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Title: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: richard on October 17, 2012, 08:09:05 PM
Anyone use these for streaming ? I've had Netflix for a while but decided to give Lovefilm a try tonight. Gave up on Lovefilm because the film I tried to watch was really jerky. Don't have this problem with Netflix.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: AnnunakiMassacr on October 17, 2012, 09:58:32 PM
I just use 1channel.ch :P
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: blue on October 17, 2012, 10:20:45 PM
i use a television.  i have a satellite box and blu-ray player attached.  works great, no buffering or anything! 
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 17, 2012, 10:49:26 PM
Blu-ray all the way.

I've tried both Netflix and lovefilm and found the image quality to be lacking in comparison. Plus I like to physically own things.

I think I am the only one in my group of friends that doesn't digitally buy movies/games/cds
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Ian Price on October 17, 2012, 10:56:02 PM
Blu-ray all the way.

I've tried both Netflix and lovefilm and found the image quality to be lacking in comparison. Plus I like to physically own things.

I think I am the only one in my group of friends that doesn't digitally buy movies/games/cds

I also like to own a physical product. I find it a bit of an empty experience when I buy a download. I've not signed up to lovefilm or netflix but sadly think this is the way things are going.

I do have an Apple TV and was shocked to find that you can 'buy' a newly released film on there for £14.99!!!!!!!! I find that a bit of a shocking price. Maybe that's naive of me but it is only slightly less than you can buy a Blu-Ray for and the same or more than a DVD!
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 17, 2012, 10:59:19 PM
Blu-ray all the way.

I've tried both Netflix and lovefilm and found the image quality to be lacking in comparison. Plus I like to physically own things.

I think I am the only one in my group of friends that doesn't digitally buy movies/games/cds

I also like to own a physical product. I find it a bit of an empty experience when I buy a download. I've not signed up to lovefilm or netflix but sadly think this is the way things are going.

I do have an Apple TV and was shocked to find that you can 'buy' a newly released film on there for £14.99!!!!!!!! I find that a bit of a shocking price. Maybe that's naive of me but it is only slightly less than you can buy a Blu-Ray for and the same or more than a DVD!

This is one of the other things that bugs me about it. You don't get anything physically and it isn't really that much cheaper and in some cases it costs more.

Resident evil 6 on PSN is £49.99 in grangers its £39.99. It's kinda a no brainer even though I still haven't bought it.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Dmoney on October 18, 2012, 12:17:34 AM
I tend to watch uncompressed HD at 1080/50i with Dolby E (usually) containing 5.1 audio running about 1.5Gbps.

Picture quality is alright I guess.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Philly Q on October 18, 2012, 09:55:29 AM
Blu-ray all the way.

I've tried both Netflix and lovefilm and found the image quality to be lacking in comparison. Plus I like to physically own things.

+1

But in fact I haven't actually tried downloads - I lack the technology to do so, apart from anything else.

I do still rent discs from Lovefilm, although I don't have much time to watch them nowadays.

Agreed with Ian's point about downloading being "an empty experience".  I still find CDs a bit disappointing compared with the old days of LPs in gatefold sleeves! (I know I could still buy certain things on vinyl, but I must admit in that instance CDs are more convenient)  :lol:

I suppose we'll have to get used to it, though - I don't think physical media will totally vanish but downloads will become the norm sooner rather than later.  At least I won't have to keep finding space for stuff, I suppose....  :|
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: bucketshred on October 18, 2012, 12:27:35 PM
I buy Blu Ray but I'm a NetFlix user for casual watching or TV series. It has cheaper and better (content, quality and service) than LoveFilm.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 18, 2012, 12:31:44 PM
My internet isn't solid enough for streaming. The joys of the southside of Glasgow. Downloaded torrents don't need to stream, though.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: blue on October 18, 2012, 01:03:35 PM
i know people that watch tv and movies on laptops, tablets and even smartphones!  all with awful picture and appalling sound.  they think it's great.  people value convenience and cheapness over quality, and that's why we're all going to die!
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Ian Price on October 18, 2012, 01:03:50 PM
At least I won't have to keep finding space for stuff, I suppose....  :|

Data storage space perhaps? Maybe a rack of servers (under your bed of course)
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 18, 2012, 02:14:11 PM
i know people that watch tv and movies on laptops, tablets and even smartphones!  all with awful picture and appalling sound.  they think it's great.  people value convenience and cheapness over quality, and that's why we're all going to die!

