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Title: Adam Ant
Post by: Muttley on July 15, 2012, 07:56:13 PM
Saw Adam Ant last night and he was on fine form.

It was a great gig and he played tons of stuff (he was onstage for about an hour and a half). He's got a great band at the moment, with two drummers (of course). One male, one female, and the whole band ripped it up and Adam was in fine voice. Hell, he did Beat My Guest as the third song of the set; when I used to do that in my old punk band, we had to play it as the last song in the set because my voice would be totally $%&#ed after all that yodelling at the end. ;)

These are the songs that I can remember he played (not in any order):

Beat My Guest
Ant Music
Desperate But Not Serious
Cleopatra
Lady
Red Scab
Physical (You're So)
Christian D'or
Fall-In
Zerox
Car Trouble
Kick
Dog Eat Dog
Stand and Deliver
Kings of the Wild Frontier
Goody Two Shows
Vive Le Rock
Wonderful
Ant Invasion
Never Trust a Man (With Egg on His Face)
Catholic Day
Deutscher Girls

He also played a new song that'll be on his new album due out later this year, didn't catch the title of that but it sounded great.

Only bummer of the night was the venue, which was a theatre type venue with all seating. Really want to see him in a proper club setting now. Luckily he's touring again in November (I guess to coincide with the new album release).
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Ian Price on July 15, 2012, 08:03:51 PM
Were you at The Anvil? I know he played there recently - not too sure when though.

I've been to a few shows there (Bootleg Beatles and The Australian Pink Floyd show). I've always found the venue a little sterile, probably due to it being all seating. A little too civilised!
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Muttley on July 15, 2012, 08:05:58 PM
Were you at The Anvil? I know he played there recently - not too sure when though.

I've been to a few shows there (Bootleg Beatles and The Australian Pink Floyd show). I've always found the venue a little sterile, probably due to it being all seating. A little too civilised!

Yeah, it was the Anvil, and it was exactly as you describe it.  Sterile and Civilised.  I prefer gigs at sweaty pits with a sticky floor from all the spilt beer (the Marquee was my ideal venue for years ;))
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 15, 2012, 08:06:45 PM
Good to know he is out there gigging. I used to love his music. Years ago, Dirk wears white socks was a great album.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 15, 2012, 08:16:20 PM
he seems like a really nice guy in the interviews I've read with him, not particularly listened to his stuff though. maybe i should.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: stonevibe on July 15, 2012, 08:28:18 PM
He used to rehearse out our place in Denmark Street, he was a little odd back then. Plus Marco was a regular where I worked during the day and he was well strange...

I loved their first few albums though and am glad he still plays live.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Afghan Dave on July 15, 2012, 08:31:00 PM
he seems like a really nice guy in the interviews I've read with him, not particularly listened to his stuff though. maybe i should.

When I was 10 years old he told me to F**k Off.. I still like him though.. :?
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Johnny Mac on July 15, 2012, 09:46:34 PM
he seems like a really nice guy in the interviews I've read with him, not particularly listened to his stuff though. maybe i should.

When I was 10 years old he told me to F**k Off.. I still like him though.. :?

 :lol: So would I! ;)
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Afghan Dave on July 15, 2012, 10:38:11 PM
he seems like a really nice guy in the interviews I've read with him, not particularly listened to his stuff though. maybe i should.

When I was 10 years old he told me to F**k Off.. I still like him though.. :?

 :lol: So would I! ;)


 PDT_003
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2012, 08:29:23 AM
Nice to hear he's still alive and kicking - I understand he's been through some weird/bad sh1t.

Interesting you guys' discussion of venues. I've always preferred seated venues, even when I was younger. That's both as a punter and as a performer. And I don't want the bar in the same room neither!! I always much preferred playing theatre-type places, I could get much more of the buzz I was trying to achieve (both for me and the audience) there... Failing that, a club atmosphere with tables and chairs and "dance-floor" area in front of the stage.

I've never understood why people want to stand up to listen to music... dance, yeah, but listening and watching... nope, don't get it...

However, I long ago learnt that I seem to be in the minority on this :lol:
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 16, 2012, 10:04:16 AM
Nice to hear he's still alive and kicking - I understand he's been through some weird/bad sh1t.

Interesting you guys' discussion of venues. I've always preferred seated venues, even when I was younger. That's both as a punter and as a performer. And I don't want the bar in the same room neither!! I always much preferred playing theatre-type places, I could get much more of the buzz I was trying to achieve (both for me and the audience) there... Failing that, a club atmosphere with tables and chairs and "dance-floor" area in front of the stage.

I've never understood why people want to stand up to listen to music... dance, yeah, but listening and watching... nope, don't get it...

