Bare Knuckle Pickups Forum
Forum Ringside => Guitars, Amps and Effects => Topic started by: Twinfan on September 26, 2012, 10:35:40 AM
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...I've got the horn for this:
http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/fender-custom-shop-63-limited-edition-heavy-relic-strat---black+++887
(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/images/custom/guitars/4085-fender-custom-shop-63-limited-edition-heavy-relic-strat---black/4085.JPG)
(http://www.guitars4you.co.uk/images/custom/guitars/4085-fender-custom-shop-63-limited-edition-heavy-relic-strat---black/4085b.JPG)
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Not my kinda thing but i can see why youd ilke it! you gonna go for it? man thats pricey -ouch-
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Nope, I won't buying it, but I'm strangely drawn to it.
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I quite like that but if there's a CS '62 Strat in Olympic White ever I'm probably sunk.
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I like it too, although I'm not so keen on the black humbucker, even though it looks more "customised" than a white/cream one would.
I see the matching-headstock Sonic Blue Strat has sold. That's a bit of a relief....
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That's very Mick Mars. I like it!
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its very nicely done isn't it?
i'm not tempted at all, but nevertheless its cool.
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Don't like relics, don't like black. Shame about the sonic blue...
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I'd like it with a black/white/black pickguard :) Each time I hear Voodoo Child (Slight Return) I think I need a strat because to me, that is the ultimate rock guitar tone. I can just never make it work for me!
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I'd like it with a black/white/black pickguard :) Each time I hear Voodoo Child (Slight Return) I think I need a strat because to me, that is the ultimate rock guitar tone. I can just never make it work for me!
didn't you have a charvel at one point?
i couldn't see the point in strats for years.. now i love the things! for me the big secrets were a coily cable and a treble booster.
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i couldn't see the point in strats for years.. now i love the things! for me the big secrets were a coily cable and a treble booster.
i totally get the treble booster, i found the same thing, the guitar came to life in my hands! apart from the look, what does the coily cable bring to the party? i seem to recall they had higher capacitance which rounded out the high end, but i thought that was only in old cables?
as to the original point of the thread :) i'm really not a fan of reliced guitars. i can appreciate that some of them are very well done, some even look great, but the whole concept seems wrong. it used to annoy me, i think it's actually starting to disgust me! :P
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didn't you have a charvel at one point?
i couldn't see the point in strats for years.. now i love the things! for me the big secrets were a coily cable and a treble booster.
Yeah I had a HSS Charvel Model 1C! Effortless to play but I didn't get on with basswood and it was a bit too "80s hair metal". I also had a really nice parts strat that I wish I never sold. Think it just needed a good setup! I have an old strat body sat around doing nothing, tempted to stick a cheap neck on it and single bridge humbucker or maybe single middle pickup!
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I used to not like strats, too, but in the end wound up playing one on stage :)
Cheers Stephan
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i couldn't see the point in strats for years.. now i love the things! for me the big secrets were a coily cable and a treble booster.
i totally get the treble booster, i found the same thing, the guitar came to life in my hands! apart from the look, what does the coily cable bring to the party? i seem to recall they had higher capacitance which rounded out the high end, but i thought that was only in old cables?
yeah, I'm lucky enough to have got one or two of those old cables and they roll the top end off massively, but in a really nice sounding way.
I also have a modern Vox cable, which is a really good cable by the way, but it doesn't do the same thing - maybe a touch, but it sounds mostly the same as a good straight cable.
Honestly though I think its the components they used in those old cables, rather than just the fact they are old, that make the difference. The parts in the cables I have are really low end - thin cable, and the jacks look budget - the right angled one looks like a joke, and the straight one is just ok. I think you could easily buy a really cheap modern curly cable and get the same effect. Honestly, despite the low quality they sound amazing with a strat or tele. I just put at the front of my effect chain - between the tuner and the next pedal.
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Well... I like strats, but that one does nothing for me :lol:
It looks like it's been messed with too much for my tastes!
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I normally like the more vintage strats i.e. no HBs. I must admit that I like this one a lot though!
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I quite like the relic hotrodded look, but that's gonna always cause some debate wether its too much'or not.
Strats do it for me, but tele's even more. :D
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I used to really dislike strats, but that has changed in the last two years or so. This one looks particularly cool. I like the relicing, I like the white sc's and the black hb - which kinda surprises me as I normaly don't like this sort of miss match, and I like the tortoise pickguard. All in all - very tasty!
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The treble rolloff in the old cable is just the capacitance from the screen to the shield.
If anyone wants to simulate that, it's easy enough to put a bunch of small pF-range caps on a rotary switch and into a stompbox to play round with varying amounts of treble rolloff.
You could name it something daft that alludes to simulating a vintage coiled cable :roll:
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
Even tone knobs do the trick!!!