I quite happily watch films with (relatively) poor picture and sound. Couldn't care less.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Philly Q on October 18, 2012, 02:37:11 PM
i know people that watch tv and movies on laptops, tablets and even smartphones!  all with awful picture and appalling sound.  they think it's great.  people value convenience and cheapness over quality, and that's why we're all going to die!

I can't get my head round the paradox of films being released in higher resolution formats with (theoretically) vastly improved picture quality.... and yet it's apparently supposed to be really desirable to watch them on a poxy little phone.  :?
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Dmoney on October 18, 2012, 02:49:43 PM
I dont think its the watching it on a phone that is desirable as much as the convenience
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 18, 2012, 02:51:45 PM
I've never tried to watch anything on a phone, but it'd certainly be easier to take on the bus than a plasma screen and stack of DVDs.

I don't think anyone prefers to watch films on smaller, poorer screens.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Philly Q on October 18, 2012, 03:01:13 PM
I dont think its the watching it on a phone that is desirable as much as the convenience

I've never tried to watch anything on a phone, but it'd certainly be easier to take on the bus than a plasma screen and stack of DVDs.

I don't think anyone prefers to watch films on smaller, poorer screens.


I never said anyone preferred to watch films on a phone (or tablet or whatever), but the manufacturers definitely try to make it a selling point.

Of course I can see that it's "convenient" if you want to watch a film/TV show whilst travelling, but (me personally, just my opinion, etc etc....) I don't see why people want to watch film/TV in that environment at all, when it's so much better to watch on a bigger screen in a cinema (or your living room, for that matter). 
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Dmoney on October 18, 2012, 03:10:35 PM

Oh yeah. I agree. But then I listen to so much badly recorded stuff. I dunno, with music and films, sometimes I guess the story is more important than the way in which you get to hear it. Sort of reminds me of Fahrenheit 451. haha. Maybe people are just used to having all kinds of text (in a wider sense) to consume at the push of a button. I think it makes things more disposable and It makes me a bit sad to be honest.

I do have Netflix incidentally. I don't own a TV. I do get paid to watch TV though. (pretty much)

Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 18, 2012, 03:19:41 PM
I dont think its the watching it on a phone that is desirable as much as the convenience

I've never tried to watch anything on a phone, but it'd certainly be easier to take on the bus than a plasma screen and stack of DVDs.

I don't think anyone prefers to watch films on smaller, poorer screens.


I never said anyone preferred to watch films on a phone (or tablet or whatever), but the manufacturers definitely try to make it a selling point.

I know. It was more that Blue's post seemed to imply that it was people's chosen medium, rather than just the only option in certain circumstances.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Philly Q on October 18, 2012, 04:35:22 PM
Oh yeah. I agree. But then I listen to so much badly recorded stuff. I dunno, with music and films, sometimes I guess the story is more important than the way in which you get to hear it.

Yeah, that's true - better poor quality than not at all.

With music, I don't have anything even close to "audiophile" quality, most of the time I'm listening through headphones on the PC, to be honest.

With films, I'll do everything I can to get the best possible version, wherever in the world that may be.  But if I really like a film, and it's only available on a cr@ppy non-anamorphic DVD.... then I'll put up with it.  The picture quality will annoy me the first few minutes, then I tune it out.  I draw the line at VHS though.  :P
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: JJretroTONEGOD on October 18, 2012, 05:18:31 PM
I also prefer blue-ray, have seen streaming versions of the same film and they look too compressed/bad quality to my eyes.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: richard on October 18, 2012, 06:13:01 PM
I'm not overly bothered about picture quality but the jerkiness/glitching of Lovefilm was driving me batty.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: blue on October 19, 2012, 01:16:40 PM
I know. It was more that Blue's post seemed to imply that it was people's chosen medium, rather than just the only option in certain circumstances.

that is what i was saying, i know a girl who sits in her room and watches torrents of movies most nights of the week.  she boasts that she's seen all the new films for free!  and my mate watches most of his tv on his samsung galaxy phone, including when he's at home. 

