamer I sold" tales... (not being that familiar with them)

... I can see it now :D

Nice one. I know exactly what you mean now

Find those bits, get it done, post some pics (and then put it under the bed :lol: :wink:)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 10:26:41 AM
I often wondered what you were talking about with the "old Hamer I sold" tales... (not being that familiar with them)

Just to clarify (for anyone who gives a monkey's!  :lol: ) about my old Hamers, I still have my original Special - it is, literally, under the bed.

The one I sold - so very foolishly - was the black Vector, which was a wonderful guitar, I can still remember how good it sounded (before I put EMGs on it...)

There have been several other Hamers over the years, but these were the ones I had back in the '80s.

Sorry the picture's so murky:

(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/hkjhjkh.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 01:02:15 PM
OK then.....


...... Let's get ready to rumble!   :twisted:



(http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p216/phillyq/Hamer%20Special/IMGP4471.jpg)
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: WezV on May 20, 2012, 01:18:12 PM
eek - router plus kahler!   please say its just the parts from the old one in those boxes
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 01:29:48 PM
 :lol:

The Kahler box just has some random spare parts in it.  I do have some actual Kahlers - somewhere - but couldn't be bothered to dig them out.

The router box... has my router in it.  But that's the closest it'll be getting to this guitar.  :lol:



Haven't located the old Hamer parts yet, my flat is a total mess.  I need to sort out a few other things first before getting to this.  I wonder if I should put a set of strings on it in the meantime, just to keep the neck under the right tension?  :?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Ian Price on May 20, 2012, 01:31:37 PM
I do have some actual Kahlers - somewhere - but couldn't be bothered to dig them out.

Buried in the garden perhaps?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 01:35:05 PM
I do have some actual Kahlers - somewhere - but couldn't be bothered to dig them out.

Buried in the garden perhaps?

Ian, Ian.... I never set foot in my garden!  Do you take me for some kind of outdoorsman?
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Lew on May 20, 2012, 03:21:32 PM
stonking!
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Ian Price on May 20, 2012, 03:25:07 PM
I do have some actual Kahlers - somewhere - but couldn't be bothered to dig them out.

Buried in the garden perhaps?

Ian, Ian.... I never set foot in my garden!  Do you take me for some kind of outdoorsman?

I wouldn't be surprised if you had loads of lawnmowers in various states of completeness hanging around in your shed.  :lol:
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Afghan Dave on May 20, 2012, 08:01:49 PM

I wonder if I should put a set of strings on it in the meantime, just to keep the neck under the right tension?  :?


Wooo there cowboy!! We wouldn't want you to do anything hasty.... remember "act in haste, repent at leasure"  PDT_038 PDT_008
Title: Re: NGD.... a trip down Memory Lane....
Post by: Philly Q on May 20, 2012, 10:42:27 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if you had loads of lawnmowers in various states of completeness hanging around in your shed.  :lol:

Well, I could never decide if I was a Qualcast man or a Flymo man....


Wooo there cowboy!! We wouldn't want you to do anything hasty.... remember "act in haste, repent at leasure"  PDT_038 PDT_008

Believe it or not, I did something today.  I put up some shelves!

(It did take me a full week to fit the wall brackets, saw the planks, straighten the ends with my router.... and about six trips to Homebase to get different types and sizes of cavity wall fixings....  :| )