However, I long ago learnt that I seem to be in the minority on this :lol:

it surely depends on the music.. generally I think standing is better for headbanging and dancing reasons, which is generally the type of music I go to see live.

i do go to jazz gigs occasionally (more often then I usually admit), and even there sometimes its nice to dance a bit depending on if its fun or chin strokery jazz.

singer-songwriter-acoustic folk, would surely be best sitting.

i don't mind a bar in the room when I play live, but my heart sinks if the room is full of tables ;)

as for adam ant, i think alot of artists are a bit more weird/arseholey/shy in their younger period. perhaps he was indeed a bit of a c0ck back then. the interviews I've read with him are much more recent.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Philly Q on July 16, 2012, 02:16:11 PM
Interesting you guys' discussion of venues. I've always preferred seated venues, even when I was younger.

Me too, for a variety of reasons. 

Never been into dancing, headbanging, stage diving, crowd surfing, moshing or whatever.  I never drink at gigs - so I don't care where the bar is either - which perhaps means I don't get into a "letting my hair down" mood.....

Also being 5'6" I often find myself unable to see anything at standing venues (not a problem gwEm has!).  Worst case was a Queensryche gig which I experienced in audio only, I never got even the slightest glimpse of the band on stage.

I used to go to the front and cling on to the edge of the stage, but that all went out of the window when crowds started getting rowdier.

So yeah, seating's fine for me.  I used to like the Astoria where you could go up in the balcony before everyone else arrived, claim a seat at the front and have a great view.

Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Fourth Feline on July 16, 2012, 03:04:17 PM
Nice to hear he's still alive and kicking - I understand he's been through some weird/bad sh1t.

Interesting you guys' discussion of venues. I've always preferred seated venues, even when I was younger. That's both as a punter and as a performer. And I don't want the bar in the same room neither!! I always much preferred playing theatre-type places, I could get much more of the buzz I was trying to achieve (both for me and the audience) there... Failing that, a club atmosphere with tables and chairs and "dance-floor" area in front of the stage.

I've never understood why people want to stand up to listen to music... dance, yeah, but listening and watching... nope, don't get it...

However, I long ago learnt that I seem to be in the minority on this :lol:

Like Philly and yourself, I have always prefered the seated venues,  on both sides of the game.

When I was younger, we had the Fforde Green pub / venue at Leeds - where you could take your girlfirend, chat to equally enthusiastic folks in the intermissions - and it generally attracted the genuine music lovers and fans. To sit on a table near the stage - and be relaxed enough for your senses / perceptions to go entirely into enjoying the whole show was brilliant. Racing Cars did a brilliant, and  tremendously emotive  gig there , and to hear Morty's voice before it even hit the microphone - and see him really work and sweat - meant the whistful songs, just squeezed you out like a wet sponge - and the guitar pyrotechnics all the more electrifying, because you heard each pedal 'click' and saw craftsmen at work.   To see the late great Alex Harvey going through his unforgettable theatrics to ( what felt like ) an invited /  private audience was electrifying.   No pushing, no aggro to get seated, just 100 % enjoyment.   On a larger scale, it would have been a shame , after getting a ticket / chance to see some of the great Bands of the 70s, to then not actually be able to see the show(s)  in lurid detail.

When actually gigging myself,  it was a gratifying experience to see / feel how certain songs / ideas, worked or did not - and given that the audience could relax with a drink, then seeing what made them find some floor to dance, what made them sing along - and ( if you loved the song / music more than your own ego ) just  share the whole thing ; if you had an audience of 400,  then it felt like the  band itself contained  407 people.

As for Adam Ant, I am certainly happy for him , and uplifted to think that he has managed to rise above his profound mental health issues - and once again 'Do the business' .   8)

Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2012, 03:29:01 PM
Yeah, after the inital "let's get down the front so I can touch his geetar and he can sweat on us" craziness of my youth, I've always wanted to be able to see the band, and concentrate on the band, in relative comfort.

Relactive comfort, for me, is not and never has been standing up for an hour and half on a sticky floor in the dark getting either a) jostled if I got too close to the stage, or b) bumped into by some drunken beer waiving nurk if I got too far back (and therefore too near the bar!). And the constant stream of idiots pushing past you and through you to get nearer or further back is SUCH a pain. And you just get comfy so you can just about see between heads without blocking the view of the less-vertically-endowed person behind you, and without nestling too close to the person next to you, and then some foul smelling tall prat pushes through you all and stops  5 inches right in front of you blocking your entire view with his stinking personage.

Also, I have no intention of dancing or jumping around when I can see the artiste, playing his/her stuff, right in front of me. I would much rather dance to the records. When the dude's doing his sh1t in front of me, I've kind of paid to watch every moment I can see. And dancing seems a waste of that opportunity... (but that's just me personally as a punter).