i know it's all personal preference, (leaving aside the illegality of her movie torrents for a moment) but personally i couldn't enjoy watching like that.  i agree with Philly that if something you really want to see or hear is only available in  lower quality, be it mp3 or an old dvd or whatever, then it does fine.  but i prefer to get things in the best quality available to me and my equipment
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Lezard on October 19, 2012, 02:24:57 PM
I'd only torrent dvd rips myself, otherwise I just go to the cinema.
Caught my mum watching an "Old style" pirate dvd last month, complete with audience laughter and people standing up and blocking the screen  :?
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: ToneMonkey on October 19, 2012, 03:25:21 PM
I had Love Film and it went straight through the (Sony) internet telly.

Picture was fine and the sound was fine, but I didn't find the choice of films all that good. I've not been into films for a long time though, so there were probably decent ones that I hadn't heard of. I mainly got it for kids films, but they're choice was fairly bad.

Overall I didn't think it was worth the money for me, but I'm sure some people would use it more. Are they still doing a months free trial?
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 21, 2012, 04:34:55 PM
I know. It was more that Blue's post seemed to imply that it was people's chosen medium, rather than just the only option in certain circumstances.

that is what i was saying, i know a girl who sits in her room and watches torrents of movies most nights of the week.  she boasts that she's seen all the new films for free!  and my mate watches most of his tv on his samsung galaxy phone, including when he's at home. 

And do they do this whilst they have the DVD of the same show/film sitting beside their TV?
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: blue on October 22, 2012, 02:06:20 AM
they've made the choice to watch in this way rather than get a dvd.  it's their choice of course
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 22, 2012, 09:11:23 AM
Right, so it's not necessarily their favourite medium then, it's just the only one that's accessible when they decide they want to watch a particular movie on the spur of the moment and it's the easiest one to afford.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: blue on October 22, 2012, 11:40:19 AM
no, they've decided that that's how they'll watch.  they could buy dvd's, but they'd rather watch like this.  the girl with the laptop in particular insists that anyone buying a dvd is an idiot.  she watches anything she wants for free.  now, she's far from penniless, she is in a well paid job and spends plenty of money elsewhere.

you're right, of course, that many people only want to see the film or programme and don't really think about the quality of picture or sound.  i know i get caught up in properly setting up televisions and amps, while others don't care as long as they can see and hear it.  my issue is that newer ways of receiving content are seemingly of an ever lower quality, and that convenience is now seen to be much more important.  and as long as you have people like this girl who won't pay at all, and will happily settle for poor quality, that's only going to continue.  that's for both movies and music. 
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: nfe on October 22, 2012, 04:37:06 PM
Again, if you decide, say, at half 11 tonight you want to watch Terminator and don't have it on dvd, or if you don't have a tv, the only option is to watch it at a lesser quality (though that said, my computers all have better resolution than any telly I've ever owned).

I don't think it's a problem for either film/tv or music. People will always prefer higher quality, they'll just also often be quite happy to settle for the most accessible, cheapest format.

Frankly, if you can watch something instantly, for free, actually going and buying a dvd, let alone an expensive tv and stereo, is a hassle.
Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Toe-Knee on October 22, 2012, 08:24:07 PM
I tried watching terminator 2 on my galaxy S when I was in hospital last year and I got about 10 minutes in before the screen size + having to hold my phone constantly bugged me enough to just turn it off and try to sleep the day away.

Title: Re: Netflix ? Lovefilm ?
Post by: Sifu Ben on November 23, 2012, 03:59:53 PM
I use both, and I like them. I run them through my Xbox into the TV and I rarely experience buffering times ( and when there is it's usually comparable to Blu-ray load times), although I do have Virgin fibre-optic. On the whole Netflix is better for TV shows and Lovefilm is better for movies. Indeed as well as the smaller selection the picture quality of TV shows on Lovefilm isn't that great. I subscribe to a US proxy server service which allows me to watch the US Netflix content as well, so I a great selection of stuff, and each service costs me the equivalent of 4 Blurays a year (I have DVD/Bluray rental with Lovefilm as well).