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Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: sambo on February 16, 2006, 07:55:41 PM

Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 16, 2006, 07:55:41 PM: looking for a distortion pedal to beef my laney lc30 up a bit...

seen the jekyll and hyde and looks pretty kool, lots of controls so i get the idea it could be quite versatile... i think i remember ratrod saying hes got one? anyway, just wondering if anyones had any experience with them and if so what are they like....
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 16, 2006, 10:48:53 PM: I dont have a clue about the J&H, but for a similar price you could go boutique and get a Homebrew electronics Big-D . It is one of the few US made pedals sold at a fair price in the UK
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 16, 2006, 10:49:54 PM: and whats that like lol?
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 04:07:45 AM: When it comes to Joel and his Big D, Ya don't need to ask, just Do It ;)

www.homebrewelectronics.com
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 17, 2006, 08:36:59 AM: BigD (TO had a great review sometime back)

5 modes

1. Tubescreamer
2. Tubescreamer hotrodded
3. Marshall stack type distortion
4. Heavier Marshall stack type distortion
5. Fuzzy distortion

Add to this a Soft/Hard clippin option (10 options so far)

Add to this a footswitchable extra gain stage that fattens the tone significantly (adjustable gain).

Sounds more or less like 20 different settings, all of which are usable and very very good depending on the situation.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 11:01:18 AM: ok thanks guys lol. ill check them out..

other pedal i was considering- toadworks death rattle and maybe their 'enveloope' as well...

and the last couple i was seriosuly considering was the MXR blue box... damn that sounds so cool! and the Homebrew-E. UFO fuzz is cool as well...

what do you think? theres too many pedals!?!?!!?!
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 17, 2006, 11:17:23 AM: Quote from: sambo
ok thanks guys lol. ill check them out..

other pedal i was considering- toadworks death rattle and maybe their 'enveloope' as well...

and the last couple i was seriosuly considering was the MXR blue box... damn that sounds so cool! and the Homebrew-E. UFO fuzz is cool as well...

what do you think? theres too many pedals!?!?!!?!

I had a head-to-head of Death Rattle vs BigD, the BigD was much better to my ears.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 11:25:00 AM: really? dude that helps a lotttt... good thing is i think i can try them both somewhere near me so ill be able to see for myself...

anyone ever had any experience with the HE UFO?
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Elliot on February 17, 2006, 12:35:28 PM: Get the BigD - its by far the best of the lot.

UK distributor:

http://www.audiotoyz.co.uk

Vintage and Rare, Denmark Street have them in London if you want to take the train.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: TwilightOdyssey on February 17, 2006, 12:47:27 PM: Hi Sambo,

I think getting an OD or distortion pedal to beef up your amp is a great idea.
I have the privelege of living very close to one of the premier boutique pedal shops in the world: 30th Street Guitars in NYC.

Here are a couple of pics of what the place looks like:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt6.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt5.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt4.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt3.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt2.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v723/TwilightOdyssey/30thSt1.jpg)

There are so many choices out there when it comes to overdrive and distortion pedals, both solid state and valve.

What kind of sound, specifically, are you looking for?

From my own experience, I think that the Jeckyl and Hyde pedal is a joke, but you may love it. Best thing is to try it out and see.

For versatility, you basically have 3 pedals:
> HBE Big D
> Time Machine
> Roger Mayer Voodoo-1

Personally, I think that the HBE sounds the best of the bunch.

Not to murk up the waters further, but if you already like the sound of your amp, have you considered getting a clean boost or a compressor pedal? These will retain your guitar and amp's tone, but will push the amp into overdrive quicker, as well as giving you more sustain.

I basically use 3 pedals, all from HBE, depending on the situation:
> Big D
> Dos Mos Boost/Buffer
> CPR compressor
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 01:22:53 PM: Sam

Vintage and rare guitars stock Big D for 155 quid

www.vintageandrareguitars.com

They are in Bath and London and ship.

Nick
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 06:28:08 PM: ok thanks for all the info guys.

a boost pedal did cross my mind actually because (as i keep saying) im loving my crate's tone at the moment but its solid state and when i turn up the volume it just becomes a bit weak and kind of 'airy' lol - hard to explain... anyway i was thinking that getting a boost pedal would beef up the tone that i already like so that when i need to turn it up the basic tone is kept but just fattend out and made fuller... (thats the conecpt of a boost pedal right?)...

anyone got any recommendations on boost pedals? the toadworks 'MEAT' looks quite cool but that was basically the only one ive had a proper look at....

seems like the big-d is definately a good option- specifically for my laney which needs some more versatility. for the crate though im starting to think that all i need is a boost.