If you want less treble all you need to do is a bit of EQing! No need to find a sh*tty cable from the 70s. :/
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
Even tone knobs do the trick!!!
If you want less treble all you need to do is a bit of EQing! No need to find a sh*tty cable from the 70s. :/
Its audibly different from rolling back the tone knob. Sure the cable is 'just' doing EQing, but it works really well. Sounds very natural, maybe one could experiment and get the same with discrete components.
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.
Different roads lead to Rome... :)
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I thought treble roll off is what treble & presence knobs were for :P
Well, maybe it's my amp, but I could never find the sweet spot between removing the strat ice pickiness, yet keeping treble presence. The cable just did the trick immediately. I'm not pretending there's some pseudo science behind it, but finally I had that hard rock strat tone I was looking for without any further messing about.
I've got one of those grey curly Radio Shack cables SRV was apparently fond of - bought many years ago because it was cheap, nothing to do with any kind of "tone quest". I really do notice a big effect on the tone.
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I really do notice a big effect on the tone.
I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:
I reckon it's a case of "if it works, it works..." on all this stuff.
I was really interested, though - assuming I've read this right, gWem - that the tall one is not using it as a "guitar lead" as such, but as part of his effects chain on the floor! :lol:
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I really do notice a big effect on the tone.
I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:
I reckon it's a case of "if it works, it works..." on all this stuff.
I was really interested, though - assuming I've read this right, gWem - that the tall one is not using it as a "guitar lead" as such, but as part of his effects chain on the floor! :lol:
I guess I am "the tall one"? Anyway yes, you can see a 70s curly cable on my pedal board at every show where I play a strat. I had no idea this would cause so much controversy!
(because its the wrong colour to use as a guitar lead from the actual guitar :roll:)
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I really do notice a big effect on the tone.
I notice you don't pass any judgement on the positive/negative aspects of this "big effect" for you :lol:
Wasn't intentional! :lol:
Basically it attenuates the treble, like gwEm said - with some guitars it sounds good, others (P-90s, mostly) it doesn't.
It's my "go to" cable because it doesn't take up much space or get tangled, but if I notice a guitar's sounding a bit muffled and it's bothering me, I'll try swapping the cable. :)
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Well... I like strats, but that one does nothing for me :lol:
It looks like it's been messed with too much for my tastes!
I'm with you - I love Strats, but that one is wrong.
Dave - could the attraction be that the guitar has a > 2K price tag..?
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I guess I am "the tall one"? Anyway yes, you can see a 70s curly cable on my pedal board at every show where I play a strat. I had no idea this would cause so much controversy!
(because its the wrong colour to use as a guitar lead from the actual guitar :roll:)
:lol: - yep, you're the "tall one" of my post :D
I don't see this curly lead thing as that controversial myself. (I did laugh out loud when I saw the "because it's the wrong colour" though... :lol:)
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:lol: - yep, you're the "tall one" of my post :D
I don't see this curly lead thing as that controversial myself. (I did laugh out loud when I saw the "because it's the wrong colour" though... :lol:)
:D
I was once told by someone who knows about colours and things to keep to black and white for a cool on stage look. I've stuck to that and worked for me so far. Usually I just that now for the big shows, which don't happen so often.
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As a model this is nice, but the relic'ing I don't like. :x
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As a model this is nice, but the relic'ing I don't like. :x
I think it would be cooler if it was black-over-sunburst.
I really like those "double finished" relics.
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What about the real deal instead?
Original '63 Daphne Blue over Sunburst for 9000€
http://www.hugeracksinc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=85299
(http://www.kitarapaja.com/pics/fstrat63db1_1024x768.JPG)
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That's an expensive CD he's trying to finance! :P
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That's an expensive CD he's trying to finance! :P
relative. it's just one guitar worth :)
9K€ is probably what the Stones' studio costs in a day or two, and I'm sure they take a few months to produce a CD.
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I don't like Strats either but, I just saw Joe Bonamassa Rockpalast 2005, "Blues Deluxe" and for the first time observed a valid reason for the location of the Vol knob... my Strat has a dummy in this position, going to have to wire it back to normal and try this volume swell technique...
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That's an expensive CD he's trying to finance! :P
relative. it's just one guitar worth :)
9K€ is probably what the Stones' studio costs in a day or two, and I'm sure they take a few months to produce a CD.
No, I meant it like he was going to buy, y'know.... a CD. They're usually about £7.99.....
Bad joke, sorry.
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That's an expensive CD he's trying to finance! :P
relative. it's just one guitar worth :)
9K€ is probably what the Stones' studio costs in a day or two, and I'm sure they take a few months to produce a CD.
No, I meant it like he was going to buy, y'know.... a CD. They're usually about £7.99.....
Bad joke, sorry.
Gotta borrow an emoticon for a different forum then:
(http://www.rig-talk.com/forum/images/smilies/icon_datz.gif)