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Forum Ringside => Pickups => Topic started by: kxsxpxn on August 23, 2012, 11:44:21 AM

Title: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 23, 2012, 11:44:21 AM
I don't mind if sound in little compressed, I just want pickup that will sound really fat and organic but that will give me good chord clarity and cut good! I play a lot of chords with tremolo picking technique.

Guitar is Les Paul Custom (with maple top, mahogany body and neck) and full wood, very heavy!

On clips I found on internet, C-Pig seems to be the fattest sounding, but I don't know how good it cuts in mix and live situations, I am also worried if it will have too much bass. Tim recommended me Aftermath, but I am not sure, because it sound a lot thinner on some clips...

Keep in mind that I usually like to make a sound of guitar little scooped...
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: Dr.Pain on August 23, 2012, 12:02:08 PM
A c-pig will have too much bass.  I tried one in a mahogany bodied, maple top, maple neck through 7 string and the bass was enormous.  Great if you want to knock down buildings though.  I didn't ask BKP advice before I got it but Tim also recommended an Aftermath for me to control the bass in that particular guitar.

A c-pig in the right guitar would be mighty as I found it to be clear and lot's of output, just too much bass.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 23, 2012, 01:19:24 PM
Thanks for replay, so I suppose it's not idea to put C-Pig, especially because my guitar have mahogany neck too (and a fat one)...
How Aftermath compares to Miracle Man for application I need it for?
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on August 23, 2012, 01:41:27 PM
Have you considered a Rebel Yell?
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: itamar101 on August 23, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
Have you considered a Rebel Yell?

This. You'll enjoy the rebel yell. Maybe even the holy diver if your guitar isn't too dark. The Holy Diver is very full and thick sounding.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 23, 2012, 03:01:35 PM
I never considered Rebel Yell and Holy Diver because they are Alnico and not considered as hot as pickups I putted in the pool. But I am opened for suggestions, just I would like something with high output.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: darkbluemurder on August 23, 2012, 03:03:34 PM
I don't mind if sound in little compressed, I just want pickup that will sound really fat and organic but that will give me good chord clarity and cut good!

For that tonal description my vote goes to Rebel Yell.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 23, 2012, 03:16:30 PM
So how Rebel Yell sound in comparison with Aftermath or Miracle Man?
And how much output they have?
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on August 23, 2012, 03:16:41 PM
I don't mind if sound in little compressed, I just want pickup that will sound really fat and organic but that will give me good chord clarity and cut good!

For that tonal description my vote goes to Rebel Yell.

Cheers Stephan

+1
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on August 23, 2012, 03:18:31 PM
I think the RY is alot more organic, it definitely has more of the old school kinda feel to it while still having that awesome grit and power. I have no experience with the AM or MM, so I'm going by knowledge and clips.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: Telerocker on August 23, 2012, 06:40:54 PM
I think the RY is alot more organic, it definitely has more of the old school kinda feel to it while still having that awesome grit and power. I have no experience with the AM or MM, so I'm going by knowledge and clips.

+1
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: JonnyScaramanga on August 23, 2012, 10:14:57 PM
Sorry to throw another option out there, but I've seen the Nailbomb described as "organic" more than any other high output pickup. It sprang to mind as soon as I read your post. I have only used one for a few seconds on a friends guitar, but...

I do have a lot of experience of the Rebel Yell, which I've seen described on these boards as similar to an underwound Nailbomb. I also think the Nailbomb has less pronounced mid than the Rebel Yell. I think it could be a good option for you. All the users rave about its versatility. The Rebel Yell is a killer pickup, too.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: TheyCallMeVolume on August 24, 2012, 04:30:44 AM
Sorry to throw another option out there, but I've seen the Nailbomb described as "organic" more than any other high output pickup. It sprang to mind as soon as I read your post. I have only used one for a few seconds on a friends guitar, but...

I do have a lot of experience of the Rebel Yell, which I've seen described on these boards as similar to an underwound Nailbomb. I also think the Nailbomb has less pronounced mid than the Rebel Yell. I think it could be a good option for you. All the users rave about its versatility. The Rebel Yell is a killer pickup, too.

That would work, but I think with an overly heavy guitar which usually means thicker and fuller too, a RY would work better than a NB in my opinion. Cutting through a mix would also point towards the RY in most cases I would think.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: darkbluemurder on August 24, 2012, 10:03:18 AM
So how Rebel Yell sound in comparison with Aftermath or Miracle Man?
And how much output they have?

No experience with the Aftermath so far.

Miracle Man is slightly louder than the RY, with more bass and low mids but less center and high mids. A fine pickup, too, but not as organic as the RY.

Cheers Stephan
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 24, 2012, 11:59:19 AM
Thank you all for your opinions. Can you tell me he difference between Rebel Yell and Holydiver?
Also, how tight is Rebel Yell actually?

I heard some comparison clip of Nailbomb and Aftermath and I must say that I really liked the organic sound of Nailbomb, but in comparison with Aftermath it's just not tight nought for me. So I am interested how Rebel Yell compares with Nailbomb?

Remember that I 90% of time play black metal so I need some tightness for fast tremolo picked riffs. Also, as I said, I don't mind some compression in sound.

And how much output Rebel Yell have? They are not described as too hot on website, more like medium output humbucker... And I couldn't find that much clips of them playing metal...

I am sorry because I ask so many questions, but I really want to get myself a perfect pickup for guitar, because they are expensive and I don't want to change them...
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: Telerocker on August 24, 2012, 12:13:22 PM
RY- sure tight enough for metal, emphasized uppermids, bright topend
Holy Diver - tight enough for metal, emphasized center mids, round topend, great solotones
Nailbomb - alnico is already pretty tight, ceramic version tighter, 90's metal flavour, uppermidspike, but enough centermids (not as much as the HD), topendsizzle you like or you don't. Overall quite agressive.
Title: Re: Les Paul Custom pickup decision
Post by: kxsxpxn on August 24, 2012, 04:46:19 PM
So, for now I think Rebel Yell or Ceramic Nailbomb would be my best choice...

Can somebody tell me if Rebel Yell compress notes in chord like Nailbomb in this clip (beginning from 15th second):
http://soundcloud.com/nolly/nailbomb-vs-aftermath

I really like that sound, but I am little worried because Aftermath sound so good for palm mutes in this clip...