P.S damn T.O your so lucky living near a shop like that.

oh yer and the kind of sound im looking for: well my band is kind of classic rock verging on slightly heavier stuff (not really metal) so thats the kind of tone im looking for.... the problem is we're not a specific genre so there is no specific sound im going for... hence the reason for needing versatility- basically im looking for an all out 'rock' pedal.

oh yer and 155 quid- corr blimey that would take a while to raise... i know its not THAT steep for a pedal but since ive been browsing sites that use dollars ( :wink: ) it seems so much..
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 17, 2006, 07:27:26 PM: BTW Sambo, i got an LC30II and i am using the BigD, it fits the amp perfectly imho, either as a distortion pedal, or as overdrive pedal.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 07:33:27 PM: ahhh excellent... looks like big d is the way to go for the laney then. now i just want a boost pedal for my crate... OR a fuzz pedal to give it some more versatility...
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:37:35 PM: ahem (clears throat)

Maybe this;
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 07:38:39 PM: isnt that a distortion pedal? what do you know about that there pedal then mr.nickolas...? any good?
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:38:58 PM: or this;
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:39:24 PM: or this;
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:41:32 PM: I know Joel (Mr.HBE) is abit of a pedal genius Sam my friend.

Check this;

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/HomeBrew_Electronics_Arizona/Power_Screamer-1.html

http://www.harmony-central.com/Effects/Data/HomeBrew_Electronics_Arizona/U_F_O_Fuzz-1.html
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 07:41:47 PM: yer! thats the fuzz i like- if you download the audio clip here:

http://www.guitareffectspedals.com/homebrew.html

a little way down- it gives you an idea of the versatility... sounds like you can get a good variation of tones (well a lot of variations of fuzz anyway) from it...
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:43:09 PM: Just VERY impressed with Joel and his pedals. I think the reviews (found anywhere not just H-C) speak volumes for his stuff.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 07:44:02 PM: i see... this is gonna be trickier than i thought...
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 07:50:47 PM: oh dear god....BRAINWAVE- the UFO has an 'octave up' feature right? could i get this joel bloke to mod it slightly to an 'octave down' effect??? that was why i was so keen on the little MXR blue box- its a fuzz which fuzzes your sound TWO octaves down... this mod (if possible) would kill two kick-arse birds with one very cool stone...
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Dakine on February 17, 2006, 07:58:27 PM: Go to his site

www.homebrewelectronics.com

and email him.

I asked him about the Big D awhile back and he replyed on New Years Eve! The guy is Top Rate. And another reason why he is getting my bussiness.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 17, 2006, 08:02:56 PM: will do... :D
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: _tom_ on February 17, 2006, 08:26:56 PM: I want a HBE Big D again now! Just as the gas goes it comes back again :lol:
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: Elliot on February 17, 2006, 10:19:32 PM: The HBE power screamer is an awesone pedal as a boost - as I am not a metal head I need less than the Big D and have a Tweed Power Screamer - I've never looked back from the £150 notes I shelled out in Denmark Street.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 18, 2006, 08:53:37 AM: The Big-D is NOT a distortion-only pedal. The settings 1-2 are Overdrive, 3-4 Distortion and 5 fuzzy distortion. So have that in mind ;). It is super versatile imho.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 18, 2006, 04:36:54 PM: haha tom!

so elliot what styles would you say the power screamer can cover?

and math whats the big'd's fuzz/fuzzy distortion setting like?

maybe sound clips anyone??
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 18, 2006, 07:44:11 PM: Quote from: sambo
haha tom!

so elliot what styles would you say the power screamer can cover?

and math whats the big'd's fuzz/fuzzy distortion setting like?

maybe sound clips anyone??

I got a clip of ACDC back in black riff with Laney Dry/BigD/BigD 2nd gain stage. Would that help? How do i post a clip? I thought that we could post only clips of BKP pickups.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: willo on February 18, 2006, 08:00:33 PM: Yeah, its better to not use the bandwidth of the site save for BK products, it's only fair :wink:

You can upload files online through yousendit.com or rapidshare.de for example, and post the 'retrieval link' here.
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 18, 2006, 08:14:53 PM: yeah willos right- its only fair :wink: :roll: ...

but math, dude- just send it by e-mail samchadwick_27@hotmail.com ... it would be a great help...
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: math2014 on February 18, 2006, 08:39:08 PM: It is bigger than 1mb hence it wont do hotmail :(. Could do messenger tho
Title: jekyll and hyde pedal..?
Post by: sambo on February 18, 2006, 08:39:51 PM: yer messenger will do

i can go on now if you can ?

or i could send you a g-mail invitation and you could set up a gmail account... i think theres virtually no limits at all on those accounts...