It does kind of feed into how I felt as a performer I spose - I didn't complain if they got up and danced near the end, but I was very happy having a room full of eyes watching my every move. I was kind of performing to be watched and listened to, not to be danced to etc.

So, yeah, I see what you (gwem) mean by "depends on the music". But... for me it depends more on whether the act is interesting to watch. If it's a got a guitarist or anything approaching a decent front-person then I want to watch and listen. Eg I've seen Motorhead I dunno, 4 or 5 times since 1980 or so. It was only the very last time a couple of years back that I didn't have seat. It was OK, nice to see the old boy etc, and they were superb... but I'd had a much better time in the previous gigs, sat down watching them, and then maybe jumping around on my seat for the last few songs...

EDIT: Fourth Feline posted his while I was doing mine. Yep, your description of gigging is my memory of it too. You could see what effect you were having on them emotionally. It was nice if you had a bit at the end when folks got up and boogied or whatever, you'd shared in the emotional experience and now you were sharing something physical. My experience of playing standing venues is that people concentrating on the music look awfully bored and not at all relaxed - not very good feedback for me as a performer. Put the same bunch in seats and they looked so much more into it.

Actually, early on, we were really p1ssed off that we couldn't get anyone to dance. One rehearsal the band asked me to stop doing what I did so much. I said "why?". It was because they'd spoken to some of the audience and found out why they weren't dancing. I said "and why is it?". "Because they say they'd rather watch you, and if they dance they think might miss something..." .... and that's how I go to see gigs myself.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 16, 2012, 03:57:54 PM
I guess if you're sat down its easier to tuck your zimmer frames out the way.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Fourth Feline on July 16, 2012, 04:09:03 PM
I guess if you're sat down its easier to tuck your zimmer frames out the way.

 :lol:

You know us too well...
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 16, 2012, 04:16:02 PM
 :D

shouldn't laugh though. i tried to squeeze into my bullet belt over the weekend, and it somehow its become about 2 inches too small for me.
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: 38thBeatle on July 16, 2012, 08:33:22 PM
I am glad that Mr Ant is back gigging. I am not a fan but it was sad to see him going through his problems a few years back.
As for venues, I too like the genteel predominantly seating only places to enjoy watching a band. I am there to hear the music and see the band and dancing around is not my thing but I realise that some like to jig about and if so, that is fine as long as they don't do it in front of me.
 
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2012, 11:07:44 PM
:lol:

Looks like it's old-git fest in this thread gwem!

I didn't have time earlier to add that my band at the time (in fact, all bands I've been in) completely disagreed with me - they couldn't imagine anything worse than seated theatre-type gigs :lol:
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: AndyR on July 16, 2012, 11:12:49 PM
:D

shouldn't laugh though. i tried to squeeze into my bullet belt over the weekend, and it somehow its become about 2 inches too small for me.

What temperature do you wash it on? (:lol:) I only ask because all my work shirts seem to be, er,  shrinking recently... and I'm fairly certain it's because Mrs R insists on putting them on a high temperature... :roll:
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 16, 2012, 11:37:12 PM
:D

shouldn't laugh though. i tried to squeeze into my bullet belt over the weekend, and it somehow its become about 2 inches too small for me.

What temperature do you wash it on? (:lol:) I only ask because all my work shirts seem to be, er,  shrinking recently... and I'm fairly certain it's because Mrs R insists on putting them on a high temperature... :roll:

 :lol:
Have also noticed I need to rearrange my err.. belly to be able to bend down and do my shoes up. My belly honestly doesn't look that big, but evidently it's creeping up on me. Either that, or Miss gwEm is indeed putting my clothes and too hot a wash.

It's no doubt the later ;)
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Philly Q on July 17, 2012, 08:47:43 AM
:D

shouldn't laugh though. i tried to squeeze into my bullet belt over the weekend, and it somehow its become about 2 inches too small for me.

What temperature do you wash it on? (:lol:) I only ask because all my work shirts seem to be, er,  shrinking recently... and I'm fairly certain it's because Mrs R insists on putting them on a high temperature... :roll:

 :lol:
Have also noticed I need to rearrange my err.. belly to be able to bend down and do my shoes up. My belly honestly doesn't look that big, but evidently it's creeping up on me. Either that, or Miss gwEm is indeed putting my clothes and too hot a wash.

It's no doubt the later ;)


Didn't Metallica have a song about that? 

"Creeping Breadth" or something along those lines....  :?
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: Afghan Dave on July 17, 2012, 10:19:15 AM

Didn't Metallica have a song about that?  

"Creeping Breadth" or something along those lines....  :?

and

"Too Few The Beltholes"
Title: Re: Adam Ant
Post by: gwEm on July 17, 2012, 10:22:19 AM
 :